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Component Production Begins for 2017 iPhones as New Renders Combine iOS 11 With iPhone 8

EdT said:
If the entire front is really a screen then there are no bezels, only areas intentionally left dark/black, for whatever reasons. And, again if the entire front of the phone is a screen, any representation can be changed by software and may look different on the released phone.
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Talking about the phone's actual border/edges/case/sides
 
Darrensk8 said:
Do we really think the sensors/camera/speaker will be designed to cut into the screen like that?!?/QUOTE]
Until they figure out how to get all that stuff to work from behind glass, yes. The only other option is to extend the bar all the way across (basically a smaller version of the top bezel we have now).

But I think I see the thought process by leaving the bits on the sides of that cutout. By doing that, they can still display things like time, battery status, etc. without having to waste a whole line worth of screen real estate for it. If everything won't fit at once, hopefully we can configure what gets show on the left and right, whatever you consider most important.

What I don't like is it make the screen asymmetrical, which would possibly be annoying when using it in landscape orientation, like for watching movies. I'm assuming they will push the video over to not be blocked by the cutout, that would look horrible if it were over your movies.
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2010mini said:
Why are you a member of an Apple forum then if you think iOS and iPhone looks terrible? Seems illogical to me.
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Because I'm a Mac user, own two AppleTV's, iPad, iPod, three generation iMacs and four generations iPhones. And because I do care.

So whats logic about a forum where all members have the same taste and opinion? Just asking...
 
No way Apple will release a phone with the cut out piece in this render. Looks awful and no way Apple releases such a phone. Use some common sense.
 
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These renderings are lacking the ever-present dock at the bottom, like the iPad Pro.

What, you guys thought they were making it taller for no reason? iPhone Pro baby.
 
Rava said:
It's the slightly larger that's the problem. I don't mind the extra height, but the 4.7 is on the edge of what I can grip one-handed and is still somewhat awkward to use compared to a 4 inch phone. The width is only predicted to be 5 mm bigger on the iphone 8, but I suspect that will be enough to make it too wide to grip in one hand. I'll definitely try in out in store to see how it handles since I may be wrong; I thought the 6 would be too big when it came out, but it ended up being okay. I have really small hands so I imagine the increased dimensions will be fine for most people, but I don't want to give up one-handed use.
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I have very small hands also (I've never owned a pair of gloves that fit), but I've gotten used to the 4.7 iPhones with one hand. It's a little awkward on occasion, but it's usually manageable. That's the exact reason why I've never gotten a Plus model, it's just way too wide for me to handle with one hand. I don't think the 8 will be so bad though.
 
what we will have sooner or later is samsung and apple having exact same phones using same screens.. only thing that will differ is the OS
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carpleror said:
I have very small hands also (I've never owned a pair of gloves that fit), but I've gotten used to the 4.7 iPhones with one hand. It's a little awkward on occasion, but it's usually manageable. That's the exact reason why I've never gotten a Plus model, it's just way too wide for me to handle with one hand. I don't think the 8 will be so bad though.
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well if they come out with a 4.7 oled screen ... i guess the size of the current 4.7 will get smaller?
 
Duane Martin said:
Totally get your point. Apple doesn't actually make freakin' amazing products, it's just that Apple tells people they do and people believe them. I guess that means these people are stupid or weak willed though I am not sure how that argument holds up when you look at the demographic that buy Apple products. What always amazes me is that Apple seems to be (one of?) the only companies that can do this, convince people to buy what are apparently crap products according to the majority of posters on MacRumors, but perhaps that's because they are (fill in the blank)? Maybe Steve Jobs' legendary "Reality Distortion Field" has lived on in the company long after his passing?

There is a "Reality Distortion Field" that exist here on the MacRumors Forum but unfortunately it has turned to the dark side leading to so many hateful posts with no basis in fact or reality, just complaints.
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Never said Apple doesn't make great products, they definitely do. Although they're not as "freakin' amazing" and groundbreaking as many people believe, and they could benefit from a little innovation lately. But you're right, Apple at the moment is riding on the curtails of Steve Jobs but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

I think Apple really survives because of how well all their products work together. Someone like myself who needs the latest and greatest tech isn't as willing to move to an Android device as they are the next mediocre iPhone because it all works together. I have a Mac, AppleTV, AirPods, iPad, and iPhone and they all just work together. Switching disrupts the ecosystem and I think many people aren't willing to do that. Also, I think iPhone has definitely become a status symbol. I know at least where I live, if you don't have an iPhone you're kind of looked at as if you can't afford it (even though Android is just as expensive).
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mscice said:
what we will have sooner or later is samsung and apple having exact same phones using same screens.. only thing that will differ is the OS
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well if they come out with a 4.7 oled screen ... i guess the size of the current 4.7 will get smaller?
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I don't think they would do that. The current rumors are the 4.7 and 5.5 will retain the same form factor as the 7, but the 5.8 OLED will have the reduced bezels which allows for a larger screen in a form factor that is relatively the same size as the current 4.7.

Also, I think this is Apple's way of eliminating their overly fragmented product line. Offer a top end model that most people are going to want in one size, market it as the perfect size because it encompasses the best attributes of both the 4.7 and 5.5, and wait. After a couple years they'll get rid of the plus and offer a 7SE in the 4.7 form factor at a lower price like they did with the 5SE. It'll just be those two phones, one new iPhone and a smaller cost-conscious model - that's it. Steve Jobs would fire everyone if he saw how fragmented the iPhone product line has become.
 
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Jimmy James said:
Yuck. Give me big bezels.
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this is exactly whats wrong with this website lmao.

2015: "look at those antenna lines again! yuck! and the bezel? disgusting!
2016: " wow they got rid of the Antenna lines, but look at that basic backing, yuck!
2017: " wow, no big bezels? Yuck give me big bezels!
2018: "it still has a screen? Yuck!"
 
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Sunny1990 said:
Every time Same concept with awful camera earpiece cutout. No original leak:(

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Ugh! This camera ^^^and ^^^earpiece cutout from display looks awful.Hope Apple has something way nicer planned.:D
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I’ve seen a more realistic concept where the usable area is restricted below the earpiece/camera cut out and mirrors the curve of the bottom, while the space on both sides of the cut out are black, but display info like signal strength. That implementation is much nicer looking.
 
Filled with curiosity.

Really really hoping that they use an OLED to individually light up the display for notifications. Could do some pretty cool stuff with that!
 
Darrensk8 said:
Do we really think the sensors/camera/speaker will be designed to cut into the screen like that?!?

I guess you'll need to see it in person but it looks kinda ugly to me
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I like it. Sort of like a "Magical Place" :apple:
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jmpage2 said:
There is no f*cking way they are going to have that ugly ass cutout at the top of the screen. Why do we keep seeing this eye pollution in renders?
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Put money on it? ;)
 
carpleror said:
Never said Apple doesn't make great products, they definitely do. Although they're not as "freakin' amazing" and groundbreaking as many people believe, and they could benefit from a little innovation lately. But you're right, Apple at the moment is riding on the curtails of Steve Jobs but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

I think Apple really survives because of how well all their products work together. Someone like myself who needs the latest and greatest tech isn't as willing to move to an Android device as they are the next mediocre iPhone because it all works together. I have a Mac, AppleTV, AirPods, iPad, and iPhone and they all just work together. Switching disrupts the ecosystem and I think many people aren't willing to do that. Also, I think iPhone has definitely become a status symbol. I know at least where I live, if you don't have an iPhone you're kind of looked at as if you can't afford it (even though Android is just as expensive).
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I don't think they would do that. The current rumors are the 4.7 and 5.5 will retain the same form factor as the 7, but the 5.8 OLED will have the reduced bezels which allows for a larger screen in a form factor that is relatively the same size as the current 4.7.

Also, I think this is Apple's way of eliminating their overly fragmented product line. Offer a top end model that most people are going to want in one size, market it as the perfect size because it encompasses the best attributes of both the 4.7 and 5.5, and wait. After a couple years they'll get rid of the plus and offer a 7SE in the 4.7 form factor at a lower price like they did with the 5SE. It'll just be those two phones, one new iPhone and a smaller cost-conscious model - that's it. Steve Jobs would fire everyone if he saw how fragmented the iPhone product line has become.
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Maybe iPhone was a status symbol in 2008 but not now in 2017 when high end Android phones cost just as much with less service.
 
Anyone looking at my posts for the last year would say I have not been overly kind to Apple and many of their decisions, but I hope I am not as hostile as many here seem to be. One oft repeated theme is that Apple phones are no longer 'innovative'. Things may have been added or removed from this list, and some of them, if they are there may be so limited as to be a disappointment but here is what I have heard will be on this phone:
  • OLED screen.
  • New processor-each of the last 4 or 5 phones Apple has had the fastest processor, usually beating top of the line phones released months after the iPhone.
  • More memory starting at 64 gb.
  • Wireless charging. Haven't heard much of this lately.
  • Facial recognition capabilities.
  • Home button & Touch ID on the front display screen . Samsung couldn't get their version to work for this model year and put a physical button on the back of the phone.
  • Dual lens camera, potentially with AR capabilities.
  • Support for the Apple Pencil
There are sites (CNET) that say AirPods may be included with the most expensive model, but I haven't seen confirmation of this so I didn't include it in my list. I also have seen that the NFC chip will be open to 3rd party apps, but that may be a software improvement and not based on the phone.

With some of the items above Apple is definitely not the first. Dual cameras, wireless charging (if it really is included) facial recognition and increased memory are all things various other smart phone makers already have, so it depends on if these are marked improvements over what is available, and I can't answer that.

But complaining that the phone has a metal side and back? Really? THAT is your lack of innovation? Or that they have a bezel? And others complaining that they are eliminating the bezel? The front camera has to physically go somewhere behind the new screen, so obviously having part of the screen reserved for this camera, perhaps only when not viewing pictures or videos or playing games, proves that Apple really is clueless? What is Samsung doing that is so infinitely better here?
 
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