if im not mistaken, you'll have make a charged call every 180 days to keep the sim active. but apart from that, your plan seems fine.
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Confirmed (again!) O2 PAYG 8GB=£349.99 16GB=£399.99
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if im not mistaken, you'll have make a charged call every 180 days to keep the sim active. but apart from that, your plan seems fine.
In that case lets start moaning like mad about the price and demand 18 months of free data.
I don't think this would qualify as false advertising because they took action to take down the prices without delay, but if you see something advertised in a shop window at a certain price then there is a certain obligation for the seller to sell it at that price if purchasing there and then. The Internet, however, has given sellers no end of excuses.
I bought a copy of CS3 from quite a large Internet seller and nowhere on their site was there mention of it being an upgrade version. The only thing that identified it as such was the product number, which had to be cross checked with other sellers. When it arrived I tried to argue that I had bought it in good faith - in fact I had telephoned before I ordered and the staff were clueless as to the details - but they would only refund and not supply full version.
I just don't understand what o2 are playing at. Why didn't they just put the prices up along with the contract prices in the first place? Why have they now taken them down? If it was mistake and someone put them on the site too early, it's too late now. Everyone knows what was on there yesterday. They should have just kept the prices on there. This is becoming stupid.
.. And now the monthly contract tariffs won't even load. Great.
Anyone think they may be lowering the prices? (PAYG/Contract)
R-Fly
Anyone think they may be lowering the prices? (PAYG/Contract)
R-Fly
Apart from Macworld who claim the 16 GB was priced at £400: http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=21803 Definitely an error, I'm sure because the source they give says £359.
I totally agree, though, my only thought is that they either have been forced to wait because other operators are delaying their announcements in other parts of the world or they don't want contract heads, who can pre-register, to think too closely about the possibility of Pay & Go. Or is there some announcement yet to come that iPhone will be available as a Pay & Go from multiple providers - hence the attractive free data being offered and the sale of iPhones by Ohmac.
They're obviously being held for a full marketing launch. They've been pulled because marketing doesn't think about a few hundred people on message boards as being nearly as important as being "joined up" to millions of people.
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Not quite so...an advertised price is a simple invitation to treat..the transaction is only binding when money has changed hands.
AIUI you have slightly more protection when buying over the internet with the "Distance Selling Regulations".
I feel we're being held captive.....just waiting and waiting! As its been mentioned, we now know the prices, just release them O2!!
It is getting silly now and my energy for waiting is getting thin!
It is getting silly now and my energy for waiting is getting thin!
O2 or any other store online or offline are under no obligation to sell you anything at the listed/advertised price if it was a mistake, though may well do so as a gesture of good will if they felt necessary. The advertisement isn't an offer, its an invitation to treat. The money you go to the till with is the offer, which they can choose to accept or not
OK, so lets assume when O2 decide to put the costs/tariffs back up they are the same.
Then if no bolt ons are possible and none of the iphone tariffs offered any anytime non-O2 UK call tarrifs (just the talkalot off peak). The standard cost to non o2 is 25p per min. Therefore if you make more than 14 calls a month longer than 3 mins during the day then your better off on contract?
£360 16GB, £120 data for 12m (after free 6m,) plus £10.5 pcm on those 14 calls for 18months (your would also get 300 uK texts) = £669.
Whilst cheapest contract is £735 (a difference of £66 over 18months).
Hence if you spend at least an additional £3.6 pcm (on other calls £66-18m). Plus the caveat of only topping up to nearest £10, but I am just working out actual spend (which sets the min) rather than top up. Then contract is the way to go?
I think.
from what I can tell, yes, if I was to buy an iPhone and spend ~£20 a month on top ups for 18 months, I would save £60 over the contract, but gain alot less. I use around 200 mins+ and at 25p/min thats £50. Then include £10 a month for data after 6 months for a year. So I would end up paying alot more for what I use, so a £35 contract for me is the best option.
Also, as far as I can tell, the PAYG Tariffs that were shown are the same for all phones that 02 sell. They just haven't included all the PAYG options for the iPhone. This however, could change since they have taken the prices off.
As for contract, I hope they up the minutes and texts because if you top up over £30 a month on PAYG, you got unlimited texts. its was 500 on all contracts before.
Okay let me get this straight, The O2 P2G iPhone comes with no subscription at all, right? I mean, that's why its a P2G phone.
Appleinsider displays different data and calling plans for the iPhone from O2, how come?
Would it be possible for me as a Swede to go to UK and just buy the damn phone, take it home and unlock it?
'Cause I really dont want to sign up for a contract in Sweden with Telia "blowjob" Sonera. I'd rather just buy it and use it with my carrier instead.
Appleinsider displays different data and calling plans for the iPhone from O2, how come?
Would it be possible for me as a Swede to go to UK and just buy the damn phone, take it home and unlock it?
'Cause I really dont want to sign up for a contract in Sweden with Telia "blowjob" Sonera. I'd rather just buy it and use it with my carrier instead.
because its a phone.. I've had plenty of 3G phones before and browsing speed is fine. Adding HSDPA is better for file transfer and other things like syncing outlook. I dont really think it adds THAT much to browsing in general.
0.5%? I don't think so. I work in a business world. Perhaps you work in starbucks.
I know you can sometimes get cheap flights from Sweden to the UK, but I would be inclined to find out what other carriers in mainland Europe are going to charge for official unlocked iPhones.Would it be possible for me as a Swede to go to UK and just buy the damn phone, take it home and unlock it?
'Cause I really dont want to sign up for a contract in Sweden with Telia "blowjob" Sonera. I'd rather just buy it and use it with my carrier instead.
And you may have to wait a long time for a third party unlocking solution if Apple have improved the security of the device.
If I buy it in UK I'll just ask one of my friends, they go there all the time
And of course I'll wait and see what the other carriers have to offer in EU
Edit: O2's price is a lot better for the 16 GB when comparing to Vodafone's price. £360 vs £451. Hopefully we'll see the other countries prices soon, like Germany and France.
Is electronics generally cheaper in UK than rest of EU?
The best would be if AT&T and/or Apple released a PAYG phone in the US, imagine the price there
Me like.Edit 2: Do you really think that there will be officially unlocked phones in EU?
Absolutely. I already booked a flight to Italy to get my iPhone there because I thought that with the expensive British Pound there would be no way it would be cheaper in UK... Well, now I'm about to book a Ryanair flight to London instead, so I really hope that those O2 prices were real and that they'll still have iPhones in stock a week after launch!
German T-Mobile prices have already been announced, but there will be no PAYG option here
Orange has announced the French prices today, but it seems that this time around the won't have PAYG either.
BTW, O2 has commented (or rather declined to comment) on the price slip by now: http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/15690/16714/O2-no-comment-iphone-payg.phtml
I knew it! At least we know the prices are official, just we shouldn't have seen them yet!
Now lets see whether O2 keep those prices, or "re adjust" them!
Someone in the o2 marketing department probably thought it was a good way to generate a buzz around the PAYG announcement by pulling the details shortly after they appeared online. I'd not be surprised if it was a calculated act. If so it worked and the mishap now appears on several news feeds today.
What pulling the feed has a greater impact than releasing it and keeping it up?
This country!
It gets people talking about it even more as we now believe it was not meant to be seen. I find it unlikely that someone at o2 accidentally uploaded those pages and marked them as live.
I agree its a ploy to create more "buzz".
Its not like a junior member of their web team was messing with something, as uploading the new page to the live O2 site is a pretty major thing to do.
Lets face it, were on page 8 of this rumour thanks to the taking away of the O2 pricing page (plus the original excitement of the pricing i suppose!)
Its not like a junior member of their web team was messing with something, as uploading the new page to the live O2 site is a pretty major thing to do.
Lets face it, were on page 8 of this rumour thanks to the taking away of the O2 pricing page (plus the original excitement of the pricing i suppose!)
Yep good point, although if they left it up it would give people more chance for the contract vs PAYG dilema.
Every few hours I convince myself one way then back again a bit later on.
Basically I have used on av the last 6months ~140mins cross network and ~50 texts (despite having 100s of mins n texts left each month). But then I would not like to feel inhibited on PAYG thinking "25p/min" as am talking. Then again just think of the environment with all those wasted mins/texts on contract...
There I go again