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iRobo said:
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//

Just a note. If you look at the average of the average time between updates you discover that there are, amongst all the products, a 192 days period between updates.

Currently only 177 days have passed since the last update to the MBP. Oct 26 would be Mac Expo in the UK. If they anounced then (185 days) and shipped one week later they would be at the average (192 exactly).

Also noting that major US and Euro retailers are out of stock or low on stock is also a fairly good indicator.

Finally, I think it would be pretty damn sad if after 192 days of updating they merely give us a .16 processor upgrade...

/4 cents and counting

Yeah i really dont think that adding a 17" counts as an update for the 15" also. it's faulty logic. We need the update. those of us who are smart didnt want first gen MBP's
 
iRobo said:
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com//

Just a note. If you look at the average of the average time between updates you discover that there are, amongst all the products, a 192 days period between updates.

Currently only 177 days have passed since the last update to the MBP. Oct 26 would be Mac Expo in the UK. If they anounced then (185 days) and shipped one week later they would be at the average (192 exactly).

Also noting that major US and Euro retailers are out of stock or low on stock is also a fairly good indicator.

Finally, I think it would be pretty damn sad if after 192 days of updating they merely give us a .16 processor upgrade...

/4 cents and counting

Good grief, Nostrodamus!
 
interesting

well, i too am still waiting, nearly tempted by a refurb, but I have held the nerve so far, the other item that I have been tempted by is the mac mini.

when they anounced that you could get a 160gb drive for them, that got my attention, but then there was a 4-6 week wait if you selected it in the shop (obviously they did not have enough stock to fill expected demand)

I have looked at the mac mini again tonight and its now down to 2-4 weeks, I think that if they are releasing a MBP with this disk they would like to have some in stock, so I recon in the next 4 weeks we will see a upgrade, hoping for a new case, easilly removable hard disk, and higher resolution screen options (other manufacturers can do this with the same 15.4 size, have a look on the thread on here where some guys are trying to retro fit them to the MBP :D )

Like you all I am hoping for something asap, but I recon the next 4 weeks and we should have something by then
 
well if they are coming out at mac expo london i will have to hurry up and get the day off work, i wasnt going to bother because it is about 3-4 hrs drive to london from my house
 
Its not really apple like to just "bump up" the MBP line. I could imagine they wanted to do something differently, and if it was just a spec jump, they would have released it already. Still, look at the ipod. The 5.5g is just a spec jump, no real change.

But I'm still waiting, and have so since Intel in macs, but i wonder when is it the right time to buy a MBP(soon)? When OS 10.5 is out?

I really need a new comp, but cant justify spending alot of money on a 17" MBP when i could get one with NAND, C2D, Osx 10.5, and maybe 1080P screen by just waiting a few more months.

My 2 cents. :p
 
timmillwood said:
well if they are coming out at mac expo london i will have to hurry up and get the day off work, i wasnt going to bother because it is about 3-4 hrs drive to london from my house


Even if they didn't come out, I'm sure it would still be worth the trip. :D
 
ToXicWaSTe said:
Its not really apple like to just "bump up" the MBP line. I could imagine they wanted to do something differently, and if it was just a spec jump, they would have released it already. Still, look at the ipod. The 5.5g is just a spec jump, no real change.

But I'm still waiting, and have so since Intel in macs, but i wonder when is it the right time to buy a MBP(soon)? When OS 10.5 is out?

I really need a new comp, but cant justify spending alot of money on a 17" MBP when i could get one with NAND, C2D, Osx 10.5, and maybe 1080P screen by just waiting a few more months.

My 2 cents. :p
I'm in the same boat. i'm waiting for Leopard to come out before i get a new MBP. I reckon that the new MBPs will be out before then, maybe even another upgrade to the one we're waiting for this quarter.

I hope they add a black option for MBP....or maybe a darker silver.
 
mdntcallr - "those of us who are smart didnt want first gen MBP's"

Maybe those of us that were as smart or smarter ordered week 35+ MBPs and have been enjoying all of the power w/o problems.

I have purchased many Rev A Macs w/o any issues. I tried a Rev A 15" from the store that had the inverter buzz problem and it went back the next morning. Waited awhile - got a new 17" and it has been perfecto thus far.

Finally - you sometimes just have to purchase based on NEED - you take your chances - nothing to do with "smart".
 
ToXicWaSTe said:
Its not really apple like to just "bump up" the MBP line. I could imagine they wanted to do something differently, and if it was just a spec jump, they would have released it already. Still, look at the ipod. The 5.5g is just a spec jump, no real change.

But I'm still waiting, and have so since Intel in macs, but i wonder when is it the right time to buy a MBP(soon)? When OS 10.5 is out?

I really need a new comp, but cant justify spending alot of money on a 17" MBP when i could get one with NAND, C2D, Osx 10.5, and maybe 1080P screen by just waiting a few more months.

My 2 cents. :p

Sounds like you really DO NOT NEED a new computer if you can continue this endless waiting game. I finally needed one and HAD TO PURCHASE, Rev A, B, C, or whatever no longer mattered - had to have it.
 
Yeah, am also in the "need a new computer" bloc, but the only reason why I'm waiting is to get it through Best Buy and get a product upgra-- replacement plan. :cool:

I definately want a MBP pro.

On the debate of 'will it be a bump or a full update' - I think the arguement goes both ways. Apple has waited extensive periods (it seems) to even do bumps, but in this specific case, a bump wouldn't really make the MBP that great. With competition growing for the Memrom market, I dont see why they wouldn't do a more extensive update, and then (i hope) update the keyboard.
 
Apple Corps said:
Sounds like you really DO NOT NEED a new computer if you can continue this endless waiting game. I finally needed one and HAD TO PURCHASE, Rev A, B, C, or whatever no longer mattered - had to have it.

I live in Denmark(tax = 25%) and I'm a student(No income), so i really need something that can last me a long time. I've had the money for a MBP for 4 months now, and on one hand i need a computer desperately for class, and on the other i feel like I can wait for the most future proof buy.

(Its 3699$ for a MBP 17" in denmark)
 
ToXicWaSTe said:
I live in Denmark(tax = 25%) and I'm a student(No income), so i really need something that can last me a long time. I've had the money for a MBP for 4 months now, and on one hand i need a computer desperately for class, and on the other i feel like I can wait for the most future proof buy.

(Its 3699$ for a MBP 17" in denmark)

In what way will Rev B "future proof" things? For 99% of the users the 64 bit capability will have little meaning because the software is not there. By the time it is your MBP will be WAY OLD NEWS be it Yonah or Merom. I guess I'm simply trying to differentiate between want (neat new features) and need (must have a computer).

I delayed as long as possible so that most of the problems were worked out - so far so good. If a Rev B is that much better I will WANT it and sell my Rev A - but I doubt that I will NEED it.
 
Apple Corps said:
In what way will Rev B "future proof" things? For 99% of the users the 64 bit capability will have little meaning because the software is not there. By the time it is your MBP will be WAY OLD NEWS be it Yonah or Merom. I guess I'm simply trying to differentiate between want (neat new features) and need (must have a computer).

I delayed as long as possible so that most of the problems were worked out - so far so good. If a Rev B is that much better I will WANT it and sell my Rev A - but I doubt that I will NEED it.

I know many think that 64 bit is unnecessary, but i cant just go buy a new computer. The average computer is replaced every 3 years, I might have to use this for 4 or 5 years because i dont have the money. Therefore 64 bit is a big deal for me. The fact that everything is getting outdated really really fast is also a really good reason to wait that month or two or even four for a BIG update like 64 bit. Look at the ipod, Gen1 is 5 years old and look how different it is. It went from 4gb to 80gb in 5 years, Color screen, Maybe even touch- widescreen soon:rolleyes:

I have my doubts certainly, but i havnt found anyone that can really convince me that i should rush to the nearest apple store.
 
Apple Corps said:
In what way will Rev B "future proof" things? For 99% of the users the 64 bit capability will have little meaning because the software is not there. By the time it is your MBP will be WAY OLD NEWS be it Yonah or Merom. I guess I'm simply trying to differentiate between want (neat new features) and need (must have a computer).

I delayed as long as possible so that most of the problems were worked out - so far so good. If a Rev B is that much better I will WANT it and sell my Rev A - but I doubt that I will NEED it.

While I agree for the most part about software not being 64 bit for awhile, doesn't it make a difference that OS 10.5 will be 64 bit? Doesn't that allow the OS to access more than 3 GB RAM? Or is it only beneficial to the programs that are running under the OS... I have also been thinking about "future proofing" so I'm curious to know if the benifits of 10.5 being 64 bit are worth waiting for the upgrade or not.

I realize that 3 GB of RAM is a lot to use up to begin with, but I'm an architecture student and if I had a computer that was able to, I could be running Photoshop, SketchUp (3D modeling) and Autocad (under parallels), while still being able to open iPhoto, iTunes, Keynote, etc... and still function (as I melt a hole through my drafting desk :eek: ). It's surprising how often I'll have the need arise to find a photo in iPhoto to show someone (they are so hard to find without iPhoto) while I'm working on a 24"x36" presentation board at 300 dpi (and sometimes mulitiple boards) and it takes iPhoto 20-40 seconds to launch. I guess I am looking forward to a day where you can run just about anything you want when you want without worrying, and I was just hoping that day may be closer than I used to think...
 
adrianblaine - is it worth the wait? Depends on your situation. The whole 64 bit thing is so overblown at the moment vis a vis "futureproofing". If I could have waited another 3 months or so I would have. However, my trusty TiPB with 8 MB vram is not quite up to handling 1080p HD video :eek:

The current MBPs are FAST and will run the new 64 bit OS very well - I just know that:eek:

If you can wait - probably all the better. But, on the current performance front, some of us are only able to suffer so much for so long before we say the current batch of week 35+ MBP are excellent - and we purchase and see amazing performance gains.
 
New Laptops

In new product and development and product launch a couple of months
is a nano second. Don't expect anything until MWSF. It is perfect timing.
 
sjphoto said:
In new product and development and product launch a couple of months
is a nano second. Don't expect anything until MWSF. It is perfect timing.

Huh? What does the iPod Nano have to do with this, and what's it second to? How does that tie into MWSF?
 
ThunderLounge said:
No, not really.

But I'm sure someone else was wondering it, that may have never heard of a nanosecond.

But you do have to be slightly geeky to appreciate the Nanotube iPod Nano cover name :).

Cheers.
 
Apple Corps said:
In what way will Rev B "future proof" things? For 99% of the users the 64 bit capability will have little meaning because the software is not there. By the time it is your MBP will be WAY OLD NEWS be it Yonah or Merom. I guess I'm simply trying to differentiate between want (neat new features) and need (must have a computer).


Actually, from what I saw at the various sessions at WWDC, it's not going to be that difficult for developers to optimize their code for 64-bit. I suspect we'll start seeing 64bit optimized apps shortly after Leopard is released. Developers have the OS betas and the development tools already to be working on those apps right now.


Sam
 
clintob said:
I love how rumors have degraded to the point where we've resorted to posting the old "I know a guy, who's cousin knows a guy, who overheard Steve Jobs at a brunch, that..."

IIRC that's roughly how Dvorak got the scoop on the Intel Macs. The one time he was right...

longofest said:
Folks, there is a reason why this was posted on page 2. We almost didn't even bother posting it, but being that Engadget was the one saying it, we decided to go ahead and run some sort of story about it.

I'm glad you did. Ignore the nattering nabobs of negativism.

thejadedmonkey said:
Ok, is anyone else getting tired of these rumors? They're almost as bad as the iPhone and Powerbook G5!

How to waste time:
1) read a thread you don't have interest in
2) complain about it
3) ask if anyone else is doing the same thing

rkriheli said:
Same here. I would like to see an upgraded screen resolution. That would induce me to sell my powerCrook and go MBP. any other additions would be sweet (like fw800 on the 15").

e.SATA ... e.SATA ... yes'm, germs, 3.2Gbps hard-drive backups (and Time Machine drives I guess).

(I held my breath for 3.2Gbps 1394b for 10 years then exhaled)
 
Don't get your hopes up, there will not be a GMA 3000X in the new MacBook. The device isn't even completed yet. The first time we see that will be in the Santa Rosa MacBooks.

If you are going to game, even casually, get the MacBook Pro. I got the MacBook, and it can't handle my meagre graphics expectations. Aside from that this baby is as perfect a laptop as I could have asked for.
 
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