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The reason that a robot is used is that UV-C is effective at killing the virus, but a human operator would be exposed. AYTU's scheme uses UV-A, which is supposedly safe for bronchioles, but harmful to viruses.
But, provided millions of Americans can be treated in intensive care units, at hundred of thousands of dollars a pop, it just might work!
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talking about hydroxy, UV treatments and other suggestions are simply the administrations way to perhaps bring down the level of fear in people. I will say Trump would do far better if he just shut up and the let others do the talking.
Not PRSI, but yeah. He should. I don't know why American presidents now are expected to be all-knowing all-round individuals on each and every topic (and some... like someone... believe they are), on top of pretending to be the perfect families. It's ok for the President, or the CEO of a company, to not know the details, or the technical stuff. It's ok to not knowing the subject. They have to stick to public policy, which is meant, take inputs from many experts (hopefully in disagreement with each other), rigurgitate, provide the policy proposal.
As Ford said: "I don't necessarily need to know it. If I don't, I just pick up the phone." (or something like that)
"Truth, like all things, is a matter of political perspective."
A cursory scan of the document (I wish that more writers would learn about BLUF) suggests to me that this is a policy oriented document hidden behind the scientific element.
I have not questioned the validity of the scientific evidence, and I have not questioned any conclusion, or the legitimacy of whoever wrote the article, or even those who funded it (such as the Gates Foundation).
However, the conclusion is quite clear in its intent. I am not criticizing it as invalid. When the text clearly states "Considering the deep dive of the stock market" and "an investment of a few billion dollars would allow us" it is evident that this is a financial policy piece, not a report on the status of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. That's all I am saying.
I don't understand why my comment upsets you. Mine was a simple consideration - in reply to a user asking for the meaning - about the bottom line of the article. Never have I mentioned neoliberalism, or politics, or that they're wrong in any way whatsoever, or that the scientific research in it is incorrect/unreliable. It's a policy piece, asking for more (unquantified) billions in investments.
(For the record, I find the video you linked unfair.)
Reader A, with a degree in the lifesciences, reads the paper and sees a lot of interesting biology and a fleeting mention of costs.
Reader B, with a degree in economics sees a whole bunch of biological gobbedygook with a huge price tag.
Given that the journal is Cell, which reading is most appropriate?
Reader B, with a degree in economics sees a whole bunch of biological gobbedygook with a huge price tag.
Given that the journal is Cell, which reading is most appropriate?
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It could be both Reader A and Reader B, otherwise they would've not written the conclusion as they did but they would've kept it on bio/scientific terms only. The goal of the paper is to show the need for money.
The authors make their undoubtfully well researched points, and make a recommendation which is aimed at easing the second wave (and the impact of future viruses) through policies, regulatory agencies, governments, pharmaceutical companies, and therefore through lots of money. The fact that the article is published on a journal of technical nature does not exclude that this is a paper aimed at asking for money in the least. Actually, this is a fundamental part of how things are done: the first step is usually to convince your peers of the necessity for funding research, and it seems that the authors do their job in that. There is nothing wrong with that, and it does not remove anything from the scientific research (if anything, it might prove to other researchers that the scientific research is of fundamental importance). Then you need to convince whoever wants to pay, and again the authors do that (albeit writing their statement just at the end).
"Huge price tag" is a personal evaluation; personally, I think that a few billions for a Covid-19 vaccine would be very be well worth it. I made no evaluation on the price tag until now, and I made no criticism - or praise - of the argument proposed by the authors which are no doubt experts in their subject.
I am still puzzled.
During normal times pharma will have spent billions on doing just that. When time is of the essence, the cost goes up. A final price tag for each covid-19 antiviral/vaccine developed (and failed also) will be an interesting item.
J&J has already written off 800M for a possible (good candidate) vaccine they're working on and will be mass producing in due time. If it doesn't work, the next administration will split the cost and then some tax write offs will ensue.
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May 1 {Five-Step-Success-Plan} marks the first day where my state will be operating at 25% capacity for ‘non-essential‘ businesses. Should be really interesting to see how ‘social distancing‘ is implemented.
For example, I know Best Buy is using ‘monitors’ (A.k.a-Employees walking around) throughout their stores, essentially they’re ensuring customers are within 6 feet of each other.
I can’t speak for anywhere else, but in my area, it seems the term social distancing Is chastised for what it stands for, but in all reality, it’s a very serious practice that needs to be executed how everyone can help make a difference. I think it’s the little things that are going to aid in combating the spread slowly over the course of time.
In terms of mask wearing, I have N95 masks I have access to, and I know a few individuals who have given up/refuse on the ‘mask concept‘ already (Which is their right), and that’s not the attitude to have in my opinion, I think we [collectively as a community] need to continue to go on with life, but accept some of the changes that are necessary to play a role in not also setting example, but taking the necessary precautions to protect yourself/families/anyone else around you.
For example, I know Best Buy is using ‘monitors’ (A.k.a-Employees walking around) throughout their stores, essentially they’re ensuring customers are within 6 feet of each other.
I can’t speak for anywhere else, but in my area, it seems the term social distancing Is chastised for what it stands for, but in all reality, it’s a very serious practice that needs to be executed how everyone can help make a difference. I think it’s the little things that are going to aid in combating the spread slowly over the course of time.
In terms of mask wearing, I have N95 masks I have access to, and I know a few individuals who have given up/refuse on the ‘mask concept‘ already (Which is their right), and that’s not the attitude to have in my opinion, I think we [collectively as a community] need to continue to go on with life, but accept some of the changes that are necessary to play a role in not also setting example, but taking the necessary precautions to protect yourself/families/anyone else around you.
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and that is just one of many pharma's ... 😣
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My other half works retail and she said the number of "confrontations" in store is high driven mostly by customers taking offense at being reminded to social distance.
First, Not sure if this gets said enough or not, but thank you to your wife for working in the retail industry to help provide the necessary essentials for remaining open in general to the public for whatever they might need for all consumers alike.
Second, ‘Social distancing‘ is a new form of etiquette that is a mandatory requirement for our future. Rather somebody chooses to abide by that or not, is their prerogative, but it will carry the ramifications for those who don’t understand, act ignorant it or simply chose to ignore it.
With retailers, hospitals, or any other businesses that aiding to help exercise social distancing, is putting our communities in a better position to understand to reduce the spread of C/19. For those who are getting ‘upset‘ over with social distancing Properties and what‘s intended for, clearly require education On the outcomes of social distancing.
I’ve always been a huge proprietor in being very hygienic, and now more than ever, using these practices Have ultimately paid off for me, and I think social distancing is the number one most important thing we can do next to handwashing coupled with basic hygiene measures.
J&J have a fairly good track record when it comes to vaccines. I have some faith. There's some British universities that had been studying coronaviruses for years and they've made some preliminary vaccines that seem to block COVID19 infection in monkeys and the sort. Given the magnitude of what's happening and what's to come, I'll take my GOP hat off and prefer we spend and spend and let it all come back in the future. Unless humanity explodes in the next year, we will persevere as a species.