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Got a lot of good folks and companies working on this. It is a matter of "when", not "if".
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Very true.
Got a lot of good folks and companies working on this. It is a matter of "when", not "if".
Some stores here (grocery, big box home improvement) are requiring their "associates" to wear masks, and "requiring" customers to do the same. If a customer shows up without a mask, they have some for them at a cost of $1
My only worry is that as of now we're not really sure if the antibodies will truly prevent people from contracting the virus again (either asymptomatic or asymptomatic)… if this thing is like the flu, a vaccine might not be the saving grace we hope it is. However, yep, we have to go for it and see what happens.
"The infection is under control and the Danish strategy has succeeded in a first, difficult phase," Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen told parliament.
https://www.thelocal.dk/20200430/coronavirus-under-control-in-denmark-prime-minister
According to the latest update from Statens Serum Institute, as of April 30:
https://www.thelocal.dk/20200430/coronavirus-under-control-in-denmark-prime-minister
According to the latest update from Statens Serum Institute, as of April 30:
- 452 people have died with the coronavirus in Denmark (up 9 from Wednesday)
- 255 patients are in hospital with the coronavirus (down 12 from Wednesday)
- 62 patients are in intensive care (down 4 from Wednesday)
- 50 patients are on ventilators (Unchanged from Wednesday)
- 9,158 people have tested positive for the coronavirus (up 150 from Wednesday)
- Tests/1M pop. 33,349 ( up 2262 from Wednesday)
Then they should listen if they don't want a confrontation. Problem is it's not fair to the ones actually trying to follow the rules getting encroached by the idiots and then getting yelled at.
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Problem is that has been said MANY times is your not just hurting yourself. You are hurting the people you are getting too close to. I've see some stores with signed that people breaking the rules will be ejected. But the issue with that is how do you know who broke the rule. I always try to follow the rules but idiots keep going the wrong way or block the aisles with their carts or are way too close.
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The store employees are reminding the customers who are not following the rules. The number of customers who are responding in a confrontational manner has been increasing. The employees are instructed to always back off and summon management. Some customers are asked to leave. A couple of customers have become physical. For these the police were summoned.
People forget that in many stores you have good HD video - inside and outside.
We should all be trying our best to get along through these times.
This looks worth the scientists' pursuit. Immune systems of llamas (and other critters in the line of camels) happen to produce smaller antibodies than do those of humans. These nanobodies, as they're called, are simpler to work with during efforts to find a way to derail a zoonotic virus like Covid-19.
Apparently one llama has produced some nanobodies that do appear to block this coronavirus. The researchers are from the University of Texas and from Belgium's VIB Institute. The work, being conducted in Belgium, aims to have clinical tests on humans in process by year end. LLama's name is "Winter"
Apparently one llama has produced some nanobodies that do appear to block this coronavirus. The researchers are from the University of Texas and from Belgium's VIB Institute. The work, being conducted in Belgium, aims to have clinical tests on humans in process by year end. LLama's name is "Winter"
I know it's way early, but this time of year some people are already asking when Halloween will be held in their communities. Yes, I'm serious.
So it occurred to me that holding Halloween this year sounds like a profoundly bad idea. Lots of kids and adults passing each other on sidewalks, getting candy from dozens of homes, is not a healthy plan. Sure, kids will be disappointed, but I'd like to offer an alternative.
Some communities already do the occasional car "parade" up and down local streets, in salute of police, medical personnel, etc. What if each family just bought their own kids candy (or iTunes cards, or whatever the kids would like to have), and then for an outdoor activity there were small, crawling, through-the-neighborhood parades of cars, led by a police cruiser. Older people staying home (like yours truly) could stand in their yards to watch, and cars could parade with their windows down, so that kids wearing their costumes could stick their heads out, show off their costumes and wave to people. Personally, I think kids would love to participate in a car parade.
So it occurred to me that holding Halloween this year sounds like a profoundly bad idea. Lots of kids and adults passing each other on sidewalks, getting candy from dozens of homes, is not a healthy plan. Sure, kids will be disappointed, but I'd like to offer an alternative.
Some communities already do the occasional car "parade" up and down local streets, in salute of police, medical personnel, etc. What if each family just bought their own kids candy (or iTunes cards, or whatever the kids would like to have), and then for an outdoor activity there were small, crawling, through-the-neighborhood parades of cars, led by a police cruiser. Older people staying home (like yours truly) could stand in their yards to watch, and cars could parade with their windows down, so that kids wearing their costumes could stick their heads out, show off their costumes and wave to people. Personally, I think kids would love to participate in a car parade.
Most of my community does the group gatherings like at all the shops in the marina or similar.
Hopefully something is figured out and in place by the Fall.
We have a few of those here too, mostly sponsored by churches. (I get the impression it's their alternative to what's viewed as a pagan holiday.) And those could maybe work. But you'd have to have kids in a line with everyone spaced 6' apart. Some of those draw dozens and dozens of kids, so you're talking about a long line. Then there's the issue of avoiding people in the parking lot...the candy is still being touched by who knows how many hands...etc.
You're right, though. They have plenty of time until fall to figure it out. One smaller town near me is planning on splitting up the 4th of July fireworks show. Instead of one big show that draws a crowd, they'll shoot them from several of the highest elevations in town, so that almost no matter where you are at home, you'll be able to see some of them. Not as good, but I admire thinking outside the box, and at least it's safer.
You're right, though. They have plenty of time until fall to figure it out. One smaller town near me is planning on splitting up the 4th of July fireworks show. Instead of one big show that draws a crowd, they'll shoot them from several of the highest elevations in town, so that almost no matter where you are at home, you'll be able to see some of them. Not as good, but I admire thinking outside the box, and at least it's safer.
We in the USA may need more focused and widespread messaging on the collective value of "masking up"...
If 80% of Americans Wore Masks, COVID-19 Infections Would Plummet, New Study Says
There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian locales are doing it right and we should really, truly mask up—fast.
Yeah, but....
everyone will be wearing masks!
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Without a doubt! In our community, most places I go (and they are few and far between) the people working do not wear masks, and few customers wear them. I don't go to the grocery store, but I was in a drug store, and there, all employees and most customers were wearing masks. Maybe it's the mindset of wherever food is sold, you wear a mask, but elsewhere, no need. (?)We in the USA may need more focused and widespread messaging on the collective value of "masking up"...
If 80% of Americans Wore Masks, COVID-19 Infections Would Plummet, New Study Says
There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian locales are doing it right and we should really, truly mask up—fast.www.vanityfair.com
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That has nothing to do with ‘mindset‘, it has everything to do with policy. Most restaurants/grocery stores or anything related in terms of actually selling a product that we consume that has the ability in terms of contracting C/19 through Touch, would be those particular stores. That’s why you would see so many employees wearing masks, even some ‘grocery stores‘ require masks be worn by customers. You’re kind of making it sound like it’s an option, when in reality, it’s not, per if the employer requires a mask from the employee, in some cases, even be worn by customers.
Doctors keep discovering new ways the coronavirus attacks the body
Deborah Coughlin was neither short of breath nor coughing. In those first days after she became infected by the novel coronavirus, her fever never spiked above 100 degrees. It was vomiting and diarrhea that brought her to a Hartford, Conn., emergency room on May 1.
“You would have thought it was a stomach virus,” said her daughter, Catherina Coleman. “She was talking and walking and completely coherent.”
But even as Coughlin, 67, chatted with her daughters on her cellphone, the oxygen level in her blood dropped so low that most patients would be near death. She is on a ventilator and in critical condition at St. Francis Hospital, one more patient with a strange constellation of symptoms that physicians are racing to recognize, explain and treat.
“At the beginning, we didn’t know what we were dealing with,” said Valentin Fuster, physician-in-chief at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak. “We were seeing patients dying in front of us. It was all of a sudden, you’re in a different ballgame, and you don’t know why.”
Doctors keep discovering new ways the coronavirus attacks the body
Kidney damage, blood clots and even "covid toes" prompt reassessment of the disease and how it should be treated.
www.washingtonpost.com
Deborah Coughlin was neither short of breath nor coughing. In those first days after she became infected by the novel coronavirus, her fever never spiked above 100 degrees. It was vomiting and diarrhea that brought her to a Hartford, Conn., emergency room on May 1.
“You would have thought it was a stomach virus,” said her daughter, Catherina Coleman. “She was talking and walking and completely coherent.”
But even as Coughlin, 67, chatted with her daughters on her cellphone, the oxygen level in her blood dropped so low that most patients would be near death. She is on a ventilator and in critical condition at St. Francis Hospital, one more patient with a strange constellation of symptoms that physicians are racing to recognize, explain and treat.
“At the beginning, we didn’t know what we were dealing with,” said Valentin Fuster, physician-in-chief at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak. “We were seeing patients dying in front of us. It was all of a sudden, you’re in a different ballgame, and you don’t know why.”
Well, yes and no. There was no sign posted requesting customers don a mask. The employees are certainly subject to company policy. Some stores here post people at the door checking for masks and offering masks (sometimes for a nominal charge) to those who don't have one. I haven't heard of them asking a customer to leave if they refuse to wear a mask, but I suppose that has happened. So, yeah, in the encounter I was describing, it was optional for customers, and I assumed that, because every employee I saw was wearing a mask, it was because they were required to do so.
It appears that the vaccine has been successful on human during the accelerated Phase I of testing. This is incredible news, hopefully it will be further proof of the human potential as we might have a vaccine relatively soon.
I want to steer clear of PRSI territory here, but if I understand Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" from last week correctly, basically it's encouraging the vaccine candidates currently under study to go ahead and ramp up production in advance of approval.
If this candidate does show safety and efficacy, and it's come later this year stockpiles of it have been produced after that has been shown, hopefully we can start wide-scale roll-out before the end of the year.
I realize that's an extremely optimistic timeline, but I'm hopeful.
Looks like the state of Georgia falsified their data maps. Someone had posted a link the other day that made zero sense. Didn't think the truth would come out this fast.
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J&J has been producing vaccine doses for weeks now. The cost is split between them and the government (see:taxpayers). This vaccine is based on probability, but J&J is known for their vaccine success, historically that is. Ideally, if it works, as does the Queensland and Oxford vaccines, then it takes some burden off the companies involved. Always good to have a lot of options available.
That graph from the Georgia State Health Department hurt my brain. Across the X-axis, which would normally be ordered ascending by date, it was instead sorted descending by the number of COVID-19 cases. Also, it claimed to be showing cases and deaths and hospitalizations, even though there was only one bar for each county and date. And an earlier version even had some dates repeated. Somebody in that department needs to go back to statistics class.
I don't even know what to say to that graph.
Even though the data on it may be technically correct, it certainly comes across as "cooking the books" to order the X-axis by decreasing Y-axis values...
It’s amazing to see the impact the media once had on my community with C/19 March through April, where I saw quite a few people masking, taking necessary precautions to practice social distance, and now the weather has turned absolutely amazing outside, and I feel like everything that our state was implementing in terms of exercising good hygiene with social distancing coupled with masking, is completely gone. I’m not seeing anyone wearing masks, There’s been hordes of people (Non-family members) grouping together when they shouldn’t be, And gyms are slated to open June 1, which in my city, we have over 75 gyms, and that concerns me with very few barriers in place that we may see another spike.
But my point is, The trend that I am observing, the weather has such a psychological impact on people, that everybody wants to get outside when it’s ‘sunny and warm‘, but they seem to Be complacent C/19 very Much exists still, where they have the mindset ‘this will go away during the summer’, when that’s not the reality in the slightest. Everybody plays a role in this, and when you have someone who either exhausted by all of these ‘practices‘ and/or doesn’t care anymore, that’s when achieved progress starts to regress, which is what I have a strong feeling will continue to happen. Everything that’s been positively done, can easily be undone with those who are letting down their guard and being complacent.
I admit, I’m human too, and with the weather being nice, there’s a lot of things that I want participate this summer with stay-cations are in place for a lot of people, but I don’t want to be one of those people who are taking wrong measures.
But my point is, The trend that I am observing, the weather has such a psychological impact on people, that everybody wants to get outside when it’s ‘sunny and warm‘, but they seem to Be complacent C/19 very Much exists still, where they have the mindset ‘this will go away during the summer’, when that’s not the reality in the slightest. Everybody plays a role in this, and when you have someone who either exhausted by all of these ‘practices‘ and/or doesn’t care anymore, that’s when achieved progress starts to regress, which is what I have a strong feeling will continue to happen. Everything that’s been positively done, can easily be undone with those who are letting down their guard and being complacent.
I admit, I’m human too, and with the weather being nice, there’s a lot of things that I want participate this summer with stay-cations are in place for a lot of people, but I don’t want to be one of those people who are taking wrong measures.
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When we see a second surge of cases and a second rise in the curve, keep in mind that this is expected, and it's happened, happening, or will happen in many countries and states. It was the same during the Spanish Flu epidemic.
The harsh reality is that as restrictions are eased (or as more people ignore the restrictions), and life returns slightly more to normal, more people congregate, more people get sick, and more people are lost. The "sweet spot" is when the curve stays below each region's health care capacity, giving adequate care to those who need it, while letting the economy resume to the extent possible.
The harsh reality is that as restrictions are eased (or as more people ignore the restrictions), and life returns slightly more to normal, more people congregate, more people get sick, and more people are lost. The "sweet spot" is when the curve stays below each region's health care capacity, giving adequate care to those who need it, while letting the economy resume to the extent possible.
Axios has put up an interactive map of the USA state by state, color coded for decreasing - steady - increasing rates of new cases for period from a week ago to yesterday; one can hover the cursor over any state to see its details.
Coronavirus cases are on the rise across the South
It's just one metric, but it's an important one.