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Anyway, to stray away from political talk...Chicago allowed Lollapalooza to happen last week/weekend. The rules were you had to be vaccinated and provide proof or show proof of a negative test. Given the situation our state is in right now, there was a LOT of criticism going around for this being allowed to continue as planned. Especially because those measures aren't foolproof. People got into it by showing BLANK vaccination cards.

Now, doctors are saying that "if you went to Lolla...you should probably get tested". Yep...who could've seen that coming 🤦‍♂️ My hospital said we have have to wear goggles and KN95's at work again, so basically whenever any of us here anything about Lolla...we collectively shake our heads, because allowing it to happen was an obvious case of money over health. Hundreds of thousands piling on top of each other at Grant Park...smart thinking, Chicago!
 
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⬆️ At this point, the mutations will just continue to evolve. And I’m sure the pharmaceutical companies behind the vaccinations realize that there is more that needs to be done. I may even read somewhere that they’re (companies like Pfizer, Moderna, ect) working on a formulated medicine to treat the disease, given these vaccination(s) probably won’t cover all of these cases that were seeing developed mutated in countries like Korea and now Pakistan.

By the end of 2021, we could have a dozen mutated strains from all over the world, and that poses the question, what’s the next productive step, given this is the likelihood of our future.
 
⬆️ At this point, the mutations will just continue to evolve. And I’m sure the pharmaceutical companies behind the vaccinations realize that there is more that needs to be done. I may even read somewhere that they’re (companies like Pfizer, Moderna, ect) working on a formulated medicine to treat the disease, given these vaccination(s) probably won’t cover all of these cases that were seeing developed mutated in countries like Korea and now Pakistan.

By the end of 2021, we could have a dozen mutated strains from all over the world, and that poses the question, what’s the next productive step, given this is the likelihood of our future.
Moving forward, we may have to accept that the virus isn't going away and we have to treat it as an endemic. The UK had accepted that with their experiment of returned normality and it seemed to be working. Another approach such as Israel would be to add booster shots, but this is still inconclusive to its efficacy in improving the outcome from severe illness.

Virus mutates when given the opportunity and the poor nations with the least vaccination rates are virus mutation factories. We are never going to shut off the borders and stop global trades completely nor are we going to stop employing those people either or permanently shutting down many businesses like conferences, fairs, concerts, shows that rely heavily on outside tourists, global tourists. As soon as you resume normality, employ back these people from Asia and Eastern Europe to work on Cruise Ships, hotels and conference halls. Guess what -- infection, mutations etc will continue like they do with the other known respiratory viruses we know.

Most experts had accepted the fact that for most vaccinated people, the re-infection symptoms will range from being very mild to being sidelined for a couple of weeks. Even for those unvaccinated but had a natural infection of the Delta variant will experience a similar outcome as vaccinated. You can deal with these symptoms at home like we do with the normal cold and flu. Nothing like a bowl of chicken soup, Tylenol/Advil and then a good rest won't cure. Some countries are already using existing medicine such as Ivermectin to help with the recovery of COVID. And then for the older population, a yearly booster shot when more data show its efficacy may be needed to ensure the protection for the older population is viable like the annual flu shot.

Right now, the unvaccinated had made a choice to basically get vaccinated through natural infection and I think we need to see that authorities come to accept that natural infection, while more lethal than vaccination, should be accepted. What we are now doing is pitting vaccinated against unvaccinated, when in fact, there is no vaccinated and unvaccinated. Sooner or later, any unvaccinated person will become infected by the more infectious variant as we are seeing now. Mathematically speaking, this is unavoidable unless you never go out of the house at all. But sooner or later, you have to go out and you will get infected like you do with the cold and flu when you venture out in public. So that's something the public and the authorities need to also accept, or otherwise, how would you welcome outside visitors into your country and restore global economic normality? Either by expediting global shipment and vaccination of poor countries and plug the virus hole as much as we can or else, we will live in a society where we become vaccine addicts, constantly outsmarting the next variant.
 
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On CNN this evening, Dr Wen (former head of health in Baltimore) said that she would much rather be in a confined indoor space with a random vaccinated person than a random unvaccinated person because the vaccinated person is much less likely to get infected in the first place….ergo less likely to transmit. Also, she said that it would be very helpful to have research and data on transmissibility from asymptotic vaccinated people.….suggesting that it might be significantly lower than unvaccinated people. She has been pretty critical of the messaging and communication from the CDC.

I agree with Dr Wen.
 
On CNN this evening, Dr Wen (former head of health in Baltimore) said that she would much rather be in a confined indoor space with a random vaccinated person than a random unvaccinated person because the vaccinated person is much less likely to get infected in the first place….ergo less likely to transmit. Also, she said that it would be very helpful to have research and data on transmissibility from asymptotic vaccinated people.….suggesting that it might be significantly lower than unvaccinated people. She has been pretty critical of the messaging and communication from the CDC.

I agree with Dr Wen.
Agreed on all counts.
 
Right now, the unvaccinated had made a choice to basically get vaccinated through natural infection and I think we need to see that authorities come to accept that natural infection, while more lethal than vaccination, should be accepted.
There are problems with this approach. Vaccination exposes all in a finite time. "Natural infection" leaves a reservoir which can continue passing it round for a long, long time. That offers a greater possibility of mutation and reinfection.

If those who want natural infection would all gather together in an infetion hotel (a hastily re-purposed quarantine hotel?), and cross-infect, it is much more arguable.
 
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Moving forward, we may have to accept that the virus isn't going away and we have to treat it as an endemic.
Nothing suggests that this would ever go away from the beginning (Even for those who said it would), especially now with the consistency of the mutations, and then of course as long as there’s millions of unvaccinated individuals roaming in the U.S for example, there’s no deadline to stopping this.

I also already mentioned this to you in the other ‘vaccine thread’, which is you have to fend for yourself to do what’s right/necessary for your safety in your community, nobody will do it for you. I know what I’m saying is completely obvious, people will make an impact in terms of setting an example, from masking, to sharing your vaccination success to others who are questioning it, being tactful with sanitization and maybe even avoiding large crowds of various venues, those are the sacrifices that need to be made in order to hopefully slow down the momentum, given there’s so much uncertainty moving forward, and most importantly to our location, is not overwhelming our healthcare providers.

I agree what @Phfusd said previously, and that was I would do whatever is necessary to protect myself as the situation continues to evolve, which means if there’s a booster available, additional vaccinations, adhering to advice from local epidemiologists, etc.

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I do want to add something that nobody else has mentioned, regardless if you’re vaccinated or not, [which most of us are]. I genuinely believe it’s vital to take a break from not being too emotionally attached to the anxiety of all of this worrying about mutations, what will happen tomorrow, ‘every breaking news article…’, etc. I’m a huge promoter in physical fitness in terms of weightlifting, but no matter what somebody enjoys doing, It’s really important to prioritize keeping your body physically on par with exercise and adequate sleep (8+). It’s one of the key components that balances your mental strength and physical stamina. I can’t stress this enough, and anybody that knows me, knows exactly what I’m talking about in terms of the importance what I mentioned above.
 
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Our county just changed to 'Substantial' Community Transmission and masks indoors recommended for all mode. I'm headed to the gym and don't expect to see anyone else with a mask on. Our state crossed the 1,000 threshold yesterday from 155 three weeks ago. I'm very disappointed. Our state was very fast to vaccinate and then stalled. We're at 54% fully vaccinated (percent of population). On Wednesday, a total of 12 people were vaccinated. The people in the Southeast are really stepping it up because they are in crisis. I wish the people in my state would step it up to avoid the crisis.
 
Our gyms tried to use masking and that failed miserably, because people weren’t wearing them properly, and quite frankly, they are useless in a gym when you’re exhaling harder with air escaping if there’s not a proper seal anyways. But still, I intentionally train at 1 AM in the morning, and I have the entire gym to myself, and that’s the sacrifice I’m willing to make so I don’t have to be in a crowded gym at 5 PM. That’s Kinda-sorta the point I was making earlier about being tactful, regardless of being vaccinated or not.

And yes, our case load has increased exponentially, and critical care floors are now nearing capacity, however; our vaccination rates are spiking, of course people are panicking, so the unvaccinated are trying to find the quickest route to be vaccinated, but even the completion series will take approximately six weeks total, which who knows where we’ll be in that time frame.
 
Our gyms tried to use masking and that failed miserably, because people weren’t wearing them properly, and quite frankly, they are useless in a gym when you’re exhaling harder with air escaping if there’s not a proper seal anyways. But still, I intentionally train at 1 AM in the morning, and I have the entire gym to myself, and that’s the sacrifice I’m willing to make so I don’t have to be in a crowded gym at 5 PM. That’s Kinda-sorta the point I was making earlier about being tactful, regardless of being vaccinated or not.

And yes, our case load has increased exponentially, and critical care floors are now nearing capacity, however; our vaccination rates are spiking, of course people are panicking, so the unvaccinated are trying to find the quickest route to be vaccinated, but even the completion series will take approximately six weeks total, which who knows where we’ll be in that time frame.

My gym is only open 5-9 so my options are limited. But there aren't a lot of people and kids at 5 AM. I sent an email to the club notifying them of our change in status and asking them if they are going back to masks inside to comply with CDC recommendations. I will make more use of my home gym and running outside or spinning at home. And will stay out of there when they have huge numbers of kids.

Our hospital situation is in good shape. Part of that is because of all of the hospital capacity in Massachusetts and the very high vaccination rates there. NH vaccinated really fast at the beginning and then hit the wall. I'd guess political affiliation was the factor. Half vaxxed up while the other half didn't.

I've seen this play out twice already and really hate that we'll be going through this again.
 
There are problems with this approach. Vaccination exposes all in a finite time. "Natural infection" leaves a reservoir which can continue passing it round for a long, long time. That offers a greater possibility of mutation and reinfection.

If those who want natural infection would all gather together in an infetion hotel (a hastily re-purposed quarantine hotel?), and cross-infect, it is much more arguable.
If you look at origins of the mutations, you will see that aside from the Alpha (UK Variant), other VOC (Variant Of Concern) originated from poor countries with poor virus mitigation and vaccination efforts. In fact, the origin of the original virus came from China, which didn't contain and neither did mitigate the virus adequately despite China's more draconian lockdown and allowed the original wild type to spread globally.

If you look at the United States of America and Canada, US started poorly with virus mitigation but positively with vaccinations and then it lagged, whereas Canada started well with virus mitigation but slowly with vaccinations and then it excels.

What you will see in both our countries is that we never did produce any variant of concern (VOC) did we? We may allow some of our less benign variants (VOI) to mutate and propagate and this is true with our unvaccinated population, but we both didn't produce our own domestic VOC, because of what we did in terms of virus mitigation and vaccination efforts. This is attributed to the great handling of the US CDC and Health Canada. Sadly it seemed that the scapegoating went towards our domestic unvaccinated population both in Canada and the US which were NOT responsible for the variant mutation of other countries. They may be responsible for being infected and spreading the VOC of other countries, but they weren't responsible for allowing VOC to mutate domestically.

Spreading of foreign variants came from both air and sea travel, especially from travellers who went to India and brought back the Delta and Delta Plus variants and travellers who went to Europe or the UK and brought back the UK variant. Travellers are the ones that were mostly vaccinated as well as all having a "NEGATIVE" PCR test as part of the condition of travel and being quarantined. And so why are still infection going on in the planes when theoretically there shouldn't when planes have their own HEPA filter that supposedly filter the virus? In fact, South Korea recently got a traveller returning back from the US fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca and yet still got infected with the Delta Plus variant.

Right now, the 4th wave in many countries are driven by the Delta/PLUS variant. If we completely shutdown air travel and block India, Brazil South America and South Africa would you think we would get the Gamma, Beta, Delta and Lambda variants in both our countries? If we completely shut air travel, completely decimate all airlines and cause them to become bankrupt, the pandemic for both of us perhaps would end in the 1st or 2nd wave. But it didn't, because it is completely unrealistic to shutdown air and sea travel, because we are so deeply intertwined in global travel and our economy is globally connected.

Virus mitigation is no different than mitigation in RATS in our community. If we have 10 homes in our neighbourhood and 10 homes have a rat problem. While you may be able to rid your rat problem by using traps and installing exclusion barriers stopping the rat from other homes entering your home, you couldn't stop the rat population from propagating, because other home owners in 9 other homes may decide to either minimally mitigate or deny the rat problem all together. Eventually, those rats from other homes expand and want to colonize your home again. Whatever exclusion barriers you erected will be broken down again. And that is because, unless all 10 home owner unite together and mitigate the rat problems together, you will continue to have rats because rats have a home to multiply. It's the same way virus works. As long as you allow human hosts to act as virus factories in a country with a leader who deny the virus existence or do little in mitigation, you will continually export new variants to Western countries, because we don't make anything anymore. We import trinkets from South America, Asia, Eastern Europe and globally like many homes in a community. Unless you move all production back to your domestic markets, then variants of concern will always exist even if you have most of your population vaccinated, because eventually a new variant will defeat current vaccines just like a rat gets smarter and not fall for the same traps.

We all live in a global community where all of us has to unite together to mitigate this virus. Otherwise, what we are seeing now is an "Everymen for himself" situation in countries where countries who can afford boosters buy them, like fortifying the exclusion barriers to resist more virus infection. Will this work? Well my experience with RATS is that it doesn't. It takes a community effort to rid all the rats in a community. The same effort must also be duplicated globally with COVID.
 
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Nothing suggests that this would ever go away from the beginning (Even for those who said it would), especially now with the consistency of the mutations, and then of course as long as there’s millions of unvaccinated individuals roaming in the U.S for example, there’s no deadline to stopping this.

I also already mentioned this to you in the other ‘vaccine thread’, which is you have to fend for yourself to do what’s right/necessary for your safety in your community, nobody will do it for you. I know what I’m saying is completely obvious, people will make an impact in terms of setting an example, from masking, to sharing your vaccination success to others who are questioning it, being tactful with sanitization and maybe even avoiding large crowds of various venues, those are the sacrifices that need to be made in order to hopefully slow down the momentum, given there’s so much uncertainty moving forward, and most importantly to our location, is not overwhelming our healthcare providers.

I agree what @Phfusd said previously, and that was I would do whatever is necessary to protect myself as the situation continues to evolve, which means if there’s a booster available, additional vaccinations, adhering to advice from local epidemiologists, etc.
Part of studying to work in nursing, I had to go through the study of infection control and how viruses and bacteria work, because it'll become very important in our line of work in how to prevent or mitigate any viral and bacterial outbreak, because it will happen.. One of the main concepts of a virus which seemed to escape many is that, it can't survive all on its own. If you take COVID and place it out in the open, it won't be able to survive for very long. COVID is like a parasite and it needs a host to not only survive, but multiply and eventually mutate. In the very beginning, many experts expect that we would behave exactly what trained professionals do, because simply a nation is like a big GIANT hospital and when you teach the people in the nation to perform what is exactly "Medical Asepsis" such as constant washing your hands, wearing of mask and social distancing. Remember those? Remember an app with the Apple Watch that guides you and reminds you with hand washing? Those alone can help mitigate and control the viral outbreak. That's what most hospitals and care homes do prior to COVID and that's why there wasn't any mandate of vaccinations, because if you practice good medical asepsis and the necessary vaccinations, you can prevent or control any viral outbreak. One of the modern technology that we had learned and accept is modern hygiene. A lot of past viral and bacterial outbreaks no longer exist because of our full acceptance of modern hygiene -- washing hands, modern sewers so streets don't get overwhelmed with abandoned urine and feces like in the early days, which were like 100 years ago and which was not so long ago. So we had accepted modern hygiene as a control and prevention of many past viral and bacterial outbreaks in today's modern societies.

If you look at the current variants today, they came from elsewhere. The WHO used to name these variants by the country of origin, but they went away with that and now name them by greek letters. Still, where were the variants from? Except the UK kent variant (Alpha), many were from poor nations. Was there a variant of concern that mutated in the US? Was there a variant of concern that mutated in Canada, which is a neighbor of the US? None of the VOC that was listed on the WHO viral list originated from the USA nor from Canada. They may have their own variant of interest mutation going on in the US and Canada, but what had dominated the variant infection today? Delta and it originated in India. And Delta had basically overtaken the other variants.

So how did Delta came to the US, Canada and other Western nations? By air. Air travel basically helped speed up the vector transmission of other variants that in the old days would had taken weeks or even months to come over the continent. It is air travel that we can not shut down. And look at air travel with its own strict virus mitigation effort and yet still unable to stop a single infection from happening. And look at someone who had full vaccination, came back to Korea from the US and got infected by the Delta Plus variant. Thankfully, South Korea's virus mitigation efforts and contact tracing is very good.

So you see, as long as you have a nation that allows the virus to continually multiply and mutate and us continually turning a blind eye to those nations and the recommendation of the WHO, then it will sadly be like "everymen for himself" so to speak. And this is not uncommon.

When I was working in nursing, I was trained in the highest standards of medical asepsis and sterilization protocol. My RN nurse instructor was the most strictest and we called her a F* - b**ch. After graduation, I went to work in a Christian run care home and hospital and right of the bat, they are very serious in viral and bacterial mitigation requiring all of us to be vaccinated to keep our jobs, show us proof of current fitting test of the N95 and our proficiency of wearing those PPEs! Interestingly enough during COVID, there was zero outbreaks on the care home and hospital I used to work for. And then on the side, I work as a private nurse picking up contracts of work here and there and then I noticed that other care homes and hospitals have this very laxed attitude to medical asepsis and sterilization protocols. Also no vaccine mandate either. Free for all and they have the most outbreaks when I worked there. And guess, I wasn't at least surprised that those care homes and hospitals in Canada had the most COVID outbreak. When you fail to even prevent infections with other viruses and bacteria; how successful will you be with COVID?

Then they found out about my Kelvar immunity and so gave me contracts that put me in a position where I am vaccinated and protected but I had no help from their staff because they didn't want to be infected. So you see this wide disparity of compliance EVEN in the medical community and professionals as you see in the general public. So it was like me "everymen for himself". I had to quit those contracts because there was no sincere team effort to prevent any viral or bacterial outbreak. And that's happening today with COVID. As long as we are not plugging the hole of other nations with lack of virus mitigation and vaccination efforts, I see this with my own past experiences working in nursing is that, you just have to fend for yourself. Those people who defy vaccinations and other common sense virus mitigation efforts will eventually be affected health and financial wise. That's because, what you do to others will affect others, but eventually will affect yourself.
 
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My gym is only open 5-9 so my options are limited. But there aren't a lot of people and kids at 5 AM. I sent an email to the club notifying them of our change in status and asking them if they are going back to masks inside to comply with CDC recommendations. I will make more use of my home gym and running outside or spinning at home. And will stay out of there when they have huge numbers of kids.

Our hospital situation is in good shape. Part of that is because of all of the hospital capacity in Massachusetts and the very high vaccination rates there. NH vaccinated really fast at the beginning and then hit the wall. I'd guess political affiliation was the factor. Half vaxxed up while the other half didn't.

I've seen this play out twice already and really hate that we'll be going through this again.

The only gym in my area that actually is applying limitations and constrained hours is Planet fitness. As much as I don’t care for that gym, and I think they’re laughable for silly cult-like rules, they probably are the most proactive in terms of applying guidelines to make the gym as safe as possible. But the irony is, no gym is safe when you’re wearing a mask or not, which we all know masks does _absolutely_ nothing in a gym. (<— By the way, I fully support masking, just pointing out what needs to be said.)

Regardless, in my opinion, when it comes to being in a sensitive environment, the two top places in my opinion would be obviously hospitals and gyms, simply because of the amount of exposure. Intelligent gym owners will follow CDC guidelines and pay attention to their community outbreaks, and adjust as necessary, which if that means it’s closure temporarily, then so be it.

By the way, I’m seeing a lot of gyms in our area that are now using an ‘activity log tracker’ that you can check online to see what the capacity is like before you leave for the gym, which is a nice tool to have, that way you can kind of adjust accordingly if you don’t want to be in a gym that’s crowded, (depending on the capacity of course). Although it’s not without its downfalls, as gym capacity can change within a minute of people coming and going.
 
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By the way, I’m seeing a lot of gyms in our area that are now using an ‘activity log tracker’ that you can check online to see what the capacity is like before you leave for the gym, which is a nice tool to have, that way you can kind of adjust accordingly if you don’t want to be in a gym that’s crowded, (depending on the capacity of course). Although it’s not without its downfalls, as gym capacity can change within a minute of people coming and going.

During lockdown, we had to book our time in the gym. So you could see the total number of slots and the slots reserved. That was a proxy of how busy the place was because there are people that don't show up for their time slots as there is no penalty. In the past, they had staff to do the extra cleaning and they did far more cleaning.

It appears that a lot of the college students that they hired for the summer have left and they have new staff that need to learn the ropes. And the ropes are a lot different in a pandemic.

The difference is that this gym has daycare. Camps will be over in a week I think so we won't have the 100 kids during the day. But the daycare will still be there and that's still a lot of kids.

If they shut the daycare down, a lot of parents would have a rough time. Hopefully EUA for kids comes soon - pretty sure it won't be here by the school year.

If my gym gets one case that spreads like crazy, they're going to lose a lot of people to other gyms. No gym wants to be that one that gets into the news for causing an outbreak.

I received notes from my hospitals on boosters, Delta and a reminder that masks are always required in the hospitals, and you can't go into the building without a reason for being there. I think that one of them relaxed rules on guests to assist. So yes, hospitals and gyms.

I don't know what the schools are going to do. They have less than a month and things are changing fast and they're facing exponential growth.
 
During lockdown, we had to book our time in the gym. So you could see the total number of slots and the slots reserved. That was a proxy of how busy the place was because there are people that don't show up for their time slots as there is no penalty. In the past, they had staff to do the extra cleaning and they did far more cleaning.

It appears that a lot of the college students that they hired for the summer have left and they have new staff that need to learn the ropes. And the ropes are a lot different in a pandemic.

The difference is that this gym has daycare. Camps will be over in a week I think so we won't have the 100 kids during the day. But the daycare will still be there and that's still a lot of kids.

If they shut the daycare down, a lot of parents would have a rough time. Hopefully EUA for kids comes soon - pretty sure it won't be here by the school year.

If my gym gets one case that spreads like crazy, they're going to lose a lot of people to other gyms. No gym wants to be that one that gets into the news for causing an outbreak.

I received notes from my hospitals on boosters, Delta and a reminder that masks are always required in the hospitals, and you can't go into the building without a reason for being there. I think that one of them relaxed rules on guests to assist. So yes, hospitals and gyms.

I don't know what the schools are going to do. They have less than a month and things are changing fast and they're facing exponential growth.
All healthcare providers in my are are now required to be vaccinated by October 12 or they can’t continue their practices (Which, that’s a ridiculously long time table to be vaccinated by). And masking is now fully required for all K-12 schools. Some private colleges are requiring to be vaccinated in order to be enrolled, but unfortunately; public colleges have no requirements. We’re on track to hopefully trying to mitigate the circumstances, but I think we still need retailers to put up their own guidelines in terms of requiring masks for those who want to do official business. USPS has now also change the ‘recommendation’ of masking to now ‘required’.

As I mentioned, the vaccination is now spiking for those who are panicked, which in some cases, might be too late for some of those people depending on there daily exposures they encounter.
 
All healthcare providers in my are are now required to be vaccinated by October 12 or they can’t continue their practices (Which, that’s a ridiculously long time table to be vaccinated by). And masking is now fully required for all K-12 schools. Some private colleges are requiring to be vaccinated in order to be enrolled, but unfortunately; public colleges have no requirements. We’re on track to hopefully trying to mitigate the circumstances, but I think we still need retailers to put up their own guidelines in terms of requiring masks for those who want to do official business. USPS has now also change the ‘recommendation’ of masking to now ‘required’.

As I mentioned, the vaccination is now spiking for those who are panicked, which in some cases, might be too late for some of those people depending on there daily exposures they encounter.

Part of the problem, even at hospitals, is FDA authorization. The big Boston hospitals said that they are going to require vaccinations but I think that it's after FDA approval. I think that it may come in September. That may be why you have the October deadline. I think that the vast majority of hospital employees got it as soon as they could.
 
Part of the problem, even at hospitals, is FDA authorization. The big Boston hospitals said that they are going to require vaccinations but I think that it's after FDA approval. I think that it may come in September. That may be why you have the October deadline. I think that the vast majority of hospital employees got it as soon as they could.

Could be. My wife told me that there’s other healthcare workers that she’s close friends with that already looking for other employment that won’t require the vaccination, some people just refuse to do it and that’s their prerogative, but accept the dire consequences for the actions.

I do agree that the FDA approval probably will boost more people to get vaccinated, but I still think people are using the FDA approval as leverage to not get the vaccination, so that way they don’t have to tell people their true feelings, so they won’t be chastised or singled out.

We’re Still sitting at a really good vaccination rate for the majority, with 65 and older is at ~89%, and the demographic below that number, is at ~54% until you reach the 21 age bracket, which obviously is considerably low.

The other major concern right now is the Sturgis bike rally out in South Dakota starting today, which I believe is supposed to have an attendance of near 1 million people, from all parts of the US and throughout, which if you know anything about that event, those people don’t have rules, it’s something that has to be closely monitored that hopefully doesn’t exacerbate things to a new level.
 
All healthcare providers in my are are now required to be vaccinated by October 12 or they can’t continue their practices (Which, that’s a ridiculously long time table to be vaccinated by). And masking is now fully required for all K-12 schools. Some private colleges are requiring to be vaccinated in order to be enrolled, but unfortunately; public colleges have no requirements. We’re on track to hopefully trying to mitigate the circumstances, but I think we still need retailers to put up their own guidelines in terms of requiring masks for those who want to do official business. USPS has now also change the ‘recommendation’ of masking to now ‘required’.

As I mentioned, the vaccination is now spiking for those who are panicked, which in some cases, might be too late for some of those people depending on there daily exposures they encounter.

The bold is interesting.. I could see this if this were, say, K-6, but not K-12. 6th grade would be the oldest a student could go without being vaccinated, so that makes no sense that public colleges/universities would not have the same restrictions that K-12 would, especially with being publicly funded.

BL.
 
The bold is interesting.. I could see this if this were, say, K-6, but not K-12. 6th grade would be the oldest a student could go without being vaccinated, so that makes no sense that public colleges/universities would not have the same restrictions that K-12 would, especially with being publicly funded.

BL.
Universities have never been on the same guidelines as elementary/high schools with masking. Different people making different decisions that are not affiliated with each other. I get the whole public sector aspect, but I think there’s more of a general concern for younger students and teachers in close quarters in classrooms (which we saw a greater spread with the ‘Alpha’ in our community in grade schools than we did in universities), when if you look at universities, I’d be more concerned about dormitory settings —V.S.— just a classroom.
 
Universities have never been on the same guidelines as elementary/high schools with masking. Different people making different decisions that are not affiliated with each other. I get the whole public sector aspect, but I think there’s more of a general concern for younger students and teachers in close quarters in classrooms (which we saw a greater spread with try ‘Alpha’ in our community in grade schools than we did in universities), when if you look at universities, I’d be more concerned about dormitory settings —V.S.— just a classroom.

Fair point about the dorms versus classroom.. Didn't think about that one. And if the kids think of partying like what we saw at Provincetown, then we'll definitely have a problem coming up, especially with fraternity/sorority rush.

BL.
 
Fair point about the dorms versus classroom.. Didn't think about that one. And if the kids think of partying like what we saw at Provincetown, then we'll definitely have a problem coming up, especially with fraternity/sorority rush.

BL.
Last year when saw the Alpha being dominant, people just thought it was a ‘common cold with a mild grade fever’ and they ignored it. Now we’re seeing the trajectory of what the Delta is capable of, and it seems everybody knows someone that lost somebody either close to them or has been severely damaged by this disease. So even though you have the majority of college students who are not always intelligent with making good decisions, hopefully they are at least vaccinated and if they’re not, they make the decision to seclude themselves from any type of large gatherings.
 
Last year when saw the Alpha being dominant, people just thought it was a ‘common cold with a mild grade fever’ and they ignored it. Now we’re seeing the trajectory of what the Delta is capable of, and it seems everybody knows someone that lost somebody either close to them or has been severely damaged by this disease. So even though you have the majority of college students who are not always intelligent with making good decisions, hopefully they are at least vaccinated and if they’re not, they make the decision to seclude themselves from any type of large gatherings.

I want to seriously think that they would make the right decision...

... Then I see Provincetown and then wonder if any breakouts will come out of Lollapalooza happening last week.. and ugh.. college football/gridiron season is coming up, where some universities are still going ahead with 100% capacity crowds.. 🤢

BL.
 
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I want to seriously think that they would make the right decision...

... Then I see Provincetown and then wonder if any breakouts will come out of Lollapalooza happening last week.. and ugh.. college football/gridiron season is coming up, where some universities are still going ahead with 100% capacity crowds.. 🤢

BL.
Lolla has been a big conversation among the staff at work. I have yet to run into a doctor or nurse that I work with that says they (or anyone in their family) went. Heck, I’ve never even gone to it in past years (I just don’t think being in a crowd that large is fun), so I definitely wouldn’t go now 😂 The overall sentiment at work is that Chicago allowing Lolla was irresponsible. Doctors are actually recommending testing for anyone who went. It’ll be interesting to see what happens, because people managed to skirt the rules to get in. People got in showing BLANK vaccination cards…

The irony in it all is that our local news stations were advertising it all week/weekend. Then today, they put a story out talking about how irresponsible it is that Sturgis is happening. If anyone wonders why Lolla was allowed to happen…look no further than the reports about how much money Illinois made in pot sales while it was going on. This past week…Chicago and the state of Illinois let money trump health.
 
I want to seriously think that they would make the right decision...

... Then I see Provincetown and then wonder if any breakouts will come out of Lollapalooza happening last week.. and ugh.. college football/gridiron season is coming up, where some universities are still going ahead with 100% capacity crowds.. 🤢

BL.
I don’t even know what ‘Lollapalooza’ is. Sounds like some type of hippy fest that I would want no part in.

I mean, it just seems like everything is déjà vu, it was about this time last year leading into September, where things went horribly wrong for the majority of the country with schools, Labor Day was a major disruption for case uprising, ect.

Most importantly to me, if people stay educated and contribute to your community by taking the right measures. As the previous CDC Director said recently, ‘you can’t escape the Delta variant, it’s just a matter of time before it finds the unvaccinated’.
 
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