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Obviously it’s not something Apple would make for an iPad since it’s a calculator and Apple apparently would never make a calculator for the iPad

I guess they can’t figure out how to design a decent calculator for the iPad? That’s not something I’d be proud of if I believed it

Apple will only make a calculator for an iPad when the iPad supports multiple resizable floating apps, like a Mac.


"I guess they can’t figure out how to design a decent calculator for the iPad?"

Apple surely can, but like I sad above, that will only happen when iPad gets a macOS-like operating system.

Nobody wants a giant 8"x10" full screen iPad calculator. Unless you're visually impaired
 
The reply on the calculator app definitely comes off as a bit of a "Let them eat cake" answer.

Your customers want a default calculator app - you've got a nice one on the iPhone to port it from (this would not be a huge job) - give your customers what they're asking for. This is a small, no brainer thing to do, amazing it’s been going on all these years - and its damaging the company's reputation as an org that listens to its customers to an extent.
While it would be nice to have a separate calc app, most basic math can be done in the search bar on the Home Screen (never use the calc app on my phone as a result).
 
I feel like he was being extremely arrogant. Poor attitude!

Hope to God he does not become the CEO of Apple one day. I was not happy with his smart a** answers. Just acting like he is too good for everyone. Felt like he was talking down the whole time. Acting like he is the best there is and the best there will be. If he didn't want to be there. He should not have accepted the interview. Instead, he sat down acting like he rules the world. 😢
Unfortunately, that's a glimpse into what the workplace would be like under him.
 
I would like a USB C iPhone. Joe talks about e waste, what about all the lightning cables we will have to buy in the next year. †he sooner we get down to one standard, the sooner you can use one cable to rule them all.

I will grant the comment about micro USB and I preferred lightning to it. But USB C addresses my issues.
Do we need more than 100 watts of charging?
Do we need a still smaller form factor necessitating a smaller charger?
Do we need a faster transfer rate over cable? This is the only one that I think we might concern ourselves with in the next ten years.

So yeah, bring me the USBC iPhone.
I don't care about a calculator app on the iPad, but they have one on the Mac and on the Phone and the iPod touch, and even the Watch, so why not the iPad, if nothing else, to silence the people complaining.

That said, I still like Craig better than Joz.
 
Federighi seems like a really nice guy but that Joswiak guy seems a little bit too full of himself. Or is it just me?
it's definitely you coming to quick conclusions from watching a single interview with a person that is on the job at that moment.
 
Someone should tell Joswiak it's been years since there has been a "line" outside an Apple Store and yes even Apple's phones are boring. If you don't like the fact, then go invent something new.
And what would that be? Revolutionary innovations don't happen every couple of years. Smartphones are already maxed out and have little room for true innovation. Everybody is happy with them and there is no need for big changes atm.
 
Rather than people whining about the lack of calculator app on the iPad, tell us which one is the best?

There will be no consensus because, whilst the Calc App on the iPhone is simple, or scientific, everyone has a different need on the iPad.

I prefer a scratch pad and a tape with the calculator. Others will prefer something different. There’s a reason why there is an App Store.

If Apple made an app for the calculator, people would be constantly whinging how it’s not the best. Meanwhile Apple spend their time trying to make the best message system, camera, maps, news and other stuff. Apple don’t always make the best of those, so there will be no pleasing anybody with a calculator app.

An often phrase with referees/umpires is that you can only please 1/2 of the people 1/2 of the time. With Apple, you can only please 1% of the people 1% of the time. Or at least on these anti-apple forums.

Who's to say...
Yeah, people think they know these guys Personally from a 30 minute interview.
 
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My biggest complaint with Apple, as a 20-year customer, is their arrogance.
I didn’t realise transparency on product development was a prerequisite for a company. They seem arrogant to the ignorant because they refuse to answer the same old questions that are constantly asked. Craig tries to refuse the question humorously, Joz says it like it is.

What do you want them to say when you know they can’t say anything?
 
This is one of those few times you can genuinely say Steve Jobs would not act like this. His interviews give real substance and thought.

Joswiak answers were just smartass ones with no substance.
Agreed.

Craig knows how to dance but leaves you shaking your head sometimes.

Couldn't possibly make an iMessage app for Android that would benefit anyone? Would greatly benefit me as an iphone/Apple product user if android users had iMessage capabilities and I could use the full functionality of it with an Android user. Meanwhile how does the Android Apple Music app benefit Apple's own customers? Oh wait, that makes Apple money. Got it. :rolleyes:
 
Federighi seems like a really nice guy but that Joswiak guy seems a little bit too full of himself. Or is it just me?

^ Jaws has the arrogance of SJ nailed down but without the brilliance.

What a lot of bulls**t... All the responses were bland, stupid, non-concrete and self-serving. Joswiak is worst than I thought, Craig is a more likable guy, but still very cynical, as Apple usually is.
All of this…

I thought that when "Phil the Shill" Schiller left—who was SO full of 💩 that his eyes were even brown—Apple might… MIGHT take a turn for the better. Joz has stepped in and taken over "adequately", as in: Apple's PR learned nothing… he's terrible for the Apple community. If possible, he's worse than Schiller, because he has Z-E-R-O charisma. Just a straight up jerk.

As for CraigFed, well, it seems as if his HairForce popularity has gone to his brain. I used to like the guy… clearly, now, he's surrounded by such massive as sho lishness that he's been infected. He says things he has to know are completely false, but just laughs it off, and is presiding over a software QA maelstrom (akin to the trash piles in Idiocracy) with absolutely no shred of public humbleness. (If he had ANY humility he'd at least ADMIT there is internal debate/dispute about shipping Calculator.app with iPadOS. I mean, the history of the Calculator Desk Accessory for the Mac ALONE should show how mind-bendingly daft the decision to NOT SHIP is.)

Which pretty much rounds it out (for me) for this Exec Team. They learned the TERRIBLE lessons from Steve Jobs but NONE of the good ones (what little "good" lessons Jobs had to teach). Yes, all you Jobs fanboys are deluded… Steve was an A- # 1 a hole, through and through. I "watched" him for over 25 years, and know people who interacted with him personally. Greedier than Bill Gates, but definitely with much better taste, and had so much less tact it is legendary. You have a felon in Lisa Jackson, a Grade A jerk in Joz, a affable get-a-long guy in Craig who won't stand up for himself much less the community, and a no-vision bean-counter laughing all the way to the bank (with future politically driven goals in mind) in Tim. They clearly don't actually care about the environment, regardless of what drivel falls out of their mouths, and they'd stick it to their grandmas for an extra 5¢. You might think, "This cannot be what Steve had in mind when he put Tim Cook in place!", except if you knew Steve. Because if you did, truly, you'd know that it is EXACTLY what Steve had in mind; he was petty, and was in NO WAY going to let the Apple that followed him ever transcend his "greatness". He knew exactly who these dolts were, and put them there, IN SPITE of it. Good luck, community! (Oh, and those folks clamoring for Jony Ive to return? Gah. Have you ever heard the man speak? He talks like a runway supermodel fashionista… the words are English, but they make no actual sense… except to morons who don't understand "words". Every time I listened to him, I couldn't get Derek Zoolander out of my head for hours. Yet… "everyone" loved him. Good riddance. Hell, I'd sit and listen to Bono talk for an hour vs Ive. At least Bono now admits most of his nonsense was, in fact, nonsensical. Gotta credit the personal evolution!)


The thing that cracks me up that no one seems to get is...how did USB-C become the choice in the first place? Because of free market adoption. Companies were free to choose to adopt USB-C because it proved itself to be worthwhile, and in turn companies using it proved it to the world to a be valid choice. The free market did that. Not government.
This isn't really true. First off, it wasn't a "free" market, because consumers did not have an actual "free choice" in the connector system they wanted to use, they got what the manufactures allowed, gave them. Most importantly, as we've learned over the past few years, Apple decided to go "greedy" and not submit Lightning to the USB Implementers Forum, in which they were a participant. They could have! Instead, they decided it was better (for them) to flog their customer base with a proprietary ecosystem that they could "tax". And they did. Boy, did they! That is NOT "free market". And don't even start with the "but Lightning isn't as CAPABLE as USB Type C!" nonsense. The only people that say that are ignoramuses who don't have any passing electrical/mechanical engineering background. Because it simply is not true. Apple released a double-sided Lightning connector—which was an OBVIOUS thing that was going to happen, any intelligent EE could see from Day 1—but then… just… stopped using it and moved to Type C to gain the flourishing "ecosystem". (Any thoughts on whether that could have been the result of aforementioned "walled garden" cash extraction and taxation???) A double-sided Lightning connector has as many pins/lanes as Type C if you drop the legacy USB 2 pins that Type C requires… and who really needs legacy compatibility in a completely NEW connector system? USB 2.0 could have easily been provided by either a chip in the connector (ala the "active" Thunderbolt Type C plugs"; Lightning already has a chip in every plug!) or AltMode pin-switching at the port. Intel was the inventor of USB, so they pushed for the legacy requirement of 2.0. Dumb. And the power capabilities would have evolved just as they have with Type C… again… Apple just let it whither on the vine. Why? Because they were shaking down their walled-garden customers and did not care. "Our engineers"! they say… well, seems like Apple didn't even trust in their engineers enough to push the design that they developed to the forefront. Any undergrad mech engineer could explain why the Lighting connector system is superior… unless your goal is repair costs. Why didn't $1T Apple take the high road and give Lightning to the world?? Because, they saw dollar signs.

"Free market"? Nope. Short-sighted profit-taking Apple execs. Anyone taken a look lately at how rich they've become with all the stock comps and buybacks?? Meanwhile, they employees in Cupertino are some of the lowest paid/profit capita, their employees in retail are standing up unions to get reasonable wages, they're poisoning their own engineers with toxins because their buildings are sitting on defense contractor haz sites and flat lying about it, they're raising prices on everything while PR-ing that they're "Woke" and "helping" financially disadvantaged minorities and making sure the poors get either 2+ year old computers or half the performance, and they're filling landfills with perfectly good computers because… well… because they obviously can get away with it, thanks to a rabid fawning fanbase whom never holds them to account and facilitates interviews like this just to get to FEEL like they're on the "inside" of that tribe, if only for a moment.
 
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I think Jaws is kinda vacuous with his arguments, makes sense given that he's in marketing. Smoke and mirrors are sort of his bread and butter. He's kind of a cool dude, but also like that car salesman that will talk poorly about you behind a glass pane while on his lunch break making eye contact while you deliberate a car purchase at the round table by the complimentary coffee and snacks.

And Craig, while generally likable (though akin to Apple's Johnny Bravo or something, a caricature of what I imagine an executive to be, imo, evident by the legit LOL at his signature 'larger than life' cringe moments in the keynotes), just came across as a laughing goon here. 'You're really obsessed with the car huh'

'Wireless audio landscape?' - 'oh yeah AirPods are great'

it's almost making me feel like a sucker for investing in what they currently have out and sell now, by the way they're acting, even though I'm not gonna wait to turn into a skeleton for the next big break. I don't expect them to slip up and have some huge reveal but this offered almost no insight and was just a waste of 35 minutes...

Though two things I gathered out of it, from Jaws' remarks:
1- they don't really care about environmental footprint (has not been a shocker, they wanna ship more per pallet and get a pat on the back for their higher margins being 'sustainable' for the environment) and they also don't care about being obvious about it, it's just an argumentative fall back.

If they did, they wouldn't have migrated the base iPad to USB-C now. So much for all those lightning cables in a ditch now, never mind excessive packaging for those $8 usb-c to lightning pencil adapters for it. I get that it was going to be a compromise, but it's all a facade to me. There are so many things they could be doing better if that truly is one of their driving intents (beyond the obvious of profit margin, which is fine/expected).

The more interesting one:
2- it feels entirely likely to me after watching this, that EU will get a USB-C version and other markets will remain on lightning for iPhone until Apple decides 'the next best thing' consolidated (is being port-less a workaround for being within EU compliance?)

Just like how US only (?) has eSIM only and the rest of the world has eSIM+SIM. Apple is very capable of making a specific model for a specific market and they've proven that with iPhone 14.

Also- when and if Apple moves onto another proprietary port or port-less, don't all those lightning cables effectively 'end up in a ditch' (vs. if they went USB-C as Jaws is suggesting)?
1 - Apple cares about the environment which is why they use environmentally friendly materials like nylon to make their cables. No other company does this.
2 - That is unlikely. The AppleTV remote shipped with USB-C everywhere. If they made a change it would likely be to drop the port altogether outside of the EU.

I'd prefer everything to be USB-C, but there are small advantages to Lightning and USB-C might not always be the best option. There is no confusion over the charging and data transfer specs of the lightning cable. Apple has more ability to go after companies making out-of-spec cables with lightning. If they moved to USB-C they probably would have had to stick with it for a long time since people don't like having to buy new cables. Compatibility with existing wired Apple headphones which a lot of people still prefer. I'm sure Apple marketing used analytics to decide it was better to keep it on the iPhone. Apple has shown they will use USB-C when there is a big technical advantage on iPads and Macs. I'm sure Apple liked going back to a MagSafe connector on MacBook Pros because there is no way anyone would use a low wattage cable to charge with. If Apple wasn't forced to use USB-C on the iPhone, maybe they would have chosen to use a magnetic Smart Connector that is waterproof, and more efficient/compact then the puck wireless charger for example. All that said, I think going USB-C everywhere makes sense if they plan to stick with it for 10 years.
 
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“Let’s first take a look at USB-C -It’s the best I/O on an iPhone ever and we think you’re going to love it! ..aaaand we kinda hate that for a lot of reasons, all of them amounts of money.
But the E.U. has really been busting our balls about it so here you go -iPhone 15 with USB-C. Now plz **** and buy it and a bunch of Apple USB-C accessories. Thank you!”
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Apple doesn't need to abandon return to office, but it seems backwards not to leave the details up to individual teams. The world changed. It would make more sense to have the office more focused on in-person collaboration and have most work that requires focus done remotely. One team might want to do a work sprint for a week then meet in the office to collaborate on a design. Other teams might be highly collaborative and may need to meet in person all the time. For yet other teams it may make sense to work mostly remotely and just fly in for occasional retreats.

Most clients I work with are now permanently fully remote. Particularly large companies. If Apple doesn't embrace that enough, they are not going to be able to dog food the way people actually work these days and create products with the collaborative features people want.
 
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All of this…

I thought that when "Phil the Shill" Schiller left—who was SO full of 💩 that his eyes were even brown—Apple might… MIGHT take a turn for the better. Joz has stepped in and taken over "adequately", as in: Apple's PR learned nothing… he's terrible for the Apple community. If possible, he's worse than Schiller, because he has Z-E-R-O charisma. Just a straight up jerk.

As for CraigFed, well, it seems as if his HairForce popularity has gone to his brain. I used to like the guy… clearly, now, he's surrounded by such massive as sho lishness that he's been infected. He says things he has to know are completely false, but just laughs it off, and is presiding over a software QA maelstrom (akin to the trash piles in Idiocracy) with absolutely no shred of public humbleness. (If he had ANY humility he'd at least ADMIT there is internal debate/dispute about shipping Calculator.app with iPadOS. I mean, the history of the Calculator Desk Accessory for the Mac ALONE should show how mind-bendingly daft the decision to NOT SHIP is.)
Why so mean? Seriously. Judging people by their hair? Wow!
 
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Someone should tell Joswiak it's been years since there has been a "line" outside an Apple Store and yes even Apple's phones are boring. If you don't like the fact, then go invent something new.
The lines diminished because the preordering process became so much easier, not because iPhones are boring. There is no reason to stand in a line, hoping you might get one of the phones they received, when the phone you ordered is guaranteed to be there.
 
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A customer hostile approach to doing business. I could have a USB C on my iPhone 14 Pro now, but no, they have to wait to be forced.
 
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What can’t you do on a phone now, that you could do with USB-C?
I can't directly plug in a USB C, so that I can charge the phone with one charger and cable along with my Mac, iPad, mouse, keyboard, wireless headphones, bluetooth speaker, battery pack, and Kindle. The iPhone is the only thing left on lightning. This makes a different especially when traveling.

And even if I use an adapter just for the iPhone, I still cannot transfer large files like ProRAW at real USB C rate.

This just from top of mind. I am sure others can think of more issues.
 
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