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I just don't see why they went the extra step, everything could have been done using the same old arrow cursor.
Apple is blurring the lines between iPad and MacOS
 
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Agree. I'd get the new keyboard/stand.

$300 is pricey. But if it works well after trying the combination out, I'll only cry once. If not, I'll send it back.

I have the same philosophy with my woodworking tools. As an example, for rulers and combination squares I'll only buy Starrett. They're old-school and the company goes back to the late 1880s. A 12" or 24" hook rule is pricey as I can buy an imported knock-off far cheaper. But Starrett rules and combination squares are more readable, durable, and a joy to use. Every time I pick one up. Cry once, only when purchasing.
This.

If you are actually using your iPad Pro to earn money, then the $300 is going to be paid for in a few billable hours. Why would you not want this purpose-built tool with superior engineering if you spend your whole working life using it?
 
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Just wondering, so some one who owns a trackpad or mouse and external keyboard, maybe an Apple Pencil and a working iPad touchscreen (!) is not exactly target group of that new shiny device, no?
 
Still can't see how they want to have the iPad take the place of laptops, and Macbooks in the future. $300 for a keyboard, I mean come on.
 
Look, this magic keyboard is awesome. No doubt. I'm just so frustrated by Apple.

The keyboard starts at $300. The iPad Pro starts at $800. That's $1,100 before tax for a compromised iPadOS laptop experience.

You are better off buying a laptop and a cheaper iPad.
"You" may be better off, but I don't see how you can speak for everyone else?

If a laptop and cheaper iPad is a better value proposition for you and your work situation, by all means use your alternative option.

Just don't speak for "me".
 
I guess we know how the WWDC “Keynote” will be. I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple makes this the new announcement format going forward. It really works.
I completely agree the new format works but I think you still lose a little of the excitement factor of having a live, in person audience. I suspect Apple will go back to live audiences after the pandemic passes but only time will tell.
 
I completely agree the new format works but I think you still lose a little of the excitement factor of having a live, in person audience. I suspect Apple will go back to live audiences after the pandemic passes but only time will tell.

I am glad he has more charisma than Mark Cerny from Sony and they went for a room with a window... and stayed away from adding CGI heads to suggest an audience.
 
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At least Apple included a $999 stand for no extra charge. Actually, a floating stand is impressive, will have to test the sturdiness and weight of the keyboard/trackpad/case/usb charger/ stand. If it works well, I'll get one.
 
Not sure how the floating keyboard stand charges the iPad. Does it have wireless charging now? That would be huge for those of us who use iPads for Kiosks. We could then just have a wireless charging mount in the back with no wires, just a clean sheet of glass kiosk. I will buy a lot of these, if that's possible.

just like the current Smart Keyboard, there is no battery or ports. the keyboard doesn't charge the iPad, it gets power FROM the iPad. you'll have to stick a usb c cable into the iPad like you currently do. Its the only way to charge.
 
When I purchased a keyboard for my 2018 iPad Pro 11“ it was frustrating because every keyboard had significant compromises to how I wanted to use the device. Some keyboards were great for typing but lacked backligthing or portability. Others were too heavy and bulky or prevented a quick transition to tablet/stylus use. Others required too much of a neck strain when using it on your lap. And all the Bluetooth keyboards sometimes experienced significant typing delays when on group conference calls where someone is sharing a desktop or application and I’m using a Bluetooth headset.

This new keyboard overcomes all those obstacles. It’s naturally raised reducing neck strain with multiple viewing angles. There’s no separate battery to add weight and bulk. There’s a USB C for charging that leaves the native USB C port for other devices. It pops off quickly when you need it to function like a tablet. They keys are backlit for low light use (like on an early morning or late night flight). You don’t need to think about charging two devices. It uses scissor mechanics for a more positive feedback. And it doesn’t use Bluetooth which means that you won’t experience the loss of keyboard responsiveness when on a conference call and I’m using my AirPod Pros.

And it comes with a trackpad for precise control when in laptop mode.

It’s worth the $299 if it means I can overcome many of the compromises with lesser keyboards. I can’t wait.
 
When I purchased a keyboard for my 2018 iPad Pro 11“ it was frustrating because every keyboard had significant compromises to how I wanted to use the device. Some keyboards were great for typing but lacked backligthing or portability. Others were too heavy and bulky or prevented a quick transition to tablet/stylus use. Others required too much of a neck strain when using it on your lap. And all the Bluetooth keyboards sometimes experienced significant typing delays when on group conference calls where someone is sharing a desktop or application and I’m using a Bluetooth headset.

This new keyboard overcomes all those obstacles. It’s naturally raised reducing neck strain with multiple viewing angles. There’s no separate battery to add weight and bulk. There’s a USB C for charging that leaves the native USB C port for other devices. It pops off quickly when you need it to function like a tablet. They keys are backlit for low light use (like on an early morning or late night flight). You don’t need to think about charging two devices. It uses scissor mechanics for a more positive feedback. And it doesn’t use Bluetooth which means that you won’t experience the loss of keyboard responsiveness when on a conference call and I’m using my AirPod Pros.

And it comes with a trackpad for precise control when in laptop mode.

It’s worth the $299 if it means I can overcome many of the compromises with lesser keyboards. I can’t wait.
The only negative is it appears it might not fold in half like a book. Would be annoying when you want to switch to tablet mode on a train or something...
 
no. there is usbc port on the hinge and the stand charges and connects via the smart connector. I really don't know where you got the idea that the iPad will wirelessly charge on the stand. a little logical thinking goes a long way
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Thanks for the response. Just love guys like you. I ask a question on tech site forum because I don't know the answer (I know... strange). If my question was so dumb to you, then don't answer it. I didn't ask for a critique of my logic by a know it all that doesn't even know the basic facts of the device. I'll break down my logic in baby steps for you. Contrary to what you said, Apple states that there is a "PASS THROUGH" power usb c port that charges the iPad so that you can use the one on your iPad for accessories. From every photo and video that I've seen, only the back surface of the iPad magnetically attaches to the stand with all of the sides being exposed. I thought the smart connector is on one of the sides so its not touching the stand. So I asked how is the stand PASSING POWER over to the iPad. Is it possible they added wireless charging? I get there may some logical explanation of how its done without wireless charging but I also don't think its the dumbest question ever asked on this forum. I get you're a smart guy but in the future maybe a little more humble when responding to peoples questions.
 
What baffles me about so many comments on this forum is when people make sweeping generalizations about a product's usefulness (or even whether it should exist at all) based on their particular use case. The iPad is a couple weeks shy of its 10th anniversary, and people are still debating whether it's a "real computer" and whether it can do "real work." "It depends on your needs" seems like such a simple concept to me. (I distinguish such absolutism from constructive debate on how well a product or feature does what it's designed to do, and how it could be improved.)

Anyway, I find the iPad Pro/Magic Keyboard combination intriguing. I have a 27" 2019 iMac, which I use for the heavy lifting (multimedia as a hobby and in support of my wife's side business) in my home office; a 2015 13" MBP that was my main computer prior to the iMac, and which I now use when I need portability and when I'm brainstorming with my wife in the living room; and a 2018 9.7" iPad, which I use for web browsing, basic edits in Photos, reading email and writing short responses, and watching streaming media.

When the time comes, I can see replacing the MBP and iPad with an iPad Pro/Magic Keyboard/Apple Pencil combination, since I also enjoy drawing and painting. The limitations of the iPad and iOS wouldn't bother me, because I'd still have my iMac when I need macOS capabilities. I'd replace two portable devices (MBP and iPad) with one, and I'd be able to do everything I currently do on those. I'd also have the added capabilities of the Apple Pencil. It will be a couple years before I can justify replacing my current MBP and iPad -- and who knows how the iPad and iOS will have evolved by then?

As for whether the Magic Keyboard is "too expensive" -- well, the market will decide. As others have pointed out, if you're using it to make money, and it will make you more productive, then it will pay for itself. If it's just for fun, and you want it and can afford it, then go for it. If it's just for fun, and you want it but can't afford it... well, that's true of many things in life. Right now, I want it but can't afford it.
 
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just like the current Smart Keyboard, there is no battery or ports. the keyboard doesn't charge the iPad, it gets power FROM the iPad. you'll have to stick a usb c cable into the iPad like you currently do. Its the only way to charge.
The new Magic Keyboard includes an USB-C connector, it will charge the iPad leaving the iPads USB-C available for accessories.
 
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It's when typing that you most appreciate the precision and of a trackpad.

Ergo = therefore.
In this sentence from Craig it doesn’t match. I really wish Apple employees, especially executives would Stop shortening words in an effort to sound hip/cool when their beginning to sound like idiots. Stop ruining language like a pre-teen. There is no use for this.
 
Too stodgy and corporate, and all of that for Craig to geek over drag & drop and multi finger gestures? Oh for the love of Steve.

That was more like watching a product demo on Kickstarter than a fully fledged Apple product.

If there's one thing I'd like to see is whether that extra USB-C port is a fully functional second I/O for the iPad. THAT would be game changing.
I think something more subdued was called for at this time.
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Let’s give them some credit for the design - there’s been a lot of speculation about how they’d overcome the challenges and issues with other keyboards and other products. But they’ve come up with something which is innovative - the adjustability without resorting to a kick stand is one. It’s got backlighting too.

But the price?? And no function keys?

As others have said, by the time you buy a Pro and this keyboard, it’s MacBook money. I think there’s a lot of positives for iOS over macOS (assuming the apps you need are there), but its pretty expensive.

You get two computers in one as you can just detach the keyboard, but if you’ve gone for the larger iPad, it’s not as comfortable to use around the house as the smaller ones. So maybe a laptop and a big standard iPad is a better combo?
True but people like Logitech etc will make cheaper iPad trackpad keyboards.
 
From every photo and video that I've seen, only the back surface of the iPad magnetically attaches to the stand with all of the sides being exposed. I thought the smart connector is on one of the sides so its not touching the stand. So I asked how is the stand PASSING POWER over to the iPad.
There is a smart connector on the back of the iPad. It's plainly visible in these Apple photos:

 
There is a smart connector on the back of the iPad. It's plainly visible in these Apple photos:

ahhh thanks chabig. that makes sense. I don't own the previous gen iPad Pro. Was it moved to the back in this new model or was it there all the time? I swear when I seen one of the older models, it was at the bottom. It being in the back is great. If this was at the back in the previous gen, does anyone know if someone sells a frameless wall mount that charges via the back smart connector? If it was moved to the back, hopefully someone thinks of making one. A lot of us use these for kiosks and displays for controlling automation systems. The current ugly framed enclosures are just that, ugly. It would be nice to have a floating piece of glass on the wall.
 
It has been on the back since the redesign with flat edges in 2018. Prior to that, iPads had curved edges and it was on the long side, never the bottom. The easiest way to see it is to go to Amazon and look at product photos.
 
The new pros look great, but the magic keyboard is something I’ve wanted forever. The floating idea seems very well thought out and I love that it charges also. The price is too high though and my current set up works fine with a mouse, keyboard, and current Pro. It’s just not enough for me to upgrade to at this point. Keyboard will be tough to pass up on though.
 
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