Credible Leaker Says New iMac to Feature 'Really Big' Display Larger Than Current 27-inch Model

[Gudi]

There are a number of instances where you still need to max out ram. Professions like video editing, photo editing, developers, 3-D rendering, etc. can all require more than 16GB of RAM. On an M1 MBA with 16GB I can hit 100% usage and get low memory warnings in an IDE relatively easy. My iMac will require a minimum of 32, possibly 64.

You’re throwing around meaningless words of a bygone era. You need to explain why SoC architecture, fast SSD drives and large super fast caches for processing (on the chip!) can’t solve your problem?

A problem you fail to understand in the first place! There’s no such thing as low memory anymore. It’s the job of macOS to fill RAM to the max, no matter how much you have and make memory available if needed. That’s why Activity Monitor has a chart for Memory Pressure not Memory Usage.

Anyway, even if memory pressure on your system is high, the data is loaded from a fast SSD, not a spinning drive with a mechanical read-write head. This bottleneck has been eliminated. It’s a thing of the past like the Gigahertz race.

 

[rpmurray]

TAKE MY MONEYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Sorry, the IRS got there first.

 

[neomorpheus]

That's one thing I like about our 2017 iMac - it offers USB-C ports AND also USB-A ports (and a SDXC slot and an Ethernet jack and *gasp!* a headphone jack).

On the other hand, continuing to locate the ports on the back has always been form over function. I'm sure we're not the only ones who immediately bought a USB hub to solve a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

Thank you!

One of the things that put me off about using apple products is the insane cult members that blindly defend every single nonsense driven apple decisions or actions that in cases, ends up affecting your basic needs of a product.

Why its ok that we need to purchase a hub just to obtain a couple of more convenient and accessible ports on an already very expensive device?

 

[satchmo]

What are the chances the iMac’s display will be height adjustable?
Yes, the XDR has that, but the stand itself is $1K.

I’m not sure Apple will make the same ergonomic features available at a lower price point.

 

[MacPoulet]

Apple - don't mess this up.

iMacs are desktops...
Don't gimp the ports on the back just to make it "look good from behind in a Doctors office"

Offer them all - and lots of them - even some legacy USB-A please -- make them easier to access also.
Desktops and Dongles should never become a thing (barring weird edge cases)

Bring back SCSI! And serial. And ADB. And...

 

[neomorpheus]

Convenience really. Mac mini also misses a webcam, good stereo speakers, microphone.

That convenience comes at the price of limiting your options to whatever apple decides to use.

and when one of those convenient items break, you are at the mercy of apple and as to the mood of a Genius if your device is out of warranty.

trust me, already happened a couple of times, with a MBP, iPad and 27” iMac with a broken stand.

 

[fishkorp]

You’re throwing around meaningless words of a bygone era. You need to explain why SoC architecture, fast SSD drives and large super fast caches for processing (on the chip!) can’t solve your problem?

A problem you fail to understand in the first place! There’s no such thing as low memory anymore. It’s the job of macOS to fill RAM to the max, no matter how much you have and make memory available if needed. That’s why Activity Monitor has a chart for Memory Pressure not Memory Usage.

Anyway, even if memory pressure on your system is high, the data is loaded from a fast SSD, not a spinning drive with a mechanical read-write head. This bottleneck has been eliminated. It’s a thing of the past like the Gigahertz race.

I don’t think you’re understanding. Technical buzzwords about SoC engineering is fine in theory. Many professionals live in the real world and need to use what is available to us, right now. When an application says “sorry, I can’t do that, there’s no free RAM” that’s a real world problem I run into on an M1 machine with 16GB RAM. I do not run into the same issue on an Intel machine with 32GB. I can’t just call Adobe, Autodesk, JetBrains, Microsoft, Apple (just some of the apps in my regular workflow) and say “hey, optimize this to take full advantage of Apple Si SoC please.” The amount of RAM is actually blocking me from my regular workflow on that particular machine. It’s not a holdover from years ago, it’s a cold hard fact. I need to quit 1 or more applications to continue doing something else I need to do.

I understand completely how it works. I design and build small hardware for a living now. But I also know that doesn’t mean all of the software people need in their daily lives are built to take advantage of that yet. In some cases, it may take years. For those of us that require specific tools, more RAM is indeed necessary.

 

[Benjamin Nabulsi]

Well, I can't wait to upgrade after the release of the first version. in Mac, it's never been good to be an early adopter.
also, I've just maxed out my 2020 iMac, I'm good for a couple of years.

 

[Cosmosent]

If up-to 16 High-Perf cores is true, the chip's Performance Controller, should, but probably will NOT, get special attention.

Case in point:

The A10 processor was rock solid, with its simplified Perf Controller design.

The Perf Controller was fancier in the A11, & more so in the A12 ...

but, they did NOT test ALL Use Case before committing to silicon, & when the XR hit the market, it became obvious on Day ONE that the A12 had a very serious Performance Controller Bug !

This Bug has a name too, its referred to as the "Phil Schiller Perf Controller Bug".

It made it thru TWO generations of Apple's A-series chips before Apple's R&D was aware of it, & subsequently fixed it !

Like the A10, the A13 is rock solid !

Need Proof that this even happened ?

Google ALL of Apple's comments regarding the Performance Controller design in their A-series chips.

And notice the timeline !

They stopped talking about it for a reason.

And now you know the reason !

 

[qoop]

Bring back SCSI! And serial. And ADB. And...

And TosLink… (I liked that one)

 

[Gudi]

When an application says “sorry, I can’t do that, there’s no free RAM” that’s a real world problem. I run into on an M1 machine with 16GB RAM. I do not run into the same issue on an Intel machine with 32GB. [...] The amount of RAM is actually blocking me from my regular workflow on that particular machine. It’s not a holdover from years ago, it’s a cold hard fact. I need to quit 1 or more applications to continue doing something else I need to do.

Sounds to me as if the idiot who programmed your software (Adobe) requires a minimum amount of free RAM. That’s the opposite of a hardware limitation.

 

[qoop]

What are the chances the iMac’s display will be height adjustable?
Yes, the XDR has that, but the stand itself is $1K.

I’m not sure Apple will make the same ergonomic features available at a lower price point.

Even better than that, it'll be glued shut.

 

[sirozha]

Thank you!

One of the things that put me off about using apple products is the insane cult members that blindly defend every single nonsense driven apple decisions or actions that in cases, ends up affecting your basic needs of a product.

Why its ok that we need to purchase a hub just to obtain a couple of more convenient and accessible ports on an already very expensive device?

You think Apple has insane cult members? Try Tesla; those are radicals.

 

[jerryk]

I am wondering why i woud choose this over a Mac Mini with a monitor of whatever size i choose?

".. the new iMac will come equipped with next-generation Apple silicon chips. Internally, Apple is testing chips with as many as 16 high-performance cores and four efficiency cores..."

Also, nothing prevents you from adding a second monitor of whatever size you choose to an iMac.

 

[sirozha]

I don’t think you’re understanding. Technical buzzwords about SoC engineering is fine in theory. Many professionals live in the real world and need to use what is available to us, right now. When an application says “sorry, I can’t do that, there’s no free RAM” that’s a real world problem I run into on an M1 machine with 16GB RAM. I do not run into the same issue on an Intel machine with 32GB. I can’t just call Adobe, Autodesk, JetBrains, Microsoft, Apple (just some of the apps in my regular workflow) and say “hey, optimize this to take full advantage of Apple Si SoC please.” The amount of RAM is actually blocking me from my regular workflow on that particular machine. It’s not a holdover from years ago, it’s a cold hard fact. I need to quit 1 or more applications to continue doing something else I need to do.

I understand completely how it works. I design and build small hardware for a living now. But I also know that doesn’t mean all of the software people need in their daily lives are built to take advantage of that yet. In some cases, it may take years. For those of us that require specific tools, more RAM is indeed necessary.

Which application says, "sorry, I can't do that, there's no free RAM"?

 

[jerryk]

You think Apple has insane cult members? Try Tesla; those are radicals.

Agreed. Own Model X and 3, and SolarRoof with Powerwalls. Also a lot of shares in both Apple and Tesla. And Microsoft.

 

[ElectricPotato]

Everyone needs a hobby.

Exactly. I'm 99% sure the original poster does not spend every moment of every day doing things of epic importance. If they did, they would not be posting here .

 

[svish]

Good to have bigger screen and with less bezels. Hopefully in rose gold too

 

[portland-dude]

I also plan on purchasing new external apple monitors if they ship at same time. So literally. All my money.

Dude. Ew. So, I’m curious. Are your posts meant to come across as elite or just desperate? Either way, I say again, ew.

 

[Scarboose]

“All in one” is one of the main reasons the iMac sells so well though, in my opinion.
You can have a very powerful machine, great speakers, great mic, good enough webcam, and one of the best displays out there with ONE cord! This leaves your ports open too!

One of my biggest gripes is when your tower/laptop is on but your monitor won’t wake up and you have to press extra buttons on it to wake it up. Minor, but still annoying!

My wallet is ready, Apple!

 

[Mr.Blacky]

iMac Pro in a Mac Pro design language with a 24" 4:3 Display which you can adjust height, tilt, swivel left and right and change from landscape to portrait orientation. 🤔

 

[krfr]

I sure hope they create a consumer Thunderbolt Display with this design as well!

 

[jlocker]

Looks good for a basic desktop computer, with basic processing and basic graphics. I would rather have a Mac mini tower where I can do some upgrading along the life of a product. Spending $2000 to $4000 dollars on a desktop that will not have upgradability to me sound like a waste of money. After the third year you are like well I need some more ram memory, sorry you can not do that. Oh I would like some more SSD internal storage, sorry you can not do that. Oh I would like better graphics GPU with more memory, sorry you can not do that. It might work for a phone or a tablet, do not think it is a great idea for a desktop computer.

Will I purchase another Mac from my current 2019 MacBook Pro 16? Yes I will but Apple will have to have some convincing products with performance and upgradability. Oh I would like to have Thunderbolt 5 with a PCI card add on, sorry you can not do that.

 

[joecomo]

Personally I’d love to see a 32-34” class display. If such thing as a retina style ultra wide were to be put on one, that would be amazing. Though I’m sure it would have a price tag to match.

Upgraded from my Late 2013 MacBook Pro to a 2020 M1 mini plus 34” 3440x1440 Ultrawide for a combined total of a little under $900. I’m positive there’s not going to be a 34” iMac for that price. But if it could slide in where the 27” model fits with the slimmer bezels. I could see it. 32” with ultrawide as wishful thinking.

If there would be a larger iMac, it would certainly have a better resolution than that (6K I suppose) - that is not even 4K.

This is just a conventional non-retina screen drawn out horizontally.

I do not want to say there are no use cases for this - but that is old tech that you would not get from Apple.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

What are the chances the iMac’s display will be height adjustable?
Yes, the XDR has that, but the stand itself is $1K.

I’m not sure Apple will make the same ergonomic features available at a lower price point.

Main reason the Pro Stand costs $1000 is the fact it is a "pro product". Or do you think this, for example, is really worth $950?

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