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No one mention Aspect Ratio?

Why not go with the MacBook 16:10? All current iMac ( and Pro XDR ) are still on 16:9

Why not use other Aspect Ratio like 3:2, 4:3, 5:3 Or wider like 21:9? Or tend towards the Golden Ratio of 1.62 which is something slightly over 16:10
 
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Check out the Mac Mini forum - I bet 1/2 of the posts are about displays not waking, or not displaying a picture at all. I don' t know how monitor compatibility is such an issue when Linux, Windows can do it!

And I'd love a 27" monitor, at 5K like the imac so I could run at a legible 2560x1440 and not have performance issues, clarity issues. I'm a huge mac mini fan and currently own one, and have owned them in the past, but I admit being tempted by the iMac. I know the integrated display will be compatible.
My previous desktop was a 2011 iMac and then I’ve been exclusively using a MBP for the last 6 years. So now that I’m working from home again I went ahead and bought a mini. And while I have no complaint about the mini itself, I do have a big plate of computer cable spaghetti and it’s so off putting. I miss the simplicity and elegance of the iMac with everything neatly built into it.
 
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I am wondering why i woud choose this over a Mac Mini with a monitor of whatever size i choose?

I already have chosen the Mac Mini M1. That goes nicely with a beautiful 4K LG monitor with a beautiful large slim display. Extremely happy with it. Can’t wait forever. In a few years to come, when I upgrade may consider iMac. That being said, I am very excited for the new redesigned iMac and can’t wait to be announced.
 
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I remember circa 2000 looking at the screen on my brother's desktop - must have been a 21" CRT Studio Display - and thinking how the amount of screen real estate seemed a bit absurd (large) - at least compared to the 12" LCD on my TAM.

Whilst I'll admit that was maybe a bit premature, I do think there is a limit to the size of screen you really want to be sitting in front of - at desktop distance. I've used a Samsung 32" LCD TV as a monitor before, and it's just not comfortable.
 
My previous desktop was a 2011 iMac and then I’ve been exclusively using a MBP for the last 6 years. So now that I’m working from home again I went ahead and bought a mini. And while I have no complaint about the mini itself, I do have a big plate of computer cable spaghetti and it’s so off putting. I miss the simplicity and elegance of the iMac with everything neatly built into it.
I am similar. Although there were [and still are things I didn't like about my iMac Pro] the clean desktop was one of the things I loved - super minimal.
 
Two points on this topic:

#1: With Apple Silicon, the iMac should be able to do everything that Apple TV can do and just as simple. In fact, TVOS should be part of what makes every iMac an iMac. No reason for them to be running separate operating systems anymore. Functionality, at least for those specific things should be largely identical.

#2: Prices for the Apple TV should dramatically drop as well as for the Mac Mini as these are now less perceived as actual computers or computer like devices and more like cheap appliances. If Apple really wants to make Apple TV+ grow, make the device a loss leader into Apple Mac buying. Any one who has a cheap Apple TV will definitely consider replacing their clunky old Win PC with an iMac that does all that and far more. Apple sorely needs a low end device to get onto the real playing field and this is a golden opportunity, but I don't see Tim cook seeing the weeds through the trees on this. He's more of a cross the Ts and dot the I's, balance the accounting line kind of guy, not a visionary thinking ahead or taking a gamble.

I hope I'm wrong though.
 
I bought an iMac 18 months ago, and without an SSD and on Mojave that thing is slower than my first iMac G4. Drives me nuts, thank God it's not my main Mac.
 
Don't kill me but...

Is there even a market for iMacs? 99.99% of people can get by and do their job 100% on Macbooks or MacMinis especially with the new M1s. People who need serious raw power can go for the PRO.

This leaves a very thin opening for the iMac. Prosumer?
 
Still confused about where the 'non tech angst' was that you talked about earlier...

Another point I forgot to make is on cost: add up a high-quality monitor, possibly some speakers and a webcam because those are often inadequate or nonexistent on third-party monitors, a keyboard, a mouse, and a comparably-spec'd Mac mini and you are pushing way over iMac's cost territory. The long-term advantage to the mini is that you can upgrade / replace either the display or the computer separately, which you obviously can't do with an all-in-one.

Also you can attach more than one computer to your separate display. This is the main reason for me to hang on to my late 2009 27” iMac. I can attach my under the desk PC to it and have it serve as monitor+speakers for the PC as well, giving me a vastly nicer desktop than if I would need a separate monitor for the PC. The space for two high quality monitors and moving from one to the other just isn’t available.
If the new iMacs don’t allow me to attach another computer to it, I either have to go the (somewhat underpowered for the rest of the decade) Mac Mini route, (or give up on having a separate Mac altogether). A BigMini would be a great, but less visually appealing option.
 
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Don't kill me but...

Is there even a market for iMacs? 99.99% of people can get by and do their job 100% on Macbooks or MacMinis especially with the new M1s. People who need serious raw power can go for the PRO.

This leaves a very thin opening for the iMac. Prosumer?
Are you really asking whether ther is a gap in the market between the £700 mini and the £5,500 pro?!
There’ll be a definite market for a machine with more power than the mini, built in to a high quality display.
 
There's enough thermal headroom in a Mac mini to support some form of M1X chipset though. Will be interesting to see if Apple do that to replace the upper SKU which is still Intel for now.

Totally agree! Considering M1 Mac Mini is half empty inside and the current Intel Mac Mini has a CPU with a TDP of 65 watts, there is no reason a rumoured 35-45 watt M1X will have thermal restrictions in a Mac Mini chassis.
 
Don't kill me but...

Is there even a market for iMacs? 99.99% of people can get by and do their job 100% on Macbooks or MacMinis especially with the new M1s. People who need serious raw power can go for the PRO.

This leaves a very thin opening for the iMac. Prosumer?


The imac is Apple’s most popular desktop Mac.

Next up, unsurprisingly, is the iMac. iMacs are being used disproportionately by pro users in recent years. Whether that’s due to the pace of updates or to the increased capability and much wider spread of the definition of “pro” is in the air. Likely a combination of both.

I predict that the imac will remain as the default go-to Mac for the mass consumer, and for pro users who can get by with the bundled 5k display, and don’t have the budget for a Mac Pro.
 
Don't kill me but...

Is there even a market for iMacs? 99.99% of people can get by and do their job 100% on Macbooks or MacMinis especially with the new M1s. People who need serious raw power can go for the PRO.

This leaves a very thin opening for the iMac. Prosumer?
I think you have it the wrong way around. I think it’s generally accepted that Apple sells more iMacs than Mac minis. And we can infer that from their track record of their investment in the iMac over time compared to the mini.
 
Don't kill me but...

Is there even a market for iMacs? 99.99% of people can get by and do their job 100% on Macbooks or MacMinis especially with the new M1s. People who need serious raw power can go for the PRO.

This leaves a very thin opening for the iMac. Prosumer?

Graphic designers / video editors love the iMac. And you can get a good one for 3k. Still expensive compared to a comparable PC, but that is irrelevant as it’s tax deductible / client chargeable
What Us hard to Understand is anyone that would spec out a iMac to £8,800!

What they should do - but never will is a Mac mini dockable monitor / stand. So a really good screen where the mini docks on the bottom of the stand / or on the back even keeping a slick look with no wires.

Then when you want to upgrade in 2/3 years you just swap it out and keep the monitor.
 
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That’s the thing, the Mac mini only goes up to 16gb ram, for heavy video editing, after effects and 3d modelling you really need 32gb and beyond. As well as dedicated gpus, or something heavier than what’s in the mini at the moment.

There’s no way my work warrants a mac pro, so for the time being the 2019 MBP will suffice. Needless to say, this iMac should bridge the enormous gap between mini and pro.
 
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A 32” retina powerful iMac with more RAM would be useful to me.This or Mini Pro with more performance and memory.

Currently I’m using an iMac 27“ fully spec’ed from 2020 paired with a 32” display.
 
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