I don't see the massive appeal of a bezel-less display this big. I mean I currently use a 32" LG 4K display as a second monitor on my 2019 MBP. It's a big slab of monitor floating above my desk. The bezel really doesn't interfere with anything. In fact it provides a nice visual border to stuff behind my monitor (sort of like trying to read text over a multicolored background). Sure if you're making a video wall (12K?) it matters, but for most normal people thin/no-bezel really doesn't apply for a massive desktop monitor. yes for video editors and the like that might matter, but lets be honest that is a small demographic. id much rather have no dongles versus thin/no-bezel any day
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Credible Leaker Says New iMac to Feature 'Really Big' Display Larger Than Current 27-inch Model
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The iMac really does seem like the perfect Mac model to get a whole new design as its first entry into the Apple Silicon side of this transition. It didn't make sense with the MacBook Air or the 2-port 13" MacBook Pro. I'd argue that the Mac mini would've also been a ripe candidate for this, but that particular model's inclusion into the first wave definitely was the messiest part of it.
For one the quality of the panels in the iMacs is exceptional. There are very few consumer monitors on the market that match it - and if they do they are quite pricey. Another positive about the iMac is just that it is 'all-in-one.' Compared to a Mac mini + monitor there are less cables, and almost all monitors are less attractive than the iMac's design. Design and appearance and cleanliness are important to many. The iMac, due to its thermals, is also more powerful than the mini.. for those that need that sort of capability.
Most people don’t need 6K resolution. They barely need the 2K resolution available on current, 27” iMacs. 4K resolution, though, is mainstream enough for most people in the market for an iMac and the larger, 32” format would provide exceptional functionality for the majority of use cases without breaking the bank. A 24” 2K monitor would more than fill in the lower tier use cases.
Rather than an all in one design though, I would rather see a federated monitor where the monitor provides TB4 and USB4 Type C hub functionality. I want a clean, adapter free desktop. Also, the Apple Silicon CPU/GPU tech is far more likely to evolve and be replaced faster than any contemporary monitor or expansion bus design. Keep them independent for now until they are, once again, evolving at the same pace.
Especially when monitor and external expansion bus tech are relatively stable and CPU/GPU tech has just been set free.
Agree...Not only Apple nerds but MUST HAVE DEEP POCKETS!!!
I keep hoping Apple will announce new iMacs as I need a new Mac within the next couple of months. Right now I’m planning on an M1 Mac Mini but am willing to go with an iMac if it’s worth it. The worst part of this 2 year transfer is not wanting to buy an Intel Mac, but not wanting to buy the current M1 just because it’s the only thing available. I wish Apple would have had more devices ready in the first few months.
The current 27" is about 30.5" diagonal measured from corner to corner including the chin. I then measured on the diagonal of the current screen and assuming a 32" screen with the same dimensions as ratio as the current screen, the width width of the screen would be about 3" wider than the 27" including the bezels. So adding narrow bezels the total width would probably be around 4" to 5" wider than the current 27". Given the chin, the height wouldn't need to change much. With an arm chip cooling should be less of an issue so I'd expect a 32" to be noticeably wider, but not hugely so. I think a 24" becomes much more desirable than the 21.5". For personal use I think I'd be happy with the 24".
I don’t mind the ports being on the back so long as there is a way to access them easily. Why not implement an inter interface port design where by you can swivel or hinge the access ports rather than the whole monitor. Alternately, build the ports into stand bottom for easy access.
Apple Silicon has rendered the thermal issue almost completely moot. A mini sized box with heat liberty based transpiration cooling is more than capable of managing the heat load and temperature related heat density.
With education discount, the M1 Mini + LG 4k Ultrafine is $1,748 Canadian. Throw in $214 for mouse and keyboard and we've got $1,962 CAD.
Entry-level 4k iMac is $1,629 CAD.
Will be interesting to see where they price a 24" Apple Silicon iMac.
Entry-level 4k iMac is $1,629 CAD.
Will be interesting to see where they price a 24" Apple Silicon iMac.
"really big" to me would suggest a 32" - but surely not 6K and surely not the same XDR panel. If the starting price is £2k (currently it's £1800), it will probably be a 30" 5K maybe?
Convenience really. Mac mini also misses a webcam, good stereo speakers, microphone.
Still confused about where the 'non tech angst' was that you talked about earlier...
Another point I forgot to make is on cost: add up a high-quality monitor, possibly some speakers and a webcam because those are often inadequate or nonexistent on third-party monitors, a keyboard, a mouse, and a comparably-spec'd Mac mini and you are pushing way over iMac's cost territory. The long-term advantage to the mini is that you can upgrade / replace either the display or the computer separately, which you obviously can't do with an all-in-one.
I don't think the aspect ratio of the screens won't match the overall dimensions of the current iMacs which include a substantial chin. To some extent the dimensions of the overall unit will be dictated by the aspect ratio of the screen. I tried the tape measure thing before I saw these posts. I figured the new iMacs will have to a little wider, and probably no taller (perhaps a bit shorter) than the current models. But I agree they won't have to a lot bigger.
That is true. If I take out my car keys, I will have plenty of room.
Just make the Mac Mini the size of the trash can Mac Pro and give it some power, that’s what I want. Next to the Mac Pro it would still be “mini”.
The worry I have for the new desktop macs is that Apple will cease using third party graphics and rely only on their own integrated graphics.
The worry I have for the new desktop macs is that Apple will cease using third party graphics and rely only on their own integrated graphics.
I'm partial to blue. Pink would also be nice. The thing is, there's nothing wrong with my existing iMac aside from the occasional slow response. Hmmm, maybe a point here!
They should built the ports into the stand. Solves a lot of problems.
Footprint and overall ease of “so easy, there is no step 3”. That may not be my use case or yours, but it definitely serves enough customers for apple to offer it.
Good points, and we are in agreement that the overall size will be very similar, depending upon what they do release (31-32" being what most seem to expect).
That's another good point. I think marketing wise a 30" 5.5k display wouldn't sound as impressive as a 32" 6k display but the whole thing would be huge. The Pro Display XDR is best mounted on an external mount so it'll be interesting to see what Apple come up with since the reviews of the $1000 stand aren't that impressive.
You're not thinking like Apple here - they will continue to use the 218ppi panels - if they need a 32" display it will be 6k to retain the Retina qualification. Anyone who says 4k or even 2k will be sufficient in a 32" panel hasn't understood what makes Apple different and they may as well buy a Mac mini and add their own Dell display.
A 24" iMac at Retina resolutions will be 4.6K which will be good enough.
Ironically, if Apple are going down the Mini Pro line then people who want to use their own display choice are sorted as well.
The only question mark there what Apple choose to do with the upper SKU Mac mini which can dissipate a 65w Intel CPU. If Apple put an M1X SoC in the upper SKU mini in June's WWDC/October (at the same time as the iMac for example) and give that 4 Thunderbolt ports then it might just be fine for most people - especially if GPU performance going to be much improved over the standard M1.
Please make 16GB RAM the minimum for the new iMac. Don't want an 8GB RAM version. Please don't charge an arm or leg for an upgrade to the 32GB RAM version!