Details on New Mac Pro and MacBook Pro Specs Surface, Retina Notebook Still Under Wraps [Updated]

mirko.meschini said:
predictable specs for the Airs, Ivy Bridge ULV processors, actual SSD and new so-dimm (last year was 4GB max, now 8GB).
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Nothing too surprising there. I am interested to know who is making the SSDs this time around and what model they are and whether the display resolution has been bumped up.
 
KnightWRX said:
The rumors are again this year, all over the place. Keep in mind people, Apple does simple things. Rumors that make it out to be complicated or too "option filled" are almost always wrong from what I've seen. What we're probably in for :

- iOS 6, OS X 10.8, some iCloud or other piece of software at WWDC keynote. No new hardware here, it's going to be a software event. They have scheduled 1h and 30 minutes for the keynote and have tons of software to preview.

- Tomorrow morning, we get the new Macs on the website. Ivy Bridge bumps accross the whole portable and consumer desktops line-up, maybe a surprise disappearance of the 17" MBP (it's oddly been missing from line-ups of rumors). Mac Pro will get the Sandy-Bridge E.

There is no retina stuff coming. The 3rd line of Macbooks is a lie. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining tomorrow that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no iPhone 6 announcement. The new "iPhone" is coming this fall again with the release of iOS 6. You won't get any official details about it. All the leaks mean nothing. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining for the next week that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no Apple TV set coming. I don't need to explain this one. Even the rumors are saying late this year or next year, but frankly, I find that Apple getting into the monitor side of the TV business to be ridicule. They reach a broader audience with a set-top box that works and adding an array of pixels to it that's Apple branded does nothing to help.

I hope this helps a few to understand what we're getting. There will be plenty of good stuff, but frankly, it's going to be impossible to live up to the hype, again.
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With the store being down, I'll revise my position slightly :

- We are getting new hardware today.

That is all, the rest of my post is what I'm sticking to. No retina, no 3rd MacBook, no iPhone, no TV, spec bumps.
 
KnightWRX said:
What are the chances though that Apple is going to be using these puppies :

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/intel-launches-new-ivy-bridge-xeons-targets-microservers/

Seems the E3-1225 v2 is a quad-core 3.2 ghz, 4 cores/4 threads for 209$.
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Already been discussed. It would not make any sense, in my opinion. You may as well stick with a 2010 single CPU Mac Pro. What would the BTO option look like? There is no 6 core E3. I hope that they are not using the E3. The 6 GB memory would not make sense with the E3 since it has dual channel memory. Then again, it wouldn't make sense with a quad channel E5 either.
 
KPOM said:
In any case, what seems more likely are some new accessories, like an updated Airport Express, and maybe a Time Capsule update to 802.11ac. My original Time Capsule is down to 95GB free, so if the notebook line is just spec-bumped, I may have some additional money for accessories.
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I don't know about 802.11ac. The leaked 13" MBP box showed 802.11n in there, so I would find it unlikely for Apple to bump up the TC and AE and not the entire Mac range at the same time.

My guess is 802.11ac is next round.
 
theSeb said:
Already been discussed. It would not make any sense, in my opinion. You may as well stick with a 2010 single CPU Mac Pro. What would the BTO option look like? There is no 6 core E3. I hope that they are not using the E3.
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Maybe they're mixing up E3 and E5. You do know that Apple rarely makes sense in their processor usage (mobile CPUs in desktops, etc..). These "micro-server" CPUs seem like something Apple might pull off.

Though that would make the Mac Pro somewhat of the odd man out in the workstation market.
 
KnightWRX said:
Maybe they're mixing up E3 and E5. You do know that Apple rarely makes sense in their processor usage (mobile CPUs in desktops, etc..). These "micro-server" CPUs seem like something Apple might pull off.

Though that would make the Mac Pro somewhat of the odd man out in the workstation market.
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You missed my edit, but the Mac Pro specs do not make sense whichever way you look at them.

The E3 and E5 have dual channel and quad channel memory respectively. That means 6 GB and 12 GB memory does not make sense.
 
KnightWRX said:
I don't know about 802.11ac. The leaked 13" MBP box showed 802.11n in there, so I would find it unlikely for Apple to bump up the TC and AE and not the entire Mac range at the same time.

My guess is 802.11ac is next round.
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What would the AE update consist of, if not that? Why update it at all if ac is right around the corner? I agree it would be weird not to release ac across the board.
 
What if Apple is deliberately telling people fake specs, and then depending on the leak spec, identifying who is the leaker.. :) I think I watched too much Game of Thrones.
 
The mac pro specs do not make any sense. If we were to see specs close to this it would definitely indicate a 'one last run' mentality.

Anyhow, no need to stress. We shall know more soon!
 
theSeb said:
It would not make any sense, in my opinion. You may as well stick with a 2010 single CPU Mac Pro. What would the BTO option look like? There is no 6 core E3.
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Ivy Bridge tends to be quite a bit faster than Nehalem/Westmere, clock for clock, and the E3 is clocked higher. It maintains 2 MB of L3 per core, and has a comfortably high limit of 32 GB of DDR3-1600.

I bottleneck on one core of my processor far more often than I run out of RAM, so I'd be happy with E3s for single-proc since that'd max many single-threaded workloads, leaving dual-proc for people who have parallelizable workloads. Don't think I'll see it, though.
 
2bikes said:
What if Apple is deliberately telling people fake specs, and then depending on the leak spec, identifying who is the leaker.. :) I think I watched too much Game of Thrones.
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I'm pretty sure Apple does this. And they may do more of it, with Cook's increased emphasis on secrecy.
 
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