Did I miss mention of barometer in series 2?

[jonnysods]

I read no mention of it. Honestly I don't need it if my phone is sending weather updates to the watch.

 

[patrickdunn]

I read no mention of it. Honestly I don't need it if my phone is sending weather updates to the watch.

It's not for weather, it's to determine changes in elevation - stairs climbed, etc.

 

[lordofthereef]

Yeah, it's difficult to say what I wanted to say without coming off like that.

Four or five members posted complaints ("it's enough of a disappointment, I won't be upgrading", "glaring omission", and "it's a bummer Apple didn't do this", etc), then the rest was just dinking around, trying to infer the watch's sensors by looking at Health data.

I guess I'm thinking of other threads, too, like the much more idiotic idea of having the AW measure blood pressure, or complaining that it doesn't include sleep tracking as a "core feature" (whatever that means) while multiple sleep tracking apps are already available. It's insane how spoiled this group is.

I got you. Wasn't trying to be critical. Like I said I've done a good bit of reading and you always seemed so grounded in your comments. But I guess this was the straw that broke the camels back lol.

Take a break man. I've gone six month stretches from the forums here at times. Sometimes I've just had enough.

 

[luigi408]

Hi all,

Can't find a clear answer online. Does the new Apple Watch have barometer? I preordered the Nike one but I'm still debating weather it's good enough for fitness. Thanks!

 

[matt9013]

Hi all,

Can't find a clear answer online. Does the new Apple Watch have barometer? I preordered the Nike one but I'm still debating weather it's good enough for fitness. Thanks!

No it does not have a barometer which sucks.

 

[DerekZoolander]

From everything I can find there is not mention of a barometer...however according to the iFixit tear down it does have a barometric senor attached to the S2 chip. So either they got it wrong or the barometer was undocumented by Apple and not in use yet. Anyone else have thoughts on this!? Look at step 14 from the iFixit tear down link below.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385

 

[luigi408]

From everything I can find there is not mention of a barometer...however according to the iFixit tear down it does have a barometric senor attached to the S2 chip. So either they got it wrong or the barometer was undocumented by Apple and not in use yet. Anyone else have thoughts on this!? Look at step 14 from the iFixit tear down link below.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385

Wow I looked through here and missed that part. Hmmm... maybe the OS isn't ready to use it yet until Nike branded watch comes out? Because according to the rumors of the new watch there was suppose to be a Barometer.

https://www.bosch-sensortec.com/bst/products/all_products/bmp280

 

[angrytoothbrush]

Guys Guys... the iFixit Teardown found a barometer. Go look at that.

 

[BarracksSi]

Guys Guys... the iFixit Teardown found a barometer. Go look at that.

Cool. Now it's up to devs to take advantage of it (and/or Apple to allow access to its data).

If people are so desperate to get barometer data, they can learn how to code like everyone else who writes apps. Might even make a few bucks on the side.

 

[exxxviii]

Guys Guys... the iFixit Teardown found a barometer. Go look at that.

I saw that too. So, those with an ASW2, go test it to see if the activity tracker detects stair flights climbed. Hopefully, it is using the sensor. Otherwise, it could be in the same category of iFixit's discovery of the plethysmograph that is unused.

 

[lordofthereef]

I saw that too. So, those with an ASW2, go test it to see if the activity tracker detects stair flights climbed. Hopefully, it is using the sensor. Otherwise, it could be in the same category of iFixit's discovery of the plethysmograph that is unused.

I can check this if you can tell me how lol

 

[exxxviii]

That is the magic question... On Fitbit, the mobile app and device both have a widget or display to show you flights of stairs climbed. I guess you would have to find that same metric in either the watch activity app or phone activity app. Maybe it is somewhere in Health. I scrolled around in my watch and phone, but I could not find it. I am still S0, so it may not expose unless you are sporting an S2.

 

[lordofthereef]

That is the magic question... On Fitbit, the mobile app and device both have a widget or display to show you flights of stairs climbed. I guess you would have to find that same metric in either the watch activity app or phone activity app. Maybe it is somewhere in Health. I scrolled around in my watch and phone, but I could not find it. I am still S0, so it may not expose unless you are sporting an S2.

It's in health. I just don't know if it's telling me data from the Watch or phone...

It says three flights. I guess I can go climb some stairs with Watch only. Brb.

Edit: didn't change. I also think I can see how the data is collected. Seems all phone.

 

[zhenya]

If you go to Flights Climbed --> Data Sources and Access then under Data Sources you should see a list of apps and devices that can update this metric, in order of priority. My original AW is not listed as a source. Is your new AW listed there?

 

[lordofthereef]

If you go to Flights Climbed --> Data Sources and Access then under Data Sources you should see a list of apps and devices that can update this metric, in order of priority. My original AW is not listed as a source. Is your new AW listed there?

It is not

 

[zhenya]

Well, if it's really in there, hopefully they will begin to make use of it soon and allow other apps to use it as well. Apple has been incredibly reticent to make full use of everything the watch is capable of doing.

 

[Julien]

Haven't looked but is it connected to an external hole? It must have external assess in order to work. Also there is no mention in Apple's specs so it seems very suspect that it works.

EDIT: It does say it occupies an external hole thought to be an 'extra' mic. Makes no sense that Apple would not tout and use it. It makes an excellent selling point to help entice fence sitting S0 owners.

 

[exxxviii]

It's in health. I just don't know if it's telling me data from the Watch or phone...

Aaah. I overlooked it there. Is the watch listed as one of the Data Sources? If so, then maybe it is possible. If not, then my bet is that the sensor is not yet utilized by the OS or apps.
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Haven't looked but is it connected to an external hole? It must have external assess in order to work.

Yes, iFixit noted that it is ported to what looked like a mysterious 2nd mic hole.

 

[nicho]

Haven't looked but is it connected to an external hole? It must have external assess in order to work. Also there is no mention in Apple's specs so it seems very suspect that it works.

EDIT: It does say it occupies an external hole thought to be an 'extra' mic. Makes no sense that Apple would not tout and use it. It makes an excellent selling point to help entice fence sitting S0 owners.

Maybe they got it wrong and it's actually for water pressure, not air pressure?

 

[exxxviii]

Maybe they got it wrong and it's actually for water pressure, not air pressure?

Haha... Yeah, what if it records pressure depth into its internal black box? If it detects that the watch was subjected to over-pressure under water, it voids the warranty.

 

[nicho]

Haha... Yeah, what if it records pressure depth into its internal black box? If it detects that the watch was subjected to over-pressure under water, it voids the warranty.

ok so... i checked out the ifixit teardown and the part they referenced is indeed a barometer. but it has a lot of applications that aren't necessarily just counting flights of stairs and could be highly relevant to swimming and helping to tune the accelerometer.

 

[Julien]

Maybe they got it wrong and it's actually for water pressure, not air pressure?

Barometer is for atmospheric pressure and a hydrometer is for water pressure.

 

[Tibits]

Altitude/elevation readings enabled by Barometer (or other means) are essential to me. Tracking mountain hikes and downhill skiing days are things I would want a smart watch / fitness tracker to do. I am considering upgrading from a standard iPhone to the Plus, therefore I need the iWatch function as a stand alone device for times I don't want to lug the Plus. Otherwise I am going to have to consider some of the Garmin devices.

 

[jclardy]

Cool. Now it's up to devs to take advantage of it (and/or Apple to allow access to its data).

If people are so desperate to get barometer data, they can learn how to code like everyone else who writes apps. Might even make a few bucks on the side.

I doubt there is access to it, otherwise they would have mentioned it. And not implementing it into activity seems to be a huge oversight. The main point would be to track stairs climbed/elevation climbed when working out. And to track it passively like fitbit does (And the iPhone does...but that data doesn't feed into Activity.)

If there is SDK access you can build an app...but that app would have to be running every time you went up a staircase to track it. The point would be passive tracking.

 

[nicho]

Barometer is for atmospheric pressure and a hydrometer is for water pressure.

my guess would be that it's used to help determine strokes in a swimming workout.