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Did I miss mention of barometer in series 2?

They probably couldn't figure out the "passive" monitoring of the baro sensor thus effecting battery life. So they didn't incorporate it at launch.
I'm hoping they do. Does the AW 1 have this?
I have a fenix3 now and it's great for fitness but lacking in the "smart" category. If the AW could do the ABC stuff they'd definitely pick up an additional segment of the market.
 
Sadly this is the only thing keeping me from getting an AW. I was hoping this version would count flights of stairs. It is a key goal in my daily activity goals. :(
 
I have been on the fence about getting a series 2, but was a bit bummed that it doesn't have a barometer to measure elevation. According to Apple's site and other reviews, barometer isn't mentioned or even flatly stated that it doesn't have one. However, iFixit seems to have found barometric components in their teardown.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Watch+Series+2+Teardown/67385

Can anybody confirm whether the watch is able to measure stairs, etc?
 
There are a few threads about this. If you search on ifixit and barometer, it will pull them up and you can read through the observations. So far, it does not appear that the watch uses it, and the watch is not included as a data source in Health for Flights Climbed.
 
exxxviii said:
There are a few threads about this. If you search on ifixit and barometer, it will pull them up and you can read through the observations. So far, it does not appear that the watch uses it, and the watch is not included as a data source in Health for Flights Climbed.
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But technically does the series 2 have a barometer?
 
Benz63amg said:
Why would that part be there physically then? Perhaps they will activate it in a Software update?
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I think it is there to help assist the GPS in getting a lock faster. TBH i'm not sure why they didn't add it to the activity app as stairs climbed like fitbit does (And the health app does with the phone...) They might add it, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
Benz63amg said:
Why would that part be there physically then? Perhaps they will activate it in a Software update?
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It could be like the plethysmograph HR sensor ifixit discovered day one with the original AW. Apple never mentioned it, and to my knowledge, never used it. Or, it could be like the advanced camera in the 7+ that Apple specifically called out and promised in a future iOS release. The fact that Apple never mentioned the barometer does not bode well, IMHO.

Edit: fixed the typo that I meant to say that I think it does not bode well for the barometer.
 
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exxxviii said:
It could be like the plethysmograph HR sensor ifixit discovered day one with the original AW. Apple never mentioned it, and to my knowledge, never used it. Or, it could be like the advanced camera in the 7+ that Apple specifically called out and promised in a future iOS release. The fact that Apple never mentioned the barometer does bode well, IMHO.
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The fact that Apple didn't mention the Barometer as a feature for the Apple Watch series 2 means that they won't activate it in a future software update? (If it's present as ifixit reported)

I'm personally not disappointed if the series 2 has no barometer although it would have been great if it did, it would be disappointing if next year they release a new version of the watch and advertise it has a Barometer and Apple ends up never enabling the barometer ifixit found inside the series 2(if it is indeed a barometer)


I do however agree that according to reports, the 0 gen Apple Watch had a blood oxygen sensor as well and Apple never activated it as it was inaccurate from their testing so it was abandoned all together (or at least this this day)
Perhaps they could initiate and enable that one watchos4? Honestly who knows
 
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Benz63amg said:
The fact that Apple didn't mention the Barometer as a feature for the Apple Watch series 2 means that they won't activate it in a future software update? (If it's present as ifixit reported)
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Oops... I had a typo. I meant to write "does not bode well." I do not think it is likely that the AWS2 will get barometer activated in a future iOS. Just a guess.
 
If I use my iPhone to track a run with Endomondo for example - it shows elevation on the run. Does the AW S2 not have this ability?
 
Gmouse said:
If the watch can measure stairs by itself, then, it's using the barometer.
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It does not appear to measure stairs by itself.
xDKP said:
If I use my iPhone to track a run with Endomondo for example - it shows elevation on the run. Does the AW S2 not have this ability?
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Two different problems. When you are doing an outdoor activity with GPS enabled, it can use GPS to calculate elevation. However, the barometric altimeter gives a device greater elevation accuracy than GPS when using it for outdoor tracking. And, it enables the device to detect elevation changes indoors, like climbing a flight of stairs, when using it without GPS enabled.
 
exxxviii said:
It does not appear to measure stairs by itself.

Two different problems. When you are doing an outdoor activity with GPS enabled, it can use GPS to calculate elevation. However, the barometric altimeter gives a device greater elevation accuracy than GPS when using it for outdoor tracking. And, it enables the device to detect elevation changes indoors, like climbing a flight of stairs, when using it without GPS enabled.
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Are you positive it doesn't measure stairs by itself?
 
exxxviii said:
Two different problems. When you are doing an outdoor activity with GPS enabled, it can use GPS to calculate elevation. However, the barometric altimeter gives a device greater elevation accuracy than GPS when using it for outdoor tracking. And, it enables the device to detect elevation changes indoors, like climbing a flight of stairs, when using it without GPS enabled.
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You are right, elevation can be determined with the help of GPS when you are outdoor. I guess flights of stairs can be measure by the iPhone but that isn't a big deal in my opinion.
 
symmi said:
Any news or rumors?
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Did you read this thread? If you are asking if there is any new info then NO. It is the same as the built in O2 sensor that it is there but undocumented and unused so there is not likely to ever be any Apple info about them.
 
Keep in mind the watch is water sealed so I am not sure how the barometer would measure accurate air pressure with out a proper opening for air to easily get in and out. The promoter sensor need to be exposed to air somehow
 
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Keep in mind the watch is water sealed so I am not sure how the barometer would measure accurate air pressure with out a proper opening for air to easily get in and out. The promoter sensor need to be exposed to air somehow
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It may just be it's already in the GPS chipset they were using in the iPhone or something. The iPod Touch was rumoured to have an FM radio tuner I believe, but it was never activated.
 
Julien said:
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The Barometer opening is not present on the S0 and S1 :apple:Watches.

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are you implying the series 2 has a barometer? how would we make use of it if so? and if it had a barometer wouldn't apple market it?
 
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