I would so be in for a big-screen Macbook without a dedicated video card, but I highly doubt we're going to get that.
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I would so be in for a big-screen Macbook without a dedicated video card, but I highly doubt we're going to get that.
I do not understand why there should be a price increase.
The only reason would be greed and trying to make the money they lost with the bad butterfly keyboard design.
- Technology goes down in price with time while specs grow up exponentially.
Look at SSD drive capacity, RAM, etc.
- Apple removed most of the ports, DVD, etc which actually should reduce the cost even further.
- Apple forced us to have the useless Touchbar, for which they already increase the price for $400.00
- There has not been any major innovation that should justify a price increase. Increasing one inch in the monitor should not increase the price by $600.
If something the Macbook Pro should be reduced in price.
If they come at a starting point of $3k, this will be my last Mac.
I am done supporting a complete laptop nonsense design, of soldering components, non upgradability, lame keyboard, and removing best feature ever (Mag-safe) that has been going on for the past 4 years.
The only reason would be greed and trying to make the money they lost with the bad butterfly keyboard design.
- Technology goes down in price with time while specs grow up exponentially.
Look at SSD drive capacity, RAM, etc.
- Apple removed most of the ports, DVD, etc which actually should reduce the cost even further.
- Apple forced us to have the useless Touchbar, for which they already increase the price for $400.00
- There has not been any major innovation that should justify a price increase. Increasing one inch in the monitor should not increase the price by $600.
If something the Macbook Pro should be reduced in price.
If they come at a starting point of $3k, this will be my last Mac.
I am done supporting a complete laptop nonsense design, of soldering components, non upgradability, lame keyboard, and removing best feature ever (Mag-safe) that has been going on for the past 4 years.
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Conversely, it might be cheaper. My money is on cheaper.
Granted some people want a stupendously powerful laptop to process their RED footage, but Apple wants to sell more than 20 of these machines.
The most common comment is a complaint about how expensive everything is, and there is room to make a 15-16" macbook cheaper, or less premium.
But regardless, when these things hit, something is gonna get cheaper. If the 16" isnt cheaper, we know the 2018 and 2019s will take a price cut. I mean, who wants that keyboard once the replacement is available?
Please just stop.
It simply makes too much sense to not use all Thunderbolt 3/USB-C connectors. There is no shortage of adapters, dongles, hubs, docks, and more to make connecting to non-USB-C accessories easy.
Laptops are generally used in 2 ways:
1. Portable, wireless, with nothing connected.
2. Docked at a desk with any number of accessories connected, making it a temporary desktop.
The argument can easily be made that using a single Thunderbolt cable to a dock or hub that all the fixed accessories are already connected to is far and away a better experience than plugging in 6 cables when you sit down.
None of the meaningful functionality is missing, the paradigm has simply shifted on how you achieve it.
Yes, everyone has found it just a little bit annoying over the years to be caught without an adapter and unable to plug something in.
Prices have stayed steady with inflation...back to 2013, atleast. As some expenses decrease, apple adds new expenses, like touchbar and "security" chips. Also they keep pushing the limits for size and weight, so there is always new engineering costs and tooling costs.
Nobody complains about a $1,000 phone with soldered in memory, so why not a computer? Okay, so they complain about the $1,000 part, but not the memory part...
I have 10 devices I may connect to my computer, depending on what I’m doing. A total of zero are USB-C. All of them are USB-A. These range from mechanical keyboards, mouse, logics processor for guitar, drawing tablet, webcam, etc. I’m wondering why I need USB-C.
What world do you live in?
SSDs have been USB-C for years. Samsung and Sandisk are the most sold ones on Amazon.
I concur. But this would take some actual "courage" from Apple's part too. Namely: Start bundling all new iPhones with the same USB-C fast charging brick as the new iPad Pro, and replace lightning with USB-C on all new devices. Then it would make sense to completely phase out USB-A. The last few years without it were just an exercise in user frustration.
Now, when it comes to HDMI and SD reader: we still need/want those and other ultraslim laptops in the market manage to offer them. I can't tell with certainty if it was all about Ive's obsession with streamlined thinness, creating a new revenue stream from forcing users to live the #donglelife, or both, but it's been a hell of an inconvenience to this day.
On my personal Wishlist I'd add: optional touchbar and FaceID instead of TouchID (it makes more sense on a laptop you always stare at point blank when you boot than an iPad you're going to rotate and obscure with your thumbs all the time), trackpad with better palm rejection and Pencil support, a return of MagSafe in some form (at least a visual indicator that the Mac is charging instead of the pathetic whimper), better thermals, better battery life, and of course a better keyboard. FFS, they had achieved a perfect keyboard with the Magic Keyboard 2, then abandoned it to create the butterfly abomination merely for the sake of thinness AND stuck to it for 4 years out of sheer ego and complacency.
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If this is true, I will be SO, SO HAPPY!
I still think about my beloved 17" Macbook Pro - if it were still here today it'd have a 3,840 x 2,400 resolution screen. I found that perfectly hit the minimal size needed for productive programming with a lot of windows open.
For Mac users, this could be a "shut up and take my money" moment. But I'm trying to hold in my enthusiasm, because the last time I got so excited about the next generation MBP coming out was in 2016.
I still think about my beloved 17" Macbook Pro - if it were still here today it'd have a 3,840 x 2,400 resolution screen. I found that perfectly hit the minimal size needed for productive programming with a lot of windows open.
For Mac users, this could be a "shut up and take my money" moment. But I'm trying to hold in my enthusiasm, because the last time I got so excited about the next generation MBP coming out was in 2016.
Agreed. The new Display is probably going to be hard to find. The pros who need reference displays are going to be lining up to buy these... because they're about $30,000 cheaper than the standard reference displays out there and don't appear to have the 5-minute running time before the dreaded "this display is no longer accurate" message pops up. While the cost of the display seems high to many, I say those people just don't get it. And the cost of the stand is just a throw-in for the target market. It's not even a consideration (mostly because that market will likely use wall/desk mounts anyway).
The cost of the new laptop (if it indeed costs more than the current 15") is a non-issue for people who actually need a high-end laptop. I can pay for the entire laptop with less than a morning's-worth of work. If somebody can't do that, then they are clearly not the target market and should look at the 13" MBP or a MBAir.
Nobody likes to pay a lot of $$ for anything, myself included, but if they're willing to put it into realistic context it's not that big a deal.
It’s been repeatedly stated it will have a scissor keyboard
It has been repeatedly stated that Ive had nothing to do with it
BTW, to those USB-A nay sayers, there are still things that don't come in USB-C, like computer mice, external keyboards, and most of the USB stick drives you already own. And I absolutely HATE dongle hell. I was even desperate enough to try blue tooth mice, and it's a horrible experience because they frequently lose connection or are jittery, requiring the mouse to be rebooted, and they are frequently complicated to get to "repair" with the computer. So I still use my favorite USB-A mice and external keyboards whenever possible. To be fair, I've done OK with a USB 3.0 adapter strip - the problem is that for some reason, almost none of them actually work with Macs, so you have to try a dozen to get one working.
Ironically, notice that all of Apple's NON-portable computers now have USB-A ports, even though for stationary computers, the cost of dongles is negligible. Clearly, the all USB-C port move on the laptops was designed to force the industry to make USB-C accessories, not because it's convenient. I don't expect Apple to add legacy ports to their next Macbook Pro, but I'd gladly pay an extra $1,000 for the convenience. OK, not gladly. But if I had to, I would.
Ironically, notice that all of Apple's NON-portable computers now have USB-A ports, even though for stationary computers, the cost of dongles is negligible. Clearly, the all USB-C port move on the laptops was designed to force the industry to make USB-C accessories, not because it's convenient. I don't expect Apple to add legacy ports to their next Macbook Pro, but I'd gladly pay an extra $1,000 for the convenience. OK, not gladly. But if I had to, I would.
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I think the P-series is the product line that caters to this. They have more configuration options on the P series as well.
Conversely, it might be cheaper. My money is on cheaper.
Granted some people want a stupendously powerful laptop to process their RED footage, but Apple wants to sell more than 20 of these machines.
The most common comment is a complaint about how expensive everything is, and there is room to make a 15-16" macbook cheaper, or less premium.
But regardless, when these things hit, something is gonna get cheaper. If the 16" isnt cheaper, we know the 2018 and 2019s will take a price cut. I mean, who wants that keyboard once the replacement is available?
No way will it be cheaper! Apple won't release a laptop with a larger screen size and more desirable keyboard and undercut the existing the current 15" and I don't see apple reducing prices of them anytime soon. More likely they will reduce upgrade prices like they did recently with the SSDs in the latest pros.
I need to upgrade to a mobile but yet powerful laptop - VM, 3d modelling, simulation. It will be either Dell XPS 15 or MacBook Pro 15 and I'm more inclined to go with macOS.
Hopefully introducing MacBook Pro 16 will lower the price of the 15.. or maybe not.
Being a very proud company, Apple has a track record of just forcing design changes to its user base. If they really are going back to scissor keyboard then I think its a humbling move for Apple specially they stick to butterfly keyboard proudly for 3 years if I'm not mistaken. Maybe down the road if touchbar is still not popular with developers we will see MacBook Pros without touchbar or at least has a physical ESC key.
Hopefully introducing MacBook Pro 16 will lower the price of the 15.. or maybe not.
Being a very proud company, Apple has a track record of just forcing design changes to its user base. If they really are going back to scissor keyboard then I think its a humbling move for Apple specially they stick to butterfly keyboard proudly for 3 years if I'm not mistaken. Maybe down the road if touchbar is still not popular with developers we will see MacBook Pros without touchbar or at least has a physical ESC key.
Same here. This one definitely sounds interesting and depending on specs and price be my next MBP.
So done with my 2017 15” MacBook Pro with nonstop keyboard issues. I am going to be on my 5th repair and I’m going to demand this laptop the next time I bring it in when this is released. I’m tired of them just replacing it with the same defective keyboard
This moronic dongle excuse is the most laughable claim against USB-C. One single dongle that does everything you need has a weight and volume less than what you save by not having all those ports on your laptop. You must have a little compartment in your laptop bag for it, unless if you carry your MacBook in a shopping tote.
I doubt it but I second the Magsafe and SD (or MicroSD) slot. Personally, I'm ok with 6 USB-C instead of USB-A. I have no issue with dongles. HDMI out would be nice but I already have a dongle for that.
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Sorry you just do not make sense.
The touchbar us useless while other computer already have full touchsecreens. Furthermore the price is already baked in since they already increased $400, which I consider a rip off.
All the Macbooks 2016+ has been a disaster in terms of design from the keyboard, to removing ma-safe, to all soldering components, to trying to cram 8 cores in a case that already had problems with 4.
The phone has nothing to do with the computer line up, but FYI, why do you think Apple iphone sales went down almost a over 25%?? furthermore, Apple revenue from iphone used to be over 70% now is at 53%, while they increase the prices so it is even worse.
Mac sales have been declining year over year. Sadly, the same thing will happen to the Macbook line up if they keep increasing the prices.
I hear you but historically, IIRC, the promo ends just before the new models. It helps clear out stock without significant discounts in prep for a new release.
Bought my 2015 15” MBP in 2017 so I’m good for awhile. I’ll see about 2027 but will probably buy a mini before then. Still using a 2012 mini that I maxed out.