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I'm keeping it for now & I'm, for the most part, happy with it. I do wish that NBC would be offered on the set top boxes, & the dvr function would arrive soon......but for $35, I'm cool for now.

I'm also waiting to see what hulu offers....The fact that they mentioned they will include CBS (as well as access to their standard hulu offerings) is a huge plus for me.

I plan on keeping DTN until hulu is released.
 
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I solved this with an HD antenna and Tablo. I stream all the locals to 2 different AppleTV, and use Netflix, Hulu, DTVN for the extras.
Yeah, I actually have an old HD Homerun connected to an OTA antenna that I can use via the Channels app. But it would be nice to have access to some of the cable news programs (although you can often find inofficial live streams on Youtube).
 
My entertainment choices are based on the principal of what I see as value. I have a good home theater setup, so watching quality content has been my goal. As for streaming services, I prefer the DTVN to the satellite. With a decent internet connection, the picture has been great. For now, they are still working menu bugs out. I am sure the experience will improve. I am good with this service, particularly in its' cost for access. I dropped satellite more than 2 years ago, and found other ways to stream what i liked in that time period. The Satellite system was good but the optioned services, which drove the price up, eventually drove my bad attitude to drop the whole thing. Although, without a cable/satellite account, there were channels I did not have access to. This streaming app fixed that. I can live with the $35/mo for the 100 channels. If it were to go to $60, I would drop it in a heartbeat. There are a lot of other options and there is not enough interest to keep it, if the price does get increased.


I agree I just bought a 4k tv and it seems stupid to put inferior quality images on it, I still have my Dish Network sub and hopper and I would say its image is not as good as the DTNOW image, its definitley more compressed on some channels, i've turned off DTV Now autorenew but have it still till April
 
Ok here's my gripe:

Audience Network and AT&T Originals. You would think because this network and original content is OWNED by AT&T, that their on-demand would match DIRECTV....right?

WRONG!

How the hell did AT&T get this wrong? They own the content but it is only available on their legacy system?!??
 
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To borrow one of Jobs' terms, media licensing is a "bag of hurt."

That is why those hoping for local channels in non-O&O markets will still probably be out of luck when Hulu launches their service. The local franchisees hold the licenses to provide network programming in those markets, not the network.

Those agreements may or may not preclude a network from granting additional licenses in those markets, but for DTVN, Hulu, etc. to negotiate separately for those rights, for each market, isn't a high priority, and may not be worth the effort, especially in the smaller markets. That goes for the network as well. If a franchisee is going to lose their exclusivity and have to share, they're going to demand a lower fee, and will whatever DTVN or whomever pays cover the difference?

On a national level, it's no easier. Google secured CBS for YouTube TV, but not Viacom, Turner, Time Warner, and a few other network groups. Vue had Viacom's channels, but lost them. Even the MSOs, which have the most complete coverage, still have to battle the programmers over carriage fees occasionally.

In TV and movies, the networks and studios are the ones who hold most of the cards. The MSOs bend over to accommodate them, and then pass that onto users who have to do the same.

These new OTT services can't afford to do that, and still charge lower prices and differentiate themselves from cable, so there are gaps, and other compromises.

Services like Netflix and Amazon Prime have taken control of their own destiny, and are creating their own original content to reduce their reliance on the studios.

If you're a big telecom and can afford it, you buy yourself a network or studio like Comcast has done, and AT&T is doing. They don't want to be stuck being "dumb pipes."

Apple probably thought it could waltz in and dictate the terms for their own OTT/skinny bundle, but it doesn't have the same clout as it does in the music industry. With no agreement on terms, no Apple TV service.

That has left the ATV platform moribund, and reliant on the good graces of the networks and others to create apps to fill the programming void that Apple hasn't been able to fill, thus far.

Carpool Karaoke and Planet of the Apps is a start, but not likely to be must haves. And puzzlingly, they're making them a part of Apple Music, another category where Apple first missed the boat.

Without a "hook," why would most choose an ATV over other streaming boxes? Better iOS integration isn't enough for most people.

TLDR -- whatever gripe you may have with DTVN and others, it's as much a product of licensing and cost as much as it is a technical. The networks and studios are the ones in control.
 
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OK, it looks like I cannot watch Giants baseball on Comcast Sportsnet Bay Area, so I will be cancelling my service. That was the main reason I signed up. I can watch the channel but the game is blacked out?
 
For now I am keeping it. I don't have cable and use a OTA antenna which is not 100% reliable, so I use DTVN as a backup for the main TV stations as it is still cheaper than a cable package. Curious to see what Hulu is going to offer. Google TV is not an option, too expensive for what they offer.
 
I will continue until I see what Hulu offers. My cost is only Net $25 with HBO Go vs. HBO Now for $15. I would like a DVR but that is only on PS Vue at this time and they are much more expensive the $25 and with less content. Example. My wife must have Hallmark and Vue has neither of the 2 Hallmark Channels. I looks at Sling but again much less content about the same or more money and they do not yet have a DVR.

At this time I think DIRECTV Now is the best value for me. I mainly use it for Live TV. My granddaughter is watching the Disney Jr. App using the my DTV NOW credentials.

I have to agree, I also stuck with the renewal service becauase for net $25 per month more I get more than enough TV. Honestly it is a pretty good TV package for me 100 plus channels plus HBO for 40 per month. Cable company can't touch it.
 
To borrow one of Jobs' terms, media licensing is a "bag of hurt."

That is why those hoping for local channels in non-O&O markets will still probably be out of luck when Hulu launches their service. The local franchisees hold the licenses to provide network programming in those markets, not the network.

Those agreements may or may not preclude a network from granting additional licenses in those markets, but for DTVN, Hulu, etc. to negotiate separately for those rights, for each market, isn't a high priority, and may not be worth the effort, especially in the smaller markets. That goes for the network as well. If a franchisee is going to lose their exclusivity and have to share, they're going to demand a lower fee, and will whatever DTVN or whomever pays cover the difference?

On a national level, it's no easier. Google secured CBS for YouTube TV, but not Viacom, Turner, Time Warner, and a few other network groups. Vue had Viacom's channels, but lost them. Even the MSOs, which have the most complete coverage, still have to battle the programmers over carriage fees occasionally.

In TV and movies, the networks and studios are the ones who hold most of the cards. The MSOs bend over to accommodate them, and then pass that onto users who have to do the same.

These new OTT services can't afford to do that, and still charge lower prices and differentiate themselves from cable, so there are gaps, and other compromises.

Services like Netflix and Amazon Prime have taken control of their own destiny, and are creating their own original content to reduce their reliance on the studios.

If you're a big telecom and can afford it, you buy yourself a network or studio like Comcast has done, and AT&T is doing. They don't want to be stuck being "dumb pipes."

Apple probably thought it could waltz in and dictate the terms for their own OTT/skinny bundle, but it doesn't have the same clout as it does in the music industry. With no agreement on terms, no Apple TV service.

That has left the ATV platform moribund, and reliant on the good graces of the networks and others to create apps to fill the programming void that Apple hasn't been able to fill, thus far.

Carpool Karaoke and Planet of the Apps is a start, but not likely to be must haves. And puzzlingly, they're making them a part of Apple Music, another category where Apple first missed the boat.

Without a "hook," why would most choose an ATV over other streaming boxes? Better iOS integration isn't enough for most people.

TLDR -- whatever gripe you may have with DTVN and others, it's as much a product of licensing and cost as much as it is a technical. The networks and studios are the ones in control.

Except with like channels between Sling and DTVN is vastly different. I get a real 72 hour rewind with Sling. We're lucky to get 3 programs over a 24 hr span with DTVN. Shows are typically up the next day on VOD for Sling. It's a week on DTVN. Now I know DTVN is blaming the networks but I find it very suspicious that a network would favor re-airs on one service the next day but won't allow it for another similar service. I work for a cable network (owned by FOX) and holding back programming and VOD ad buys isn't something a Cable network typically likes to do... not showing something means not making that money.
 
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Except with like channels between Sling and DTVN is vastly different. I get a real 72 hour rewind with Sling. We're lucky to get 3 programs over a 24 hr span with DTVN. Shows are typically up the next day on VOD for Sling. It's a week on DTVN. Now I know DTVN is blaming the networks but I find it very suspicious that a network would favor re-airs on one service the next day but won't allow it for another similar service. I work for a cable network (owned by FOX) and holding back programming and VOD ad buys isn't something a Cable network typically likes to do... not showing something means not making that money.

Can't discount the possibility that DTVN still lacks the back end capability to support better VOD. It's not often mentioned, but their purchase of a small Canadian company (whose name escapes me at the moment) is what forms the basis for the service.

But it can still be a legal matter as well. Only AT&T is privy to the terms of their agreements, and in a market where streaming of major events, like sports and awards shows, can be bogged down by such rights restrictions, anything is possible.

It also makes little sense for NBC on DTVN to be restricted to mobile devices, and be denied on ATV, yet here we are.
 
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I sure hope DTVN adds CBS very soon in time for the March Madness tournament. Also the Masters Golf tourny in a month. Those would be good welcomes to the DTVN service. (Noticed AT&T is the Apple TV sponsor on the March Madness Live website so that would be ironic if DTVN doesn't offer the CBS feeds for the basketball games)

Stability has improved from December, but the recent guide issues that happen randomly are not acceptable. They need to get the service back up to 1080p at 60fps. Then add a DVR feature for all channels with no restrictions. The faster this cannibalizes the DTV satellite service the faster we'll see these changes. Its not if, but when this occurs

Or if major competition arrives sooner ie. Apple TV service or Hulu Live, YT TV etc... with better UI and features
 
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I sure hope DTVN adds CBS very soon in time for the March Madness tournament. Also the Masters Golf tourny in a month. Those would be good welcomes to the DTVN service. (Noticed AT&T is the Apple TV sponsor on the March Madness Live website so that would be ironic if DTVN doesn't offer the CBS feeds for the basketball games)

Stability has improved from December, but the recent guide issues that happen randomly are not acceptable. They need to get the service back up to 1080p at 60fps. Then add a DVR feature for all channels with no restrictions. The faster this cannibalizes the DTV satellite service the faster we'll see these changes. Its not if, but when this occurs

Or if major competition arrives sooner ie. Apple TV service or Hulu Live, YT TV etc... with better UI and features
Just because DTVN adds CBS, it doesn't mean that you'll actually get your local CBS station. Look at ABC, NBC and FOX as an example. Those are only available in their owned and operated markets. To everyone else, it's on-demand content only. I would think the same would happen (at least initially) with CBS. They have to negotiate with each affiliate company in order to join markets outside of the owned-and-operated areas.
 
I actually like DTVN and want to get rid of my cable and phone and just keep my internet through Time Warner/Spectrum BUT the problem is that if I drop my cable and phone, my internet which is their highest (50/5) goes up to $121.00 a month. So I end up saving about $8.00. Time Warner/Spectrum have my area on lock because there are no other internet providers, it is total BS! Anyone out there have any advice on how to get my internet price reduced?

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Can someone explain how to access the 72-hour rewind? I thought I used it once when I first started the service, but now I can't remember how to access it for some shows I missed. Or is it only available for certain shows?
 
Can someone explain how to access the 72-hour rewind? I thought I used it once when I first started the service, but now I can't remember how to access it for some shows I missed. Or is it only available for certain shows?
I was temporary disabled.
 
Over the last few days DTVN has started freezing on me with increasing frequency again, sometimes just for a few seconds and sometimes permanently. :confused: Very annoying. It's particularly bad when watching via web browser on a computer. I thought it was getting better, but apparently not. At least I haven't lost any money during the trial due to the "free" Apple TV.
 
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Over the last few days DTVN has started freezing on me with increasing frequency again, sometimes just for a few seconds and sometimes permanently. :confused: Very annoying. It's particularly bad when watching via web browser on a computer. I thought it was getting better, but apparently not. At least I haven't lost any money during the trial due to the "free" Apple TV.

Tonight it is absolutely terrible!!! Around 2:00 PM EST it was freezing for a long time and the picture quality would go from great to terrible. It appears now, 9:05 PM EST things have gotten much better. Some freezing, but nothing like before! Maybe they were updating the service, haha.

Edit: Using a Apple TV 4th Gen.

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Tonight it is absolutely terrible!!! Around 2:00 PM EST it was freezing for a long time and the picture quality would go from great to terrible. It appears now, 9:05 PM EST things have gotten much better. Some freezing, but nothing like before! Maybe they were updating the service, haha.

Edit: Using a Apple TV 4th Gen.

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Yeah, I had some PQ issues today as well. But I was also having similar problems with YouTube so not quite ready to blame AT&T for the problems I had today. Everything is fine now though.
 
Any sports fan here- I am going to be making the complete switch between DTV and DTVN but need to find a way to still watch soccer- most games are from la liga BeIn Sports
 
I actually like DTVN and want to get rid of my cable and phone and just keep my internet through Time Warner/Spectrum BUT the problem is that if I drop my cable and phone, my internet which is their highest (50/5) goes up to $121.00 a month. So I end up saving about $8.00. Time Warner/Spectrum have my area on lock because there are no other internet providers, it is total BS! Anyone out there have any advice on how to get my internet price reduced?

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I had the same thing with FiOS. I actually kept the internet and kept the absolute basic local channels package and it was $40 cheaper than the internet alone! I am guessing they do this so they can say I am still a tv customer and that they haven't lost me. Haha
 
I had the same thing with FiOS. I actually kept the internet and kept the absolute basic local channels package and it was $40 cheaper than the internet alone! I am guessing they do this so they can say I am still a tv customer and that they haven't lost me. Haha

Yeah it is absolutely ridiculous. Time Warner/Spectrum has NO competition around here so I am screwed, I have to keep their internet. I am going to get in TWC/Spectrums retention department and see if they can do anything, doubtful.

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Any sports fan here- I am going to be making the complete switch between DTV and DTVN but need to find a way to still watch soccer- most games are from la liga BeIn Sports
I'd look into either PlayStation Vue, which has BeIn, or fuboTV, which has a ton of soccer-centric stations.
 
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