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As far as quality(picture/audio) appletv+ takes the cake here over Disney+. I think appletv+ is the best streaming for audio video you'll get anywhere. Disney is less than Netflix it seems for me(maybe equal to for some things). We'll see when we get some bitrate numbers.

If you're a quality buff, shouldn't you be torrenting your own content, to cherry pick high quality versions?
 
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not both? I have both and Netflix and amazon prime. There is a place for all of them.
I don't think the average consumer is going to subscribe to every streaming service. And between Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Disney, and Apple, Apple is the one that will always severely lag behind due to not having enough content. The only way they add a large catalog is if they somehow purchase a studio like Sony. HBO Max will also destroy them in terms of content.

They don't have a single must watch show right now and I don't see one on the horizon.
 
I don't think the average consumer is going to subscribe to every streaming service. And between Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Disney, and Apple, Apple is the one that will always severely lag behind due to not having enough content. The only way they add a large catalog is if they somehow purchase a studio like Sony. HBO Max will also destroy them in terms of content.

They don't have a single must watch show right now and I don't see one on the horizon.
Depends on the person and what they like. I think ATV+ content is fantastic as is their upcoming shows IMO. They'll add more in time. But as it stands there's more tv out there I'd like to watch and have no time for so having a limited number of shows doesn't hurt me. I can't keep up as is. Quality over quantity.

I get ATV+ for free as do many people. Lots of people have prime anyways. Disney+ free for Verizon users. Netflix free for T-Mobile users(free for me). Lots of ways to get free content so no one has to actively pay for them all.
So I only pay for Disney+ and amazon prime(for free 2 day shipping) and get ATV+ and Netflix for free. And hulu sucks so I don't bother.

The bulk of what Disney has people already own if they wanted it. They don't have anything aside from the mandalorian that I don't have. Lots of originals coming I'm looking forward to. But after I watch the mandalorian I'm free to cancel until more original content is added. Which really applies to any of the streaming services.
 
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I don't think the average consumer is going to subscribe to every streaming service. And between Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Disney, and Apple, Apple is the one that will always severely lag behind due to not having enough content. The only way they add a large catalog is if they somehow purchase a studio like Sony. HBO Max will also destroy them in terms of content.

They don't have a single must watch show right now and I don't see one on the horizon.

Both See and The Morning Show are gripping, we subscribed for those two alone. Dickinson is going to attract a lot of pre-teen / teen girls. Never underestimate the influence of Oprah.

A lot of people subscribe to HBO for their original content. I have met a lot of people who signed up just to watch Sex in the City, The Sopranos, GoT, and now His Dark Materials. Apple doesn't have to have the most content if they have a great show always adding new episodes.
 
The bulk of what Disney has people already own if they wanted it. They don't have anything aside from the mandalorian that I don't have. Lots of originals coming I'm looking forward to. But after I watch the mandalorian I'm free to cancel until more original content is added. Which really applies to any of the streaming services.
How do you know this? Disney's back catalog is unmatched. Their service at $6.99 is far, far, far more appealing than anything Apple offers at $4.99. Disney is going to dominate just from families signing up. Apple in my opinion, is always going to be last in terms of content and subscribers. There's a reason they are giving it away for a year. What other major service did that?

Amazon, Netflix, Disney, and eventually HBO Max are going to be in a class of their own. Apple is a tiny, microscopic blip on their radar.
 
there's nothing i'm interest to look from Disney

So far Apple TV+ been very good with their shows.

Let's talk about blind iSheeps...

Probably half the content you have watched in your entire life comes from Disney or one of its subsidiaries, I understand it may not appeal to you to subscribe (I am not doing it either) but there is really no comparison with ATV+, come on, only 2 half decent shows compared to an entire library that spans almost a century and has all sorts of records in ticketing and awards.
 
Both See and The Morning Show are gripping, we subscribed for those two alone. Dickinson is going to attract a lot of pre-teen / teen girls. Never underestimate the influence of Oprah.

A lot of people subscribe to HBO for their original content. I have met a lot of people who signed up just to watch Sex in the City, The Sopranos, GoT, and now His Dark Materials. Apple doesn't have to have the most content if they have a great show always adding new episodes.
Gripping streaming content is something like Mindhunter. Apple has nothing close to that in terms of quality. I don't see teen girls lining up to watch a show about Emily Dickinson.
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Let's talk about blind iSheeps...

Probably half the content you have watched in your entire life comes from Disney or one of its subsidiaries, I understand it may not appeal to you to subscribe (I am not doing it either) but there is really no comparison with ATV+, come on, only 2 half decent shows compared to an entire library that spans almost a century and has all sorts of records in ticketing and awards.
This is an example of "Apple can do no wrong, everything they do is amazing" fanboyism that you see on these forums. It's completely laughable.
 
is the mandalorian wars season all released at once or weekly??
Here’s the release schedule
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How do you know this? Disney's back catalog is unmatched. Their service at $6.99 is far, far, far more appealing than anything Apple offers at $4.99. Disney is going to dominate just from families signing up. Apple in my opinion, is always going to be last in terms of content and subscribers. There's a reason they are giving it away for a year. What other major service did that?

Amazon, Netflix, Disney, and eventually HBO Max are going to be in a class of their own. Apple is a tiny, microscopic blip on their radar.
How do I know? Because they have a century of content. People are bound to own a great deal of it by now. Cartoons for their kids, star wars and marvel, because, well, star wars and marvel. Hell, I've owned a great deal of it on VHS and then DVD and now UHD and rips. Any time we rent a house on vacation they're always loaded with Disney movies.

They give it away with the purchase of an apple product. But as I also listed, you can get the other services for free too. There's promos in a variety of places for all of them. So what?

Disney will do very well with their star wars and marvel series alone. That's to be expected. And i'll pay for it.
Not everyone likes the same things. Just because you don't like ATV+ content doesn't mean that others don't. I think it's great. Must one be bashed? Does one have to fail for the other to succeed? Why do you care so much? Pay for what you want to see and be done with it.
Don't bash others for enjoying what they enjoy.

There is room for everyone and we want more competition in this space. Should we not want them all to succeed?
 
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Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not both? I have both and Netflix and amazon prime. There is a place for all of them.

I agree with you.

I have Hulu, ATV+, Disney+, Prime and Netflix. I plan on keeping them all. Why - because they are cheap! If I was really worried, I'd skip a couple lattes and not take the family out to dinner a few times ;)

I would recommend people make a simple decision for themselves......does the service have stuff I want to watch and can I afford it - if yes for both then subscribe!
 
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I agree with you.

I have Hulu, ATV+, Disney+, Prime and Netflix. I plan on keeping them all. Why - because they are cheap! If I was really worried, I'd skip a couple lattes and not take the family out to dinner a few times ;)

I would recommend people make a simple decision for themselves......does the service have stuff I want to watch and can I afford it - if yes for both then subscribe!

I have AT&T Watch because it comes with 25 channels and it is only $14... I like it, most of the content is of my appeal.

I have Netflix because there is varied content and it is given to me by a family member, I do not pay for it.

And I have Apple TV+ because Apple gave it away to me for 1 year, otherwise I know for a fact I would have not subscribed after the trial period ended. In fact, I have not used it for days.
 
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I guess that's the blessing with Apple in this situation. Apple doesn't have a massive backlog of content like Disney, so they had to make sure that their originals were absolutely incredible (which they are). But that backlog of content has caused Disney to rest on its laurels, as it were. The thing is, most adults I know (including myself) wouldn't sign up for old content.

The Disney backlog ultimately stings, as I could have watched all/most of this backlog on Netflix, etc., before Disney removed them for their own service.

One new episode of Mandalorian a week (plus 4 kid reality shows, an adolescent high school musical - which doesn't have the Dickinson appeal to this adult, and an intriguing Jeff Goldblum series) are simply not enough. Disney had to launch with at least one Marvel series to even stand a chance. I'll give this another shot in a couple months when there is more original content.

Iger has said that Disney will be creating a huge amount of new content in the next year. Do you really think one of the brightest CEO around would launch a service this expensive to create and just leave it at reruns?


"When Disney+ launches, Disney will effectively end its Vault program — its long-standing policy of holding films back for exclusive and limited releases — as another incentive for fans to sign up for the service. The company is also rounding up a vast wave of original content for the service, with all divisions of the company helping to produce that content."

Iger said that Disney+ will be the most important thing he has ever done during his tenure with the company. The idea that Disney would be the only streaming service that doesn't ever produce new content is utterly ludicrous. Disney'shuge catalog content gives them an advantage to start with but it is all about making more in the streaming business.
 
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The other thing people are failing to mention about Disney+ is that the Star Wars films are all in 4K! For the first time ever!
 
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I have Netflix, which I rarely use. Want to cancel but my son wants it and I need to finish Jessica Jones first.

Amazon Prime video as it comes with my Amazon Prime subscription.

Apple TV+ because I have the 1 year free trial. I've only watched 'See' which I think is just 'ok.'

Most likely getting Disney+ for the Mandalorian.

Don't want CBS All Access, but with the Picard show coming and being an NCIS fan may persuade me.

Keeping Apple TV+ beyond the year? Not unless they come out with MUCH more content.
 
It doesn't make me wonder. Apple got into streaming for the same reason Amazon did, to act as another component of their services. It's logical that Apple, as well as Amazon would promote their products first where they reap 100% of the rewards, as opposed to a percentage of something else. The fact that Apple does get a cut if you sub thru the app is gravy for them, and an agreement of their platform.

Apple made nothing from me though, because I subbed thru Disney 23, so the money goes straight to Disney. Anyone else who also pre ordered didn't give a dime to Apple either, because Disney wisely held on to releasing the app until today, insuring subs went to them straight.

Oh look. Apple (App Store) sent me an email about downloading Disney +. And it only mentions Disney. Unlock the world of Disney it says. Now why would Apple do this for a competitor? Because Apple doesn’t see Disney as competition. They’re more than happy to sell Disney and take 30 percent. Btw. You’re probably one of a very few preordering Disney. I get a year free. Most will sub from the app.
 
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Oh look. Apple (App Store) sent me an email about downloading Disney +. And it only mentions Disney. Unlock the world of Disney it says. Now why would Apple do this for a competitor? Because Apple doesn’t see Disney as competition. They’re more than happy to sell Disney and take 30 percent. Btw. You’re probably one of a very few preordering Disney. I get a year free. Most will sub from the app.
Yup, you got me. I was one of the few suckers who don't have Verizon to get a year free, and instead subbed for 3 years $4 a month. I'm sure no one hopped on a deal like that...

https://www.businessinsider.com/dis...on-preorder-subscribers-jumpshot-data-2019-11

No one says Apple isn't going to promote a competitor for a cut. Just like Amazon on recently settled a deal in time for Disney + to show up. But Disney is a competitor whether you want to admit or not. You only have to read the multiple other posts who've had difficulty finding the app on Apple, with some finding it 30 results down in a search. No one's said Apple isn't making a cut, just that when the rush started for Disney+, Apple wasn't pushing it as the in demand well advertised app it was this morning.

If you're subbing from the app, I could argue that perhaps it was more wise to take a chance and order it from Disney at almost 50% off.

Congratz on the free year though.
 
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Gripping streaming content is something like Mindhunter. Apple has nothing close to that in terms of quality. I don't see teen girls lining up to watch a show about Emily Dickinson.

I meant gripping as a metaphor. Apple's content hold your attention while Mindhunter was derivative. Sure CSI: Netflix is popular, but keeping the audience ahead of the characters in the show is boring. Go ahead an quote Mindhunter's Rotten Tomato score and I'll remind you that it has the same score as Black Lightning. Of course you are right Apple has nothing of that quality; that was my point. Apple's stuff so far has been fairly original. Sure, The Morning Show premier did have a House of Cards vibe at first, but it got better.

Also, reason's you don't see teen girls lining up:
1. You wouldn't see people line up to watch a show they can access at home or on their phone.
2. You have no idea what teen girls are into.
3. You already dismissed the content so anyone who enjoyed it is less likely to talk to you about it.
 
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