Well, that is light leak, but it's probably the mildest I've seen on these forums. I would consider yourself lucky.
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Does anyone have a perfect screen?
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Well, that is light leak, but it's probably the mildest I've seen on these forums. I would consider yourself lucky.
when are you going to use the iPad in a perfectly dark room with a dark iPad screen such that minimal light bleeding will be distracting? probably never. If your iPad looks bad in normal conditions, then by all means, complain / return / etc. But, examining it under oddball conditions to look for problems is just frankly ridiculous. My iPad screen is perfect. Have I looked at a dark screen in the dark? no. I have no plan to ever do that. It simply doesn't matter. It looks perfectly good when I use it, and that's all that matters.
This is like complaining that your car rattles when you drive it 100mph... when you never actually drive it 100mph.
This is like complaining that your car rattles when you drive it 100mph... when you never actually drive it 100mph.
When looking dead on that "lit hue" is not present.....I put it under my desk trying to keep the reflection off, I angled it so I could get SOME light to pass through for the camera phone.....trust me, in this case it isn't there.....that photo you originally posted was like the last one I had.....this has none of that. I definitely consider myself very lucky
How can you say that's "light leak"? Aside from the photo not being the best quality, it looks exactly like what he said... the angle causing it to look like that which we can all duplicate. Now I'm beginning to wonder how exactly you are defining light leak/light bleed.
Bear in mind that digital cameras default imaging settings tend to emphasize contrast. Making any issue appear worse. This is an inexpensive product whose screen looks way better than anything else comparable in the price range IMO.
I don't think there is a significant problem here.
I don't think there is a significant problem here.
I don't think you know what you're talking about. I use my iPad to watch movies just before I go to bed, in the dark. On any 16:9 movie or TV show, the bleeding is obvious, and that's at 50% brightness. If you would have read the rest of the thread, instead of just posting your ill-informed opinion blindly, you would have read that.
There is nothing "ridiculous" about wanting a quality product after spending $875 on it, especially if the problems impact everyday usage.
You can obviously see the gradient of the LCD panel. The corners of my iPad look the exact same. The bleeding in this case is more than acceptable.
So if I tell you that it is not the case when looking at the device dead on, you do not take what I say as being accurate?
The one I had with the light leak had that on the corners and the sides no matter what angle I held it. This is not the case with this one. Once again, when taking that photo with my cell phone.....I placed it under my desk and kept moving the camera around to decrease glare and get a little light off the screen so it wasn't a big black photo. You asked for a photo of a perfect screen, I took one for you. Believe what you want to believe.....when I watch a movie at night in the same conditions you watch yours.....there is no leaking anywhere on the screen.....including the corners.
I'm not trying to dismiss what you're saying. I trust that it is just how you say it is, and I appreciate that you took the time to post the pic.
In all honesty, I'm actually jealous of the screen you have!
Good Lord people, the only decent photo was from the OP. ALL the screens have some backlight bleed, some less then others obviously. Of course, anyone could easily Photoshop the pic in a heartbeat but I think the main point, which has been previously expressed, is that the technology has its problems and some units should be replaced. I have also seen co-workers iPad's and ALL of them have had backlight bleed. Some worse then others, but I am not convinced that some have 'perfect' screens. Nontheless, enjoy your iPad as it is a great device and don't fret over minor bleed.
Just for the record.....I didn't photoshop anything.....believe it or not, there are some perfect screens out there......I'm enjoying my iPad regardless
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The entire surface of an LCD is backlit from behind by a light source (CCFL light) and the LCD blocks out the light that is not needed. Backlight bleeding occurs when this light is not 100% blocked allowing some light to "bleed" through the LCD causing spots of lighter areas on a dark or black background. Unfortunately, almost all LCDs suffer at least a small amount of backlight bleed because the opacity of LCD panels is not enough to block all light, though it only causes problems if it can be easily detected by the human eye.
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Well, actually unevenness is the cause. It may look perfectly even without a frame of reference, but the light is brighter the closer you are to the bulb. Or maybe not brighter... I should say it's dispersed more the farther you are from the source. Think of it this way: you have a piece of very slightly translucent black plexiglass or whatever, and you hold it up in front of a lamp across the room. You can't see much/anything through it. Put it on top of the lamp, and you can see light through it. Same general principle with an LCD, except instead of black plastic it's black liquid crystal.
There's really not much you can do about it... it's just one of the inherent flaws in LCD monitors. It may be possible to put some additional/better diffusing material behind the panel, which would probably help, but you're not going to get rid of it entirely without way more effort than it's worth.
The entire surface of an LCD is backlit from behind by a light source (CCFL light) and the LCD blocks out the light that is not needed. Backlight bleeding occurs when this light is not 100% blocked allowing some light to "bleed" through the LCD causing spots of lighter areas on a dark or black background. Unfortunately, almost all LCDs suffer at least a small amount of backlight bleed because the opacity of LCD panels is not enough to block all light, though it only causes problems if it can be easily detected by the human eye.
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Well, actually unevenness is the cause. It may look perfectly even without a frame of reference, but the light is brighter the closer you are to the bulb. Or maybe not brighter... I should say it's dispersed more the farther you are from the source. Think of it this way: you have a piece of very slightly translucent black plexiglass or whatever, and you hold it up in front of a lamp across the room. You can't see much/anything through it. Put it on top of the lamp, and you can see light through it. Same general principle with an LCD, except instead of black plastic it's black liquid crystal.
There's really not much you can do about it... it's just one of the inherent flaws in LCD monitors. It may be possible to put some additional/better diffusing material behind the panel, which would probably help, but you're not going to get rid of it entirely without way more effort than it's worth.
I've read enough of it... 100+ posts and counting (half by the OP)? on this "issue"? that alone tells me volumes about the nature of the person complaining about this issue; they won't let anything simply be. I see the same thing in forums about photography gear - people getting all myopic about the quality of the extreme corners of their lenses and so forth (i.e. pixel-peepers).
I've dealt with customers like this in my line of work (photography), and now simply avoid them if possible. If someone starts asking all this detailed information about my gear and workflow and so forth, I realize they'll never be satisfied with anything, and just walk. Sure, they're paying sometimes thousands of $ for the work I do, but I don't need those headaches. I have good friends who deal with the same kind of thing in general contracting work - nightmare customers who freak out if one bit of caulking is crooked, etc.
If this was really a bad problem, you'd be seeing volumes about it all over the web. If you truly had an oddball defective unit, you'd have gotten it replaced already, and moved on...
Again, if you would actually read the thread, you'd know that I CAN'T get a replacement, because they're sold out. I'm on the waiting list.
And, a simple Google search will yield many threads discussing this exact issue. If you expand the search to include dead pixels, you'll find exponentially more.
If the problem with the screen is impacting my day-to-day use, why wouldn't I seek a replacement? If you're not alright with that, then you don't have to respond.
I'm not looking for a perfect screen. I want a screen with minimal backlight bleeding... a screen that makes it possible to watch video content without intense spotlighting on the sides of the screen.
If you want to settle with mediocrity, be my guest. Me? I'm going to find a screen that meets my needs.
Doug, your picture is just a solid black image with no definition or reference to bezel / background. If you dont mind, can you post an image similar to the OP to see your perfect screen? At least post a decent picture to show us the amazing perfect screen that I highly doubt exist. Please, prove me wrong.
Doug, your picture is just a solid black image with no definition or reference to bezel / background. If you dont mind, can you post an image similar to the OP to see your perfect screen?
Actually, look at that image again, but view your monitor at a 45 degree angle. You'll see the image if you look closely.
my screen is perfect to ME. haha. I havent inspected it or looked for anything and id like to keep it that way cause if I see it its all ill focus on. ive had pretty good luck with screens. other then psps I got 1 when it first came out and it had a dead pixel.got it replaced and the replacement had a dead pixel. third time was a charm.
Actually, this picture is telling. The camera is picking up light from lightleak / bleeding as it is an obvious gradient from the corner into the screen. The light is being omitted from the iPad not the surrounding room as reflection. This is obvious. Also, the location is typical of where the iPad's tend to leak light. Again, this is obvious from the color of the black bezel as this pic shows at least a little contrast.
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Thats why I had to take that first image at an angle.....to avoid the results of the second photo That 2nd photo IS a straight on shot, there is no bleed and the photo has not been photoshopped
I'm sure some people here are shocked that they actually do exist and thought that those claiming to have perfect screens were all a bunch of liars.
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That 2nd photo IS a straight on shot, there is no bleed and the photo has not been photoshopped
Doug, your first image shows plenty of lightleak. You have already disproved yourself. But I guess you got upset and posted some black image that shows absolutely no perspective, nothing. Give me a break man... It's time to come to terms with it and stop the denial.
Again, post a decent picture and prove us wrong...
Doug, your first image shows plenty of lightleak. You have already disproved yourself. But I guess you got upset and posted some black image that shows absolutely no perspective, nothing. Give me a break man... It's time to come to terms with it and stop the denial.
I just I just don't get it... do people really not read the words in these posts?? He clearly explained why the first photo looked that way. Hold any LCD screen at an angle and you'll see what his photo showed. It's not light leak!