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iPhone 12 Pro Does ’s new on device CSAM policy affect your decision to upgrade?
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Not at all. Apple takes privacy really seriously and there's no evidence to believe that they've changed their thinking on that.
The way I took it is they're uploading an encrypted safety voucher with each photo that is uploaded to iCloud, then those safety vouchers are checked. Apple has no idea what your photo library looks like UNTIL a threshold of 30 photos is met and then and only then are those 30 photos visible to them to check for the unlikelyhood of 30 false positives.
Doesn't matter if you get flagged. If there's nothing illegal, they won't report it to authorities and if they do somehow report innocent photos to authorities, then they'll just go... yeah, there's nothing wrong about those photos. There must've been an error.
You do realize when you use Siri, those recordings are processed on Apple's servers right?
Except they just announced to change direction by 180 degrees
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How so? Your data is still private.
I wont be upgrading to ios 15 or getting the next iphone. I might go with the google pixel. At least google doesnt sugar coat it.
Its not. Its accessed and assessed by an entity that is not me. My data are noone elses business and shall not be accessed by anyone but me. It certainly shall not be assessing my private data
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I'm sorry to say, but your data isn't 100% safe when storing it on someone else's server. That server can get hacked. The likely hood of your individual device being hacked is much less likely to occur. It's more secure, not less.
Again, if you don't want to be a part of that 1 in a trillion statistic of having 30+ false positives and having those 30 innocent photos viewed by Apple, then simply don't participate in iCloud Photos or throw away your device. You either trust Apple with your content or you don't. Don't simply say you trusted them up until this point because they haven't done anything wrong.
Nope, I’ll still grab the 13. Do I worry this creates a slippery slope? Yes but I still feel my privacy is more secure than on a android device at this point so I’m fine. Maybe with iOS 16 that’ll change
I won’t update until I’m forced to.
In the meantime, I have stopped using iCloud completely…no photos, no emails, no calendar….nada. I now backup locally and have canceled my iCloud subscription. I’m also canceling Apple TV just because I feel like it.
In the meantime, I have stopped using iCloud completely…no photos, no emails, no calendar….nada. I now backup locally and have canceled my iCloud subscription. I’m also canceling Apple TV just because I feel like it.
Good. I think everyone that has a problem with Apple's software should do this. Vote with your wallet. Make them lose customers! Teach them a lesson! That's the only way they'll learn that we won't accept this.
Upgrading. It is a non-issue and I read all the complaints why this is a problem. It just isn't a big deal to me.
Yeap, but then I decide when to trigger Siri, have listen to Hey Siri and everything like that disabled. If they're listening, means they are complying with how they told me it worked.....more reason to distrust them.
In the same exact sense, since you’re trusting them with the way Siri works, why not trust them in the way this works as well? Turning off iCloud Photo Library completely disabled this hashing process because unless the photo is being uploaded, it’s not scanned or hashed.
So first some verified proof that Apple is scanning people’s photos online would have to be presented to me. But then secondly, it would have to be explained to me why, if that’s the case, that they now need to do what they are planning in iOS 15 if they are already scanning for things on their online services.
Can you explain that?
Its on the device. Its gonna be activated even when iCoud is off, its just a question of time.
Oh yes, they have done something wrong: they built a snitch into their operating system, despite their sales pitch promising to protect privacy. Now they do the exact opposite. And they make promises they MUST be aware they cannot keep, which is pretty dishonest and is suspicious regarding their intentions
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Dell XPS Developer Edition (Running Ubuntu) and Pixel 5 (flashed with GrapheneOS)
You say that like it’s a guarantee, but you have no idea if that will happen.
Apple could erase everyone’s iPhone if they wanted to, that doesn’t mean they will.
Of course there is some truth to it.
My problem with mentioned feature is: activation/deactivation is a question of policy, not capability. Plus the whole system makes no sense considering iCloud Photos only, since they could do it on server.
It looks like the feature has been developed with local scanning in mind - and they pulled back. due to the ensuing outcry
So the capability is there, pressure will be there and considering the above I fully expect this to be rolled out for all photos, iCloud and local, once the dust has settled. The probability is high imo
But yes, you are right, that part is of course speculation. We‘ll know when they announce it (or not)