Then however were they able to manufacture the Mac Pro in the United States for the past 5 years?
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Donald Trump Says Apple Won't Be Granted Tariff Relief on Mac Pro Parts Made in China: 'Make Them in The USA, No Tariffs!'
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Then however were they able to manufacture the Mac Pro in the United States for the past 5 years?
I suppose that would be on brand, but then he would have been proud of it and continued using it over and over again, just like an eight year old child.
Instead, he made up an unbelievable (and easily disproven) lie to try to cover it up, just like... an eight year old child.
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Trump is a clown and an embarrassment to all Americans IMHO but whether he is right or wrong here remains to be seen I just think that "make everything in the USA no matter what", mantra is stupid. All nations need to work together and share/buy/sell resource, labour and expertise.
Not everything can be made there and in some instances it's better to make outside the US.
Not everything can be made there and in some instances it's better to make outside the US.
Actually Trump deleted the original tweet and reposted a corrected one later on. MacRumors presumably re-linked to the corrected tweet, but did not update the article stating so.
The jobs ARE coming back. I'm in New Jersey, Amazon alone has created an economy in towns that didn't have one. This is just within the last 5 years, and they are still building more. Interestingly, half these warehouses are robotics, and the other half are thousands of people.
And it's not magic to train a factory worker other skills. I work in property management now, we are chomping at the bit to get some decent maintenance guys with some basic skills. The problem is a lot of these kids going to college are looking to come out for office jobs. The trades are starving for people, and many are willing to pay for the schooling and training to get people in. What do you think happens to the factory worker making $14/hour learns a skill and a trade and now earns $18.50/hour as an apprentice and earns more as he/she gets better? Higher taxes? More spending? more important than that, happier at work?
It's not a magic wand, it's common sense. Give business more incentive to come back to the country and dissuade others from leaving, more companies stay, more jobs are created. And as far as the argument that the pay is stagnant? There has been a 4% increase from last year to this year.
Look, hate the guy all you want, but look at your 401K and mutual funds now compared to 3-4 years ago, look at yourself or your friends/family/neighbors that were struggling with work and money 3-4 years ago compared to now. Look at where the country was at as a whole economically 3-4 years ago, look at the country's credit rating 3-4 years ago compared to now. We were told by high power people in October and November of 2016 that if Trump was elected, the economy would go into a tailspin we would never be able to recover from. The day after he was elected, the stock market soared to record highs and continues to roll. Something is working.
This is the first Trump article on this site that didn't breed seething anger and hatred in the forums. The biggest complaint is a misspelled word.
If Trump starts going after America's most successful and loved corporation, he'll be locking down his place in history as a failed one term president.
I doubt Apple cares. The customer foots the bills in tariff wars.
If some people on this board are to be believed, people who worked at those plants, supplies were always limited as everything was flown in.
Sigh. It’s not just the factories. It’s the tooling and skills and the actual parts.
USA could fit all their tooling manufacturers in one room. China would need dozens of football fields.
People in China train for specific specialised skill. Westerner tend to get broader skillsets. The education is not currently based towards engineering in the USA. And trumps education policies are only beneficial for the elites. Funny that.
The previous machine was assembled in the USA but parts came from everywhere. The problem here is even if it was assembled in the US. (Which I do agree they should have) Trumps tarrifs will be affecting it.
Of course Apple will ask to be exempt. Car companies have asked for things to be exempt for Them but y’know Apple will get the press.
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It was basically assembled. The case and frame was the only part made in USA.
The more I hear about Trump the more I realize that the president in the US has way too much power on his own. It’s like almost having a dictator
You spelled "ruining" wrong.
Trump is a hypocrite and it’s funny to see people here saying, “yeah! America!” When most, of not all, of Trump’s and Ivanka’s product lines are made in China. Hahaha. That’s the intelligence of the American people. Follow blindly. Don’t think.
So okay the UK is falling apart with the same we can do it ourselves mantra, but we cant and neither can the US because these other countries are set to make components on mass by the trillion for every PCB on the planet almost (yes there are exceptions) so trying to set that kind of process up on the scale needed in your own country let alone find the workers to fill the jobs isn't that simple, let alone the massive rise in cost of production that will get passed on.
Why do people not realise iPhones made in china shipped or flown to the USA, UK etc are cheaper (well Tims idea of cheap and mine vary greatly) but even after that vast amount of handling and travel the cost its still cheaper than making them in in your back yard.
Yes its a great idea but in practice if you need a plumber you call one not wait for one to get there qualifications and set up shop nearby and hope he is has a cheaper quote too. Why try to set up factories and make components when they are already there on mass to purchase and cheaply too. I'm not going to get into the politics of the US but this kind of idealism is foolish and dangerous I believe, exactly the same as is happening here. Hey we have 120 trade agreements and on the 1st if November none! Each one can take 5 years plus to set up, and we wont be in a strong trading position when desperate. Keep what you have, outsourcing works for a reason and the companies making semiconductors cheaply have been doing so for years with huge factories and are damn good at it.
Its a bit like bit the EU being known as a hard nosed negotiator and we are about to tear up all our agreements with them and start from scratch again. It will be expensive and painful and a disaster for the economy and put many products out of the reach of many people, rather like building and manufacturing components in the USA. World trade is a good thing, not something to be demonised by world leaders that only see the small picture, well that's how as I see it.
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I'll bet Dell does.
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Especially since I doubt Apple would have lowered the price if they got the exemptions.
Yeah, his first round of tariffs cost me $200 more for a bicycle. China sure paid for that. Yep...
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Amazon isn't creating jobs, they are creating more indentured servants.
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Especially since I doubt Apple would have lowered the price if they got the exemptions.
Yeah, his first round of tariffs cost me $200 more for a bicycle. China sure paid for that. Yep...
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Amazon isn't creating jobs, they are creating more indentured servants.
By using a highly automated factory to produce comparably small and uniform units in relatively low volumes, and importantly this factory only produced the enclosure and performed final assembly. But this unit is larger and more complex, and Apple could be expecting higher volumes, both of which may present substantial trouble for automation.
Wow for a minute i thought that was a noun at the end there, it's not what I'd call him. His tariff moves are not constructive and protectionism is a dysfunctional way to manage trade.
In my opinion this president does not rock anyway, he flails.
Also your post is missing a /S or else an emoji, I recommend this one:
It's adorable that you think Amazon “jobs” are jobs in any meaningful sense.
Even their actual high paying jobs in Washington state, in a nice comfortable office, are crap from what's been leaked to the press. Apparently desks are still made from repurposed doors.
However, those aren't manufacturing jobs and many of mthe., despite paying $15/hour have no benefits nor retirement that were the norm with manufacturing jobs. All those delivery jobs? $15/hour, not a bad wage, but not one that has much of a path forward a that is as much as the delievry company can pay and make money.
I agree on thetrades, espcially skilled ones such as HVAC, where local companies are having a hard time hiring. But again, none of the jobs you mentioned are manufacturing jobs that represent factories reopening. Of course, a smart kid would take the training and then jump ship for a different company with a pay raise ASAP.
Excpet tariffs tend not to do that hurt companies that need materials are taxed, and are just a hidden tax on consumers. What happens to your properties when supplies such as light bulbs go up 25%? Suck it up or raise rents? Either way someone loses.
Yesd, Pay is finally satrting to rise, as is job mbility which should drive wages higher.
If you look at the recovery from the Bush recession Obama already had the economy growing quite well, the growth rate under Obama and Trump, as well as the rate of unemployment decline is about the same.