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Steve Jobs was a perfectionist but his genius was so much more than that. Silly comparison.
 
No, because Dre is a rapper and Jobs was a brilliant software and hardware developer.

Actually, I don't know much about Dre, I'm sure he's done a lot of awesome stuff in his lifetime--I just don't see this as a racism issue which you seem to be trying to make it.

No Jobs was not a brilliant developer.
But he was good at finding good developers and also good at foreseeing what will sell and what will not.
And Dr Dre seems to have good vision too especially if you take into account where his career started.
 
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. The vast, vast majority of the buying public don't care. They like Beats. Why they like them is immaterial. They just do. The argument you're posing is better served on a forum like Headfi, not MR.

Bolded from your quote: Doesn't matter in the real world. You're talking about control and texture in the lower frequencies. That is forum talk for forum people. Mass market consumers don't care.


You're 100% correct. I could see that by page 2 of this thread.

It's a shame. It took me a while to work up the stomach to pay $400 for a pair of headphones. It blows my mind that some people buy $400+ headphones that sound so horrible. I'd love to share some of my rigs with them :shrug: You can get some greate stuff at that price point.
 
Guys, Apple is going to be re-designing and re-engineering the Beats headphones! Get over it!

Go play World of Warcraft or something! LOL!

It's Friday night, there are better things to be doing than to still be arguing about this same topic!

That's what I said...
 
What kind of moronic "insight" is this? Are you kidding? Apple needs Dr Doolittle to bring the "Cool Factor" to Apple? What?? The best part of this story is how DR Dinky Doo will be working with hardware. Yah I don't think that would go over very well. [new "iPhone Beats" with 4in subwoofers and head strap]
 
You're 100% correct. I could see that by page 2 of this thread.

It's a shame. It took me a while to work up the stomach to pay $400 for a pair of headphones. It blows my mind that some people buy $400+ headphones that sound so horrible. I'd love to share some of my rigs with them :shrug: You can get some greate stuff at that price point.

Most of us don’t listen to music in situations where having a truely excellent set of cans will make a difference. The only time I ever sit down to appreciate music like that, I usually do it in a concert hall, because live.
 
Yep.

They ask themselves. Why does HE get to have all that money. Then they bring up stuff like he smokes weed (Jobs did LSD), beat a woman (Jobs treated people harshly). People seriously think a black guy can't do the same as a white guy and when he does their inner closeted feelings begin to show.

Jobs abandoned his own daughter in poverty for a long time while he was making 100s of millions!
And He mistreated her after accepting her in his life !

He did not give a rats ass about original apple employees as he offered them 0 shares in the company!
He was a genius in certain areas no doubt but (by most standards) he would qualify as a Psychopathic Narcissist as well!
 
People only talk about Beats' sound here. What about the build quality?
 
Simply ask yourself this: if Jobs wanted to aggressively invade the headphone market, would the product have sounded like Beats?

Naw, probably more like “Apple”. Steve was pretty attached to that whole single-brand-image thing.

Or wait… was that not what you meant?
 
Simply ask yourself this: if Jobs wanted to aggressively invade the headphone market, would the product have sounded like Beats?

I think Steve would have been interested in the planar magnetic or electrostatic type cans. Considering the push for 'retina' and resolution at the end of his career, I think he would have wanted the same for audio.
 
He did design hardware and software.


He helped design the hardware layout in Breakout, Apple 1, Apple 2, Next Cube, and I'm sure countless of other undocumented instances.


He didn't engineer hardware and software, but he sure as hell helped design them. And in the rare scenarios when he did either of the two, it was brilliant work.


Learn your history

You go learn history. Saint Jobs didn't design software or hardware. If "helping design" is actual coding, then ****... I'm a software designer too!!! But all I did was tell the programmers what works and doesn't in the real world for the software they were designing that our customers would use.

Saint Jobs was Brilliant in getting talented people to think beyond the status quo.

Period!
 
Oh please

And still sold his company for $3 billion. :cool:

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You mean besides paying attention to every little detail, release very few products and most of them being outright hits? :rolleyes:

try to compile some other phrase, that one isnt that great or accurate!
 
What kind of moronic "insight" is this? Are you kidding? Apple needs Dr Doolittle to bring the "Cool Factor" to Apple? What?? The best part of this story is how DR Dinky Doo will be working with hardware. Yah I don't think that would go over very well. [new "iPhone Beats" with 4in subwoofers and head strap]

Um, whoa. I can see you frothing at the mouth from here. It’s consumer electronics. Is it really that big a deal?
 
Most of us don’t listen to music in situations where having a truely excellent set of cans will make a difference. The only time I ever sit down to appreciate music like that, I usually do it in a concert hall, because live.

So then would you agree than Beats are just $400+ jewelry if the consumer doesn't take the time to enjoy the music?
 
No one can and never will be compared to Steve Jobs. Sorry, Dre is awesome and has a ton of good music and artists under his belt; He will never come close to being like Steve Jobs.
 
You go learn history. Saint Jobs didn't design software or hardware. If "helping design" is actual coding, then ****... I'm a software designer too!!! But all I did was tell the programmers what works and doesn't in the real world for the software they were designing that our customers would use.

Saint Jobs was Brilliant in getting talented people to think beyond the status quo.

Period!

Jobs designed the hardware layout in many of his products. He designed the calculator for the Macintosh, when he had 10 minutes to spare, which Apple used for more than 15 years

He designed MANY aspect of the Apple retail stores.


If Jobs was a full time designer, theres no doubt in my mind that he would be one of the worlds best.
 
No one can and never will be compared to Steve Jobs. Sorry, Dre is awesome and has a ton of good music and artists under his belt; He will never come close to being like Steve Jobs.

Yup specially when it comes to taking credit for others vision and work!
 
Build quality has been in a couple posts. They are notorious for breaking after a couple months.

You know what else is notorious for breaking after a couple months? iPhones. Drop it a few feet JUST SO and boom! More like diePhone, amiright? …Guys?

Seriously, though, I’ve heard from dozens of Beats owners that the build quality is quite nice and they’re very reliable. My own limited experience with them would indicate the same. So a few people had one that broke after a few months and are very vocal about it? Well, the same goes for iPhones. People always tell me that iPhones break really easily, despite my several iPhones not having even been scratched. There’s far too much of your statement that relies on personal use case, and since that’s different for each person… well, that kinda renders any arguments that rely on it invalid.
 
No, because Dre is a rapper and Jobs was a brilliant software and hardware developer.

On the contrary, Jobs knew little about electronics, and Wozniak says Jobs never programmed a single line of code in his life.

He did design hardware and software.

Nope. He didn't know how to do those things. That's why he hired others who did.

He helped design the hardware layout in Breakout, Apple 1, Apple 2, Next Cube, and I'm sure countless of other undocumented instances.

Steve Jobs did none of that. He couldn't. He didn't have the knowledge to do so.

Steve Wozniak did the Breakout update (Jobs cheated him by lying about the payment amount), and the Apple I and II. Neither did the hardware for NeXT.

Part of the reason why Apple fired Jobs in the first place was because his technical ignorance kept getting in the way of things. A famous example is when he ordered the Mac team to make its memory lines prettier on the circuit board. The engineers explained to him that this would cause cross-talk, but Jobs ignored them and made them do it anyway. Sure enough, the board failed to work. It was a waste of time.

Ironically, I think it was his technical ignorance that helped him later on. By not knowing how hard it was to do things, he was not deterred in asking for his workers to implement them.
 
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