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I believe since the iPhone is going to be on its 10 year anniversary next year that it's going to be a complete redesign. I also believe that it's not going to be the iPhone 8, that it's going to be a new name. 30 years down that road and the iPhone isn't going to be called the iPhone 37. Think realistic people. Apple has a huge milestone coming up next year so this is going to be huge next Apple event.
 
The space that used to belong to the aux jack, now is taken up by a larger taptic engine. That was the change. The cameras are on the opposite side (top) of the phone. The battery isn't significantly larger, the improved battery life is mostly due to the new A10 processor. I'm not sure what real advantage the larger taptic engine will provide that really justifies crippling the iPhone 7 to the point where it can't walk and chew gum (use headphones and charge) at the same time w/o expensive and/or kludgy adaptor combinations.

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And they will lose customers that have no interest in wireless headphones because of it.

I've never had a BT earpiece or headset last longer than 6 months. I don't abuse my gear... I have a walkman and plenty of other gear, including radios, cameras, etc, older than many people here, but wireless ear-things tend to self-destruct in months. Way too expensive and unreliable for me to depend on. If Apple makes that the only headset option moving forward, they'll lose my future business.
Perfect, don't like it don't buy it. Apple is a business they'll do what makes them money, the little feedback site won't do crap for you if they still sell like previous models have. I don't understand the argument for keeping the stupid headphone jack though. If you don't like wireless (since you can't seem to buy a pair that lasts like the rest of us has) used the wired ones. They do include them for free. Don't like EarPods buy some when they come out, don't want to buy more, (even though you seem to have no problem buying bluetooth after Bluetooth) use the adapter. Don't like the adapter? Then don't buy the damn phone. Complaining about lack of audio quality with Bluetooth use the freaking digital connector.

I'm sure you made just as big of a deal with floppy drives and then parallel ports and then drives and you probably still kept buying macs, just like you'll probably buy this iPhone or at least the next one when you realize it's not a big deal.
 
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I doubt I can afford the most awesome 10 year anniversary edition that's super expensive and has cheramic body and diamond screen lol..

I just need a phone that works, and that the Apple phones look great really helps. But I don't buy one for the fashion. And it kinda feels that's what Apple is leaning towards to.

Too true, and they don't always work either, although I trust by now the third year of the same design they've got it right. On mine when I place the phone horizontal in imessenger the keyboard still stops working, it's fine in any other app like this forum so it's a software bug. I hope they've fixed that with the 7.
I won't be buying from Apple anyway, I'll buy it elsewhere where you can get unlocked phones and 2 year warranties. Just in case.

What is pathetic though is I believe they have made fake holes on one side on the bottom, yet to be confirmed, but if so then they made more holes to collect more gunk and dust over the year it spends in a pocket!! Just so it looks pretty.. A PERFECT example of form over function, and fasion before functionality....
 
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This is what really sucks about the current Apple. They make design decisions based on profit concerns. There would be not way in hell Jobs would not out a high end camera on the mid-size phone it was technically possible. He would charge for it, but he would not cripple the product just to "differentiate the high-end line". Galaxy S8, here I come...

You're leaving because you can't get a dual camera and a 4.7" iPhone?
 
The 4.7" model is high end in everything but camera, which is limited by available space.

Wrong as many see the iPhone 6 camera as one of the best. This will include the 7 too, it has a high end sensor and flash and capabilities, the plus just has more. It is incorrect to label it as not being high end just because it lacks dual cameras.
 
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As for video recording with the iPhone camera. There are some often overseen features. For me personally the iPhone video camera is the best phone camera. It stands out even more than the photo camera because of 1080p60 and "Cinematic Video Stabilization".

The good old "Cinematic Video Stabilization" (which is way better for wide-angle videos than the "Optical Stabilization" in my honest opinion; since iPhone 6) will likely work even with the iPhone 7 Plus' telephoto lens (which apparently doesn't support "Optical Stabilization"). Can't await to see some demo of telephoto video shots made with the iPhone 7 Plus.

If you're interested… Here you have some unedited examples of the Cinematic VS (iPhone 6):

Tests der iPhone-6-Videokamera (The blog is German-language but you'll find the embedded videos anyway).

Note (obviously nobody knows that): The Cinematic works fully automatic but you can't see any effect in the viewfinder while recording with the rear (main) camera. Rely on your iPhone, it just works. The stabilization will be applied by saving the file (an invisible execution). You can see it (the perfectly working stabilization) immediately when you playback your video clip. You can't switch off this software solution (and there is absolutely no need to); it just "costs" some mm wide-angle—compared to the photo frame.

Try the advanced Cinematic Video Stabilization out immediately! It's there since iPhone 6! Switch to "video" in the camera app. Hold your iPhone with both hands horizontally and make some smooth pans. Or shoot while riding a tram car or a bicycle. It's gorgeous. Almost like a professional steadicam equipment!! Watch your carefully made iPhone videos on your large TV set. It's utterly unbelievable! Magic. For some friends and me it's the best iPhone feature.

When the iPhone 6s Plus came out I tested it's new Optical Image Stabilization thoroughly. It seems to have almost no effect on videos. It's definitely NOT better on videos than the Cinematic. But since there's some stabilization even on 4K videos I'm pretty sure that the software stabilization will work on iPhone 7 Plus' telephoto videos.
 
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I think next year will see 3 phone models. 7S , 7S Plus and a Special commemorative edition that will be more expensive but be a an all singing all dancing glass and hopefully liquid metal design. 16MP Camera, No Home Button, Bezzeless, induction charging and Airpods as standard.
 
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People seem to think some businesses make decisions based on something else. Like when they attribute good or evil to them. It's not good or evil, it's profits.

Jobs ran a different kind of business. Yes, he cared about profits because he knew that without profits his vision was useless. But that's the difference, the profits weren't the goal, the vision was the goal and profits were one of many necessary steps to that goal.
 
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After 9 yrs of iPhones, I'm not updating this time. Features are mediocre, and the design is outdated compared to samsung's line. I'll wait for the 2017 iPhone and will probably switch to a Note 7 after the battery fix until the iPhone 8/X is available.

The Note 7 is beautiful, making the iPhone 7 look like garbage.

Exactly my point of view. I know it will hurt me, because I love integration between MBP and iPhone, but I gotta checkout that gorgeous 5.7" display in a smaller body.
 
Optical zoom (ie. Dual camera) is a niche appeal for large devices. I guess we'll see this on iPads now. /sarcasm.

It's like saying power windows are a niche appeal for large vehicles. Desire for features are size independant.
 
Not sure if you got the memo, but it's not there and it won't be coming back.
Only horrible sales numbers will bring it back. I'll do my part.
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They said it helps them make the phone water-resistant. Not that they couldn't do it without the change. But the main points they made were Lightning, wireless and internal space. You can disagree that those are good reasons, but they aren't totally illogical. I'm not defending Apple, but nothing is stopping you from using the Lighting headphones that come free in the box, using the adapter with any wired set or buying and brand of Bluetooth headphones. There are many companies that are not Beats or Apple who make them. Bose to name one. And as a last result you could switch to Android or use a 6s or SE—many options.
Time to pick up a 6s.
 
I'm not happy with Apple deliberately crippling all of their products!

AppleTV: has a usb port, but you cant connect an external drive and playback media natively
Mac Pro: $4,000 but it comes with garbage 5 year old GPU (and there are NO upgrades!)
iMac: Sells for $3,000+ but has to downthrottle the CPU due to extreme heat (lack of airflow) and ships with a mobile GPU in a DESKTOP
MacBook: Soldered RAM and glued on battery
Apple Watch: Useless without the iPhone, but the iphone renders the watch useless anyway...?!
iPhone: No headphone jack, limited customization, no file browser, etc?

WHY DOES APPLE CRIPPLE THEIR PRODUCTS LIKE THIS??
So very very true. So we (my husband and I) are exploring alternatives. Building our own desktops computers as you did likely will work well in most respects for us, as we've done that before. And my husband is much happier on Samsung Gear watches. (I still favor Apple Watch since Samsung pretty much admitted they don't care about women because we are not a profitable market for them).

However smart phone alternatives among the competition are giving us our fair share of headaches and wth? moments, too, unfortunately. I put one foot out the door but I'm not leaving until I see how everything plays out in 2017. That should be a very telling year. Android manufacturers are stepping up their game at a very fast pace, but in my admittedly limited experience so far they aren't making it as easy to jump ship as I would like.
 
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Not solutions, work a rounds to an Apple created problem. I thought Apple was about making life easier for customers not more difficult/inconvenient. BT was already there for those who want to use it. 3.5 mm jack for those who need or perfer it. I guess I'll run my 6s for as many years as I can.
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The only reason that really makes sense to me is RF interference as was mentioned in an interview. The headphone jack is an unbalanced audio port (unlike say, XLR which is balanced) so it could be susceptible to having components too close without proper shielding and such, I really don't know for sure, but it is unfortunate.
Clearly Samsung has the better engineers, they figured it out. Audio port still intact, waterproofing intact, fire breathing batteries, new feature. :eek:
 
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How many iPhone models/versions did a Jobs led Apple release each cycle... 1. Not to say the one-size fits all approach for phones was the best, just that Jobs seemed much more focused on making the best product for each category rather than trying to appease every niche.
He did. I think the phablet market taking off would have had even Steve changing course a little, though. A compromise between what Steve did then and what's going on now might be in order.
 
Initially ordered an iPhone 7 Plus. Cancelled the order (good news for customers who want one, lol).

Reason for cancelling the order:

1. No OIS on telephoto camera.
2. No 4K video at 60fps (A10 chip is fast enough for this).
3. No reduction in the front bezel.
4. No 4K screen (madness considering it captures 4K photos and video).
5. No USB-C.

I did not mind that the headphone jack was removed or no wireless charging/ quick charging provided. With 8K around the bend, the phone captures great 4K photos and videos yet still a 1080p screen. I get it it's too small to notice a difference or it will take a battery life hit. However when viewing an image or video in 4K it's best to replay or review on a 1:1 display without conversion.

My 6S Plus is working out rather well, I find that many of the apps do not use the A9 capabilities after a year of owning this device. The "A" family of chips are great, however not a lot of apps are using it to its potential this includes Apple sadly.
 
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While Apple is playing games with artifical crippling and delaying the features others will move on with dual cameras, edge to edge screens and much more. Go on Tim, shoot Apple in the foot.
I would not go that far. First off, the competitors implementing dual cameras are doing so on much larger devices. Or thicker devices. I don't think putting a single lens in the iPhone 7 is intentional crippling. The dual module looks like it takes up quite a bit of space. We smaller phone fans can't have everything. This is as close as I've seen Apple come since the introduction of two size classes to giving the smaller phone parity with the larger phone, at last as much as chassis size and battery life considerations will allow. I think they should bump up the screen dpi but that might eat away at battery capacity and necessitate a bump in thickness. I would be fine with that but that's not how Apple rolls.

I loved the Edge screen on my Note 7 before everything blew all to hell and the recall took it from me. But I have seen a lot of bashed in corners on edge models, including my husband's. I wonder if there's a bit of an issue there. It's just a suspicion some folks and I are wondering about. Time and factual accounting of repair statistics will tell.

Even many Samsung fanatics, not casual users but loyal customers on various other boards, are complaining about Edge screens and furious Samsung seems committed to this direction and abandoning flat screens altogether. The people who seem most enthusiastic about them are converts from iPhones, like me. For us it's a super cool novelty. Note did implement it beautifully. I had no false touch problems.

But they are impossible to get fitted with good glass screen protectors that don't pop up when used with a case. I think if Apple did play the waiting game on edge displays, it was to see how the fad plays to the end users. It is costly to repair these screens. Had Apple implemented them right away, consumers would have been raging about the replacement costs. For all we know, they might be exploring their options to avoid fragility and another "bendgate" type of knock on their reputation.

I'm in as huge mood to kick Apple in the tail right now as anyone. But if I am going to criticize them, I do want to be called out on going overboard or being unfair.

So I'm calling myself out. I made some sharp remarks about Apple keeping to proprietary lightning instead of jumping on the USB-c standard and now I'm reading bits of things here and there about possible safety concerns over this standard not being implemented properly by even reputable names. I'm waiting to see if there was anything at all about USB-C having anything to do with exacerbating the faulty battery issue on Note 7 to such an explosive degree, pun intended. I'm not confident, however, that any such problem will ever be publicly revealed.

Apple has always been slow and steady like a tortoise. When they try to get something out fast like Apple Watch 1 they get chewed a new one for it. They can't please everyone.
 
"While an attractive addition for avid picture takers and professional photographers,..." Professional photographers? Really? The pros I know have lenses worth more money than my pickup truck. I doubt any of them are drooling over a telephone takes pictures.
 
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