I’ve perused these forums long enough to know your tactics. If you cannot defend a stance, you divert. I get it. But let’s recap:
I have been around these forums long enough to know when a poster can’t admit they are wrong such as accusing apple of “raping” them with prices they resort to insults, name calling, or labeling.
You tried pinning rising storage costs on android which is silly in it’s own right. I showed you an article ‘one of many available’ that lays out factual profit margins that Apple sees by charging a very large dollar amount to the consumer beyond what they pay for the storage components. Doesn’t make Apple wrong, but it something they have always done. It’s an observation, one that you took such issue with that you actually suggested the authors be ones not to be taken seriously. Lol nice.
No I pinned rising storage prices on market conditions, namely, demand has outstripped supply.
One of the reasons apple was part of two different groups simultaneously bidding on toshibas semiconductor business, one of the groups actually bought it in June. Bain capital.
I blamed android oems that overestimate demand and waste components such as memory, nand, lithium ion, etc etc. Components that are scarce, which essentially what drives up prices.
I could blame apple as well but when they have an oversupply of components due to a lack of demand they actually repackage it and continue selling them to customers, I didn’t buy a 5c or an se but I appreciate that they didn’t slash prices on the 5 or 5s just to dump it onto the market, hello essential phone. That was wasteful.
it’s basically apple and android oems.
No one else.
So, I counter your year-over-year defense by stating that profiting off of customers’ needs to the extent that Apple does, doesn’t necessarily make it better. Now you’re throwing the whole “if you don’t like it don’t pay it” at me. Ha.
So to you profiting is ok but apples “extent” is not.
Please educate everyone on what range of profit is acceptable, Because you decided for everyone.
Well done.
Here’s the deal. Again. Apple charges much, much more for a storage increase than it costs them in component price. No one said it’s ‘wrong’. I know I didn’t. But I can at least acknowledge they do so and not try blaming android and suggesting Apple ‘needs to’ in order to compete. It’s rather obvious what Apple is doing. Do you think starting at 64gb is accidental? Have you not read that the most popular storage this release has been 256gb? Did you do the math from the article I quoted you to see how much Apple benefits from this? Pretty clear that Apple knows, starting at 128gb like the Note 9 does, would allow so many folks to save money and avoid going 256gb. But that didn’t happen did it...
Where did I say “need” to?
So you can prove apples component prices, because if you can actually do that I have a job waiting for you at several of the top equity firms around London. Seriously, there will even be a signing bonus.
But if your using analyst lowball estimates, from the very same analysts that claimed the iPhone was not selling last year, because of price or....wait for it.... an excess of components, then all I can say is.
Great example with Samsung, since Samsung semiconductor fabricates their own nand, it’s not really a fair comparison. But apple was part of the consortium that bought toshibas semiconductor business back in June to secure enough components going forward, you know because market shortage.
“Apple is worried about NAND supply to fuel its business.
There are excellent reasons for NAND producers to be conservative with their capacity plans.
The combination of events points to constrained NAND supplies through the balance of the decade.”
https://seekingalpha.com/article/<l...icle/4066143-will-apple-take-bite-toshiba" />
You’re right. No one is forced to pay Apple what they are asking. No one is forced to buy higher storage iphones.
Ok
But your incessant defense of everything Apple does is interesting, and exactly what they count on to continue jacking up prices. You are the perfect Apple customer.
You call correcting misconceptions between storage tiers and pricing tiers defense, that’s inaccurate. Perhaps claiming apple prices are getting more expensive, again inaccurate.
Correcting inaccuracies is considered by some as defensive or apologetic behavior. WTH, that makes no logical sense.
How about being a little more accurate.
You don’t need a business or finance degree to be more accurate, you do need one to analyze and understand business or industries, but not to be accurate.
Actually I was the perfect vertu customer.
Apple is so much cheaper compared to a vertu handset. It’s actually laughable. But sure why not.
Motorola star tex, Motorola aura, first razr.
Nokia 8800 sirocco, bang Olufsen serene
All over 1300k at the time, each one, guess what, there is a market for it. And no you couldn’t do more than call on most of them some, so yeah to some the iPhone X’s and it’s price isn’t so bad.
So what was your point again?
I couldn’t put it any better nor agree with you more. I am all for those who have upgraded and I fully understand them doing so. This is my first year not upgrading on launch to the newest iPhone. There are some who will assume that it’s because someone like me doesn’t have the money. And that’s not the case. I’ve just decided to put that money elsewhere. Next Sept may be different.
That’s cool, but to expect everyone else to do the same just because. Is presumptuous and honestly napoleonic.
Ha!! You even quoted my reply to another member that had nothing to do with you and attacked that too!!
