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AbSoluTc said:
Trying to understand why one persons posts are prioritized over another? Already posted a 2022 14 thread and another member wasn't happy about that and requested I delete it. Then they go and post the same thread the next day. I've been supporting MR for many years and really don't understand what's happening. Maybe someone can elaborate on that please instead of a canned response/warning.



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I’m not sure what those kinds of threads even contribute anyway. They only really seem to be there so people can artificially inflate their post count.

I’m also appalled by the fact that people are treating this as a race to be first.
 
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Dino F said:
......you are joking right?

Why should U.S get its own thread and the U.K not??!?

The world is also bigger than the U.S - sorry......(to use your own words).
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Get in there @Dino F


This is getting silly now. We are making issue out of nothing.
Two US threads should have been merged and other posts should have been left as it is.
Its a known fact @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 starts US thread every year but a US member this year had to start a duplicate thread

We UK folks have no issue with @Jinjin starting the UK thread every year.

And let me repeat this again ...

WE UK FOLKS HAVE NO ISSUE WITH @Jinjin STARTING THE UK THREAD TO INFINITY AND BEYOND.
 
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jav6454 said:
Then it'll be by who posts it first as all threads have a date/time stamp. But that's why a mod should just make it. Yes, agree a US and a Worldwide thread should exist. The world is bigger than the UK sorry.
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Not being provocative but that is a pretty hypocritical statement!

I have zero qualms or quarrels over who creates the post, but region specific (and I talk of the UK thread in this case) is massively important for the many, many people who participate in the discussion. There are numerous differences which are region specific which are heavily discussed

  • the different carrier deals and upgrade which are UK specific
  • the differences in payment options
  • the nuances in things like the iPhone payment programme which are UK specific
  • differences in the logistics for delivers (which make up a huge part of the enjoyment for people leading to receiving their new phones)
  • users sharing best deals when reselling handsets in the UK
the list goes on.. having these bundled into one larger bucket will lose all context, making the thread impossible to follow
 
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Jinjin said:
Not being provocative but that is a pretty hypocritical statement!

I have zero qualms or quarrels over who creates the post, but region specific (and I talk of the UK thread in this case) is massively important for the many, many people who participate in the discussion. There are numerous differences which are region specific which are heavily discussed

  • the different carrier deals and upgrade which are UK specific
  • the differences in payment options
  • the nuances in things like the iPhone payment programme which are UK specific
  • differences in the logistics for delivers (which make up a huge part of the enjoyment for people leading to receiving their new phones)
  • users sharing best deals when reselling handsets in the UK
the list goes on.. having these bundled into one larger bucket will lose all context, making the thread impossible to follow
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Jinjin said:
ps.. If we change the UK thread title from

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release, Orders and Dispatch Thread'​


to

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


can we go back to doing the one thing we all want.. just to start enjoying, preparing and looking forward to what may come in September.
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100% agree with this. ☝🏽

This is only fair and treating everyone with respect so no one feels left out.
 
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Sal09 said:
Get in there @Dino F


This is getting silly now. We are making issue out of nothing.
Two US threads should have been merged and other posts should have been left as it is.
Its a known fact @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 starts US thread every year but a US member this year had to start a duplicate thread

We UK folks have no issue with @Jinjin starting the UK thread every year.

And let me repeat this again ...

WE UK FOLKS HAVE NO ISSUE WITH @Jinjin STARTING THE UK THREAD TO INFINITY AND BEYOND.
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As the mods have clarified, there certainly is no issue if @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 or any other member gets in there to start a legitimate thread first. However, I also believe there should not be entitlement on this...or have the staff create the thread. As the saying goes, not my house, not my barn.

However, with these types of mega-threads there should be some "rules" around them.
- Not too overly broad in subject -- or for overly broad titles allow other threads with some overlap
- Not too overly broad in region
- Regional threads should be started by those who claim to live in the region etc.
 
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JayAgostino said:
I’m not sure what those kinds of threads even contribute anyway. They only really seem to be there so people can artificially inflate their post count.

I’m also appalled by the fact that people are treating this as a race to be first.
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Honestly, it was never about inflating the post counts. It never has. The threads were made to have fun… so we can talk about which product we will be ordering, which case, which accessories, and so on. The threads are there to help others. It’s never been a competition.

If people want their post count up. They need to start engaging as I do and other high-ranking members do every day. It’s simple as that.
 
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I7guy said:
As the mods have clarified, there certainly is no issue if @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 or any other member gets in there to start a legitimate thread first. However, I also believe there should not be entitlement on this...or have the staff create the thread. As the saying goes, not my house, not my barn.

However, with these types of mega-threads there should be some "rules" around them.
- Not too overly broad in subject -- or for overly broad titles allow other threads with some overlap
- Not too overly broad in region
- Regional threads should be started by those who claim to live in the region etc.
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So would it be ok if I start a U.S thread:

'U.S. iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


And @Jinjin start a UK thread:

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


Willing to collaborate with everyone with respect. Can we please agree to this and put all this to an end. All the rules the mods/admins mentioned will strictly be followed.
 
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
So would it be ok if I start a U.S thread:

'U.S. iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


And @Jinjin start a UK thread:

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


Willing to collaborate with everyone with respect. Can we please agree to this and put all this to an end. All the rules the mods/admins mentioned will strictly be followed.
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anyone could start them.. I was suggesting renaming the existing (in wasteland) as I'm lazy :)
 
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TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
So would it be ok if I start a U.S thread:

'U.S. iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


And @Jinjin start a UK thread:

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


Willing to collaborate with everyone with respect. Can we please agree to this and put all this to an end. All the rules the mods/admins mentioned will strictly be followed.
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Sure. As the mods have clarified, any member can create any discussion thread as long as it is within the rules. There is room to have multiple threads discussing various aspects of the iphone 14...or any other iphone.
 
I7guy said:
As the mods have clarified, there certainly is no issue if @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 or any other member gets in there to start a legitimate thread first. However, I also believe there should not be entitlement on this...or have the staff create the thread. As the saying goes, not my house, not my barn.

However, with these types of mega-threads there should be some "rules" around them.
- Not too overly broad in subject -- or for overly broad titles allow other threads with some overlap
- Not too overly broad in region
- Regional threads should be started by those who claim to live in the region etc.
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Agreed re mods clarification but why cant we members come to an understanding that these two can carry on starting these threads as per usual.

e.g @Banglazed starts a new thread every time new iOS update is released. No member on here including me have any issues with that because the amount of effort and time he puts into starting them threads and keep them going no body on here can achieve that level. And ive got huge respect for @Banglazed for everything he does and I will have no one else but him start them threads.

@TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 and @Jinjin do the same for pre order and new launches every year and all of a sudden we are talking about mods should start the mega thread or any other members and etc etc.

We should appreciate these members who put so much effort into starting threads.
 
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Sal09 said:
Agreed re mods clarification but why cant we members come to an understanding that these two can carry on starting these threads as per usual.

e.g @Banglazed starts a new thread every time new iOS update is released. No member on here including me have any issues with that because the amount of effort and time he puts into starting them threads and keep them going no body on here can achieve that level. And ive got huge respect for @Banglazed for everything he does and I will have no one else but him start them threads.

@TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 and @Jinjin do the same for pre order and new launches every year and all of a sudden we are talking about mods should start the mega thread or any other members and etc etc.

We should appreciate these members who put so much effort into starting threads.
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As I understand the rules, members can participate in whatever way suits them and is aligned with the macrumors membership agreement. As I also understand it, creating threads with specific topics is not reserved for MacRumors members that are not moderators or staff. Or said another way, it is my understanding that forum members are not entitled to create threads with specific topics.

Again, as I understand it threads can be created by any member in good standing as long as the thread meets the MR user membership agreement. No member should be entitled to own a thread title, imo. As much as I participate in the threads @Banglazed posts, he/she/they do a great job, but they are not entitled to create that thread in perpetuity.

And I agree with the sentiment, maybe the mods should start these mega-threads due to in-fighting and bad feelings about who got there first.
 
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Jinjin said:
ps.. If we change the UK thread title from

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release, Orders and Dispatch Thread'​


to

'UK iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max Pre-release Thread'​


can we go back to doing the one thing we all want.. just to start enjoying, preparing and looking forward to what may come in September.
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@annk @Weaselboy @NoBoMac is this compromise acceptable? This takes into consideration what the mods/staff want and what us, the users of the forum, want. A compromise.

As for who starts the threads, I think in the U.K. we aren’t too bothered as we will always let @Jinjin create it. But @Jinjin has conceded that it doesn’t bother them if someone else does. So that won’t ever be an issue for the U.K.
 
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johnyslats said:
I think regional threads still have a massively important role to play. Both the US and UK threads are huge in size and follow completely different dispatch patterns. The threads always throw up questions specific to the country and I’m not sure the Macrumors community will want to search through a ‘non-US’ mega thread. Why should it be a US vs the world situation?
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It shouldn't, it should just be one thread. Like in the MacBook Pro forums.
 
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Dino F said:
......you are joking right?

Why should U.S get its own thread and the U.K not??!?

The world is also bigger than the U.S - sorry......(to use your own words).
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Agreed, just pointing out the fact that having two threads is pointless. Best keep it as the MacBook Pro forums have it. One thread to rule them all.
 
Jinjin said:
Not being provocative but that is a pretty hypocritical statement!

I have zero qualms or quarrels over who creates the post, but region specific (and I talk of the UK thread in this case) is massively important for the many, many people who participate in the discussion. There are numerous differences which are region specific which are heavily discussed

  • the different carrier deals and upgrade which are UK specific
  • the differences in payment options
  • the nuances in things like the iPhone payment programme which are UK specific
  • differences in the logistics for delivers (which make up a huge part of the enjoyment for people leading to receiving their new phones)
  • users sharing best deals when reselling handsets in the UK
the list goes on.. having these bundled into one larger bucket will lose all context, making the thread impossible to follow
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It's meant to expose the fact that having too many threads for one reason, pre-ordering. One thread for all should be enough. It is for Macs, why not for iPhones?
 
Sal09 said:
Agreed re mods clarification but why cant we members come to an understanding that these two can carry on starting these threads as per usual.

e.g @Banglazed starts a new thread every time new iOS update is released. No member on here including me have any issues with that because the amount of effort and time he puts into starting them threads and keep them going no body on here can achieve that level. And ive got huge respect for @Banglazed for everything he does and I will have no one else but him start them threads.

@TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 and @Jinjin do the same for pre order and new launches every year and all of a sudden we are talking about mods should start the mega thread or any other members and etc etc.

We should appreciate these members who put so much effort into starting threads.
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No user should have entitlement to a specific topic. That is exactly what this whole thread is about. In the end, whoever makes the first thread, keeps it. Which is why this who discussion can be eliminated by having modserators be the ones that make the threads. This way we get rid of this senseless dogfighting over the sticky/mega-thread.
 
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jav6454 said:
It's meant to expose the fact that having too many threads for one reason, pre-ordering. One thread for all should be enough. It is for Macs, why not for iPhones?
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One of the main reasons being is that an iPhone is often tied to a network contract. Then you have trade-in offers, retailer queries, etc. (which of course are all true for Macs too but not at all to the same extent).
 
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Saladin12 said:
One of the main reasons being is that an iPhone is often tied to a network contract. Then you have trade-in offers, retailer queries, etc. (which of course are all true for Macs too but not at all to the same extent).
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There is a reason why a first post can be a Wiki with all relevant info there on a region/region basis. I fail to see the issue.

The problem is people have issues condensing the information and you get extra-long first posts no one reads.
 
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