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[andyw715]

If there needs to be some random date where this type of thread is allowed (previous years have been weeks up to 2 months prior to iPhone Day), how about the day of the official Apple invite to iPhone Day event?

That usually a least a week (two?) before iPhone Day. Would give enough time to discuss what is known, pre-ordering pro-tips (for those newcomers), where to find shipping info, etc.

Basically all the time and effort @TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 has put into this and previous thread wiki post - to get it started.

 

[icanhazmac]

I've read through a good chunk of this and am still genuinely confused as to why anyone wants or needs a pre-order / delivery status thread months before an announcement? What could you possibly discuss? You cannot place pre-orders so you cannot discuss them, you will not have delivery times to discuss as you cannot place orders. What am I missing?

You are free to have iPhone14 rumor threads, feature threads, case threads and accessory threads for this upcoming device but specifically there is no use in having a thread for pre-orders you cannot place or discuss delivery on items you cannot order.

 

[icanhazmac]

So basically A Mod or Mods have decided this year we are not allowed to start any threads relating to iPhone 14 until after the keynote. Is that correct?

No, as I read this you cannot start a thread specific to pre-order / delivery status for a device that has not even been announced yet. You are free to discuss rumors about this device and its size, features, colors, etc.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

You are free to discuss rumors about this device and its size, features, colors, etc.

On those Pre-Order threads. For the next 2-3 months this is what we were discussing size, features, colors, etc. Helping each other out which iPhone to get after Apple announces it. It is like having a Bible before ordering a device. Why? Because many iPhones also tend to get back ordered after the launch. You be surprised many people are even scared to upgrade their iPhones and stuff because they don't know much however the thread was able to help those who needed help knowing about the Apple products. It also helped MacRumors with the new visitors along with people signing up as a contributor on this site.

 

[icanhazmac]

On those Pre-Order threads. For the next 2-3 months this is what we were discussing size, features, colors, etc. Helping each other out which iPhone to get after Apple announces it. It is like having a Bible before ordering a device. Why? Because many iPhones also tend to get back ordered after the launch. You be surprised many people are even scared to upgrade their iPhones and stuff because they don't know much however the thread was able to help those who needed help knowing about the Apple products. It also helped MacRumors with the new visitors along with people signing up as a contributor on this site.

I hear you but I also see the...... oddity of a pre-order/delivery thread for an unannounced product, especially MONTHS before we all believe it will be announced.

Create a thread for iPhone14 upgrade?, upgrade anxiety, features, sizes, accessories, etc, as long as it doesn't say pro-order/delivery and I think you will have a blast.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I hear you but I also see the...... oddity of a pre-order/delivery thread for an unannounced product, especially MONTHS before we all believe it will be announced.

Create a thread for iPhone14 upgrade?, upgrade anxiety, features, sizes, accessories, etc, as long as it doesn't say pro-order/delivery and I think you will have a blast.

The thread is meant to be One-Stop shop. It's there for everything otherwise we will have many threads open. If you have not join the pre-order thread. Please do so. They are fun and very helpful.

@Sal09 started a new iPhone 14 cases thread that was also shut down.

I'm praying and hoping we can come up with a compromise. All respects to the moderator's decision.

 

[Apple_Robert]

There are already open threads discussing possible size, features, and all the possible rumors about the iPhone 14. There really is no point in creating another thread (under the guise of Preorder) to discuss the very same things. I don't understand why several here are so hung up on wanting some kind of compromise, when there is nothing stoping you from participating in ongoing active threads. As such, a request to the staff in this regard makes no logical sense at this point in time, outside the fact that a few want to have their own mega thread.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

There are already open threads discussing possible size, features, and all the possible rumors about the iPhone 14. There really is no point in creating another thread (under the guise of Preorder) to discuss the very same things. I don't understand why several here are so hung up on wanting some kind of compromise, when there is nothing stoping you from participating in ongoing active threads. As such, a request to the staff in this regard makes no logical sense at this point in time, outside the fact that a few want to have their own mega thread.

@Apple_Robert Not hung up on. You have chimed in on Pre-Order threads with us too. I know you also had fun. Remember when you ordered the iPhone 13 Mini. It was fun having you around. You also made a good contribution as well. I remember you helping out others as well.

These threads are made to bring us together as a MacRumors community yearly. Many of us stop by just so they can participate. After they get their iPhones. They leave and they don't log in back. You see them the following year. However, many do tend to stay.

 

[AbSoluTc]

Mega threads are just becoming too huge and encompass too much. Pre-order threads should start when the phone is announced, revealed honestly. Like someone said, gives about two weeks.

Everything else is/can already be discussed.

 

[Apple_Robert]

@Apple_Robert Not hung up on. You have chimed in on Pre-Order threads with us too. I know you also had fun. Remember when you ordered the iPhone 13 Mini. It was fun having you around. You also made a good contribution as well. I remember you helping out others as well.

I remember. I am not against preorder threads. I like them. I just think what you guys are asking here at this point in time is redundant and not needed, especially since there are many ongoing threads about the same subject you want to have your mega thread about. Why not participate in the ongoing threads on the same subjects until it is appropriate per the staff to start a mega thread? In the years I have been a member, that is how it has been done and it has worked well. If it isn't about wanting to be the author and unofficial overseer of your own mega thread, why the push to the mods to create early redundancy?

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

If it isn't about wanting to be the author and unofficial overseer of your own mega thread, why the push to the mods to create early redundancy?

I don't want to push the mods to create early redundancy. All rules and guidelines are being followed.

I think the best solution is to re-open the threads. Move them out of the Wasteland to an iPhone. Merge the two U.S. Threads together. People are starting to wonder what happened and this does not look good.

Again, I respect whatever decision moderators decides to make.

 

[AbSoluTc]

I don't want to push the mods to create early redundancy. All rules and guidelines are being followed.

I think the best solution is to re-open the threads. Move them out of the Wasteland to an iPhone. Merge the two U.S. Threads together. People are starting to wonder what happened and this does not look good.

Again, I respect whatever the moderators decides to do.

I think a mod should create the thread. Leave the others in wasteland.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I think a mod should create the thread. Leave the others in wasteland.

I also respect this decision. I just hope it does not create too much work for the Mods. It is at this time we need a poll system, hah!

 

[I7guy]

I don't want to push the mods to create early redundancy. All rules and guidelines are being followed.

I think the best solution is to re-open the threads. Move them out of the Wasteland to an iPhone. Merge the two U.S. Threads together. People are starting to wonder what happened and this does not look good.

Again, I respect whatever decision moderators decides to make.

It doesn’t make sense to have a “pre-order” thread until there is something to order. I believe it’s confusing to this website (and not a good look) to have these searches pop up on google. To me it makes sense to allow these types when there is something to actually discuss and order, which is after the announcement.

Now maybe take the thread out of wasteland and rename it to the “iPhone 14 Excitement” thread….or create another thread along those lines.

 

[NoBoMac]

Moderator Note:

Locking the thread for now. We will unlock when there is any new information, updates.

 

[annk]

Here's some clarification about the issues addressed in this thread:

1. Product speculation threads are fine. "Pre-order" threads may be started once a product's pre-order date has been announced by the product vendor, e.g, Apple.
2. Duplicate threads are routinely merged or removed. Users are always encouraged to check to see if there's a relevant existing thread and contribute to that one before starting a new thread. We consider it to be a disservice to other members if users compete to start a certain type of thread, especially if they try to have the other user's thread or posts removed so they can take the credit.
3. If you think a post is out of line, report it. Do not tell other users to remove their posts or send private messages to specific volunteers or staff members to try to circumvent moderation by the moderator team.
4. Users may not name a thread "merged" or "official" or in any other way imply that they are approved or created by MacRumors.

 

[I7guy]

Here's some clarification about the issues addressed in this thread:

1. Product speculation threads are fine. "Pre-order" threads may be started once a product's pre-order date has been announced by the product vendor, e.g, Apple.
2. Duplicate threads are routinely merged or removed. Users are always encouraged to check to see if there's a relevant existing thread and contribute to that one before starting a new thread. We consider it to be a disservice to other members if users compete to start a certain type of thread, especially if they try to have the other user's thread or posts removed so they can take the credit.
3. If you think a post is out of line, report it. Do not tell other users to remove their posts or send private messages to specific volunteers or staff members to try to circumvent moderation by the moderator team.
4. Users may not name a thread "merged" or "official" or in any other way imply that they are approved or created by MacRumors.

IMO, a thread should have a specific purpose and not be so general as to preclude other threads being created with a different focus. For example, naming a thread "Iphone 14 all models 2022-2023 global discussion thread" should not be permitted.

 

[jav6454]

IMO, a thread should have a specific purpose and not be so general as to preclude other threads being created with a different focus. For example, naming a thread "Iphone 14 2022-2023 global discussion thread" should not be permitted.

Agreed. I would also add that a master "Pre-Order/Order/Arrival/et al" thread be made by a mod and placed as a sticky. This way it covers all devices and in-fighting among users ends as it will be the one thread that no one owns.

I believe the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air forums have a thread just like that.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Agreed. I would also add that a master "Pre-Order/Order/Arrival/et al" thread be made by a mod and placed as a sticky. This way it covers all devices and in-fighting among users ends as it will be the one thread that no one owns.

I believe the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air forums have a thread just like that.

If a master “Pre-Order/Order, Arrival/ et al”, gets approved can we please have it separated? One for the U.S. and one for the folks in the U.K.

@annk stated: Product speculation threads are fine. "Pre-order" threads may be started once a product's pre-order date has been announced by the product vendor, e.g, Apple

Come, Pre-Order announcement date/time frame. I have a feeling many people will be starting out the Pre-Order thread at the same time and we may go through the same situation again. The Mods will be busy closing down the duplicate threads. 😔

 

[jav6454]

If a master “Pre-Order/Order, Arrival/ et al”, gets approved can we please have it separated? One for the U.S. and one for the folks in the U.K.

@annk stated: Product speculation threads are fine. "Pre-order" threads may be started once a product's pre-order date has been announced by the product vendor, e.g, Apple

Come, Pre-Order announcement date/time frame. I have a feeling many people will be starting out the Pre-Order thread at the same time and we may go through the same situation again. 😔

Then it'll be by who posts it first as all threads have a date/time stamp. But that's why a mod should just make it. Yes, agree a US and a Worldwide thread should exist. The world is bigger than the UK sorry.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I believe the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air forums have a thread just like that.

Last November, I solely started a MacBook Pro 14" and 16" thread. Also, left a disclaimer for the people. The thread made it easier for people to place their orders for the latest MacBook Pro 14” and 16”. It was just well organized and helpful. People were not getting confused with ordering other mac's.

💻 👨‍💻 🌎 MacBook Pros 14-Inch and 16-Inch Pre-orders, Orders and Delivery Status Thread - USA & Other Countries (2021) 👩‍💻 💻 🌏

👏 Congratulations to everyone who received their 14" or 16" MacBook Pro on Tuesday, October 26th, 2021!!! 💻 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-pros-14-inch-and-16-inch-pre-orders-orders-and-delivery-status-thread-usa-other-countries-2021.2315434/page-226?post=30520523#post-30520523...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Then it'll be by who posts it first as all threads have a date/time stamp. But that's why a mod should just make it. Yes, agree a US and a Worldwide thread should exist. The world is bigger than the UK sorry.

I'm sorry. I should have said the U.K, and all over Europe (Covering the whole region).

 

[I7guy]

Last November, I solely started a MacBook Pro 14" and 16" thread. Also, left a disclaimer for the people. The thread made it easier for people to place their orders for the latest MacBook Pro 14” and 16”. It was just well organized and helpful. People were not getting confused with ordering other mac's.

💻 👨‍💻 🌎 MacBook Pros 14-Inch and 16-Inch Pre-orders, Orders and Delivery Status Thread - USA & Other Countries (2021) 👩‍💻 💻 🌏

👏 Congratulations to everyone who received their 14" or 16" MacBook Pro on Tuesday, October 26th, 2021!!! 💻 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-pros-14-inch-and-16-inch-pre-orders-orders-and-delivery-status-thread-usa-other-countries-2021.2315434/page-226?post=30520523#post-30520523...

forums.macrumors.com

I believe the point here is there should not be any entitlement to the claim of a thread title. (and I have no dog in this race, since I wouldn't create one and don't usually participate in them). First post is the one that stays and others get merged. Or staff creates the threads so in-fighting over a thread title does not occur.

And as I stated my opinion above, with an example of a title that I believe should be moderated in some fashion. In order to not lock out future posters from making threads, the thread title should not be overly broad, so others can discuss different aspects of the same premise --- without thread duplication.

 

[johnyslats]

Yes, agree a US and a Worldwide thread should exist. The world is bigger than the UK sorry.

I think regional threads still have a massively important role to play. Both the US and UK threads are huge in size and follow completely different dispatch patterns. The threads always throw up questions specific to the country and I’m not sure the Macrumors community will want to search through a ‘non-US’ mega thread. Why should it be a US vs the world situation?

 

[Dino F]

Yes, agree a US and a Worldwide thread should exist. The world is bigger than the UK sorry.

......you are joking right?

Why should U.S get its own thread and the U.K not??!?

The world is also bigger than the U.S - sorry......(to use your own words).