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DxOMark: iPhone XR is 'Best Single-Cam Smartphone We've Tested'
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Translation: "every other manufacturer in the XR's price bracket gives you at least 2 lenses"
I know this is anecdotal but we had Pixel 2's for a week, Verizon service blew where we are, had to go back to att. Anyway, we both think our glalaxy s9+ take a better picture than the pixels did. Tbh the wife and feel they are the best cell phone cameras we've had.
Where is the Google Pixel 3/3 XL??? Dont tell me they got worse lol. I read this article specifically to see how the pixel 3 stood up to the iPhone XS
Did you look at the pictures on something other than the phone you shot them on? I know it's an odd question, but Samsung tunes their displays like TV manufactures do for in store comparisons. The iPhones tend to be more natural and Pixels fall somewhere in the middle (and it is configurable on the Pixel). I know the Pixel 2 camera looked terrible viewing the pics on the Pixel 2 because of the notoriously bad Pixel 2 display.
Maybe he has an android phone and doesn’t like it as it gives iPhone a good grade..who knows.
Thank you. Nailed it. Far too much “ Pixel Peeping” in 2018. Photography has always been subjective. I’ve been making wildlife and landscape images my entire adult life. 10 individuals looking at an image will see 10 different creations. If what one uses pleases their inner photographer then there is no need for anything further.
Is it safe to assume that most consumers can’t differentiate between the XS and XS Max photo’s even if they were different?
It was never relevant until Google and Pixel fanboys makes the score to be a big deal, as if that's the de-facto determining factor of camera quality. Then every manufacturer uses it as a marketing tool and benchmark.
[doublepost=1544225894][/doublepost]Of course, the ultimate "insult" is when people chose Pocophone's picture over iPhone/Galaxy/Pixel.
(referring to MKBHD's blind test)
What a fantastic camera. My wife and I shoot with a D750 and D500 for a mixture of photography. My dream camera for landscapes and Astrophotography is a D850. Unbelievable camera. The smartphone cameras are excellent point and shoots but fall apart incredibly fast when you zoom in. Hell, I’m still happy with some of the shots taken on my 7 Plus. Top I shot with my 7 Plus and bottom with Nikon D500. Two totally different shots of course.
Respectfully disagree, the nexus/pixel line has its following. Also google is reading the writing on the wall, their biggest consumer, Samsung, is likely to push their Tizen OS into future phones.
Here's a good example: Microsoft experience with hardware was bumpy, but now they own a respectable growing share with the surface, heck, even apple imitated them
My favorite phone is the SE. I had a few weeks the X, did not like it for several reasons and had for 2 weeks now the Xr. Gave it back, my SE is just fine. Fits in my pocket, got a headphone jack and a real home button.
The camera was always brilliant to me. Now, many seem to try Android, hell, I have to use for some work an Android, a Xiaomi A2 lite, a iPhone X clone in the budget range (180 Euros).
Honestly, it’s impressive. To big, sure, like all new phones but what the Chinese managed to put into this phone is quite something. The screen is higher res then the 4 times more expensive Xr. It has true dual sim. It features a headphone jack. A 4000mAh Batterie (3 days, no joke) an IR blaster! a toy, sure but incredible useful, and an incredible 4k movie camera.
I have pictures made by my old 5S, the SE, the X, the Xr and this Xiaomi.
Same conditions, same motiv over the years. If you show these pictures on a large calibrated screen next to each other and underneath it says the phone they have been shot with, the Xr will always be picked as the winner.
If you show them one by one, with mentioning of the phone, the SE comes out more often on the top spot.
If you show them one by one without the phone model, its anybodies guess, you could throw the dice, nobody knows.
All together without phone model and its the same, more then once the $200 Xiaomi emerged victorious.
I think we reached a point where the pictures we see are only in the eye of the viewer better or worse but all are on such a high level that point and shoot cameras become obsolete.
Even worse when you use different programs, sorry, “apps” to interact with the camera. The Xiaomi for instance can not shoot 4k video with the native app. However, a free app from the play store and voila, full 4k that rivals the iPhone.
I would not give too much for these “ranking” with 1 or 2 points difference in the top 20 spots. The top dog usually also has the most ads on the site.......
The camera was always brilliant to me. Now, many seem to try Android, hell, I have to use for some work an Android, a Xiaomi A2 lite, a iPhone X clone in the budget range (180 Euros).
Honestly, it’s impressive. To big, sure, like all new phones but what the Chinese managed to put into this phone is quite something. The screen is higher res then the 4 times more expensive Xr. It has true dual sim. It features a headphone jack. A 4000mAh Batterie (3 days, no joke) an IR blaster! a toy, sure but incredible useful, and an incredible 4k movie camera.
I have pictures made by my old 5S, the SE, the X, the Xr and this Xiaomi.
Same conditions, same motiv over the years. If you show these pictures on a large calibrated screen next to each other and underneath it says the phone they have been shot with, the Xr will always be picked as the winner.
If you show them one by one, with mentioning of the phone, the SE comes out more often on the top spot.
If you show them one by one without the phone model, its anybodies guess, you could throw the dice, nobody knows.
All together without phone model and its the same, more then once the $200 Xiaomi emerged victorious.
I think we reached a point where the pictures we see are only in the eye of the viewer better or worse but all are on such a high level that point and shoot cameras become obsolete.
Even worse when you use different programs, sorry, “apps” to interact with the camera. The Xiaomi for instance can not shoot 4k video with the native app. However, a free app from the play store and voila, full 4k that rivals the iPhone.
I would not give too much for these “ranking” with 1 or 2 points difference in the top 20 spots. The top dog usually also has the most ads on the site.......
What I would suggest: use the compare photo tool at gsmarena.
You can compare photos taken by different phones in many scenarios. Let your eyes be the judge !
I fully agree. Instagram compresses more than Twitter, which gave different results on some tests. That being said, the vast, vast, vast majority of people sharing pictures from their phones do so on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. There are hobbyists and professionals that use other services, but by and large, Instagram is the place to be. And that's the thing, the cheaper phones don't produce better photos, but they produce photos that people want, as told by these tests. And this is where things get tricky. Instagram and Snapchat etc are quick consumption apps. People don't look at the pictures for any great length of time, or zoom in etc. They quickly flick through and double tap ones they like instinctively.
How many times have you heard someone say their phone has a great camera, only for them to just show you a picture on their phone, or on Instagram? I get it all the time. We have reached a point where AI and the post-processing of photos matters more to the public than the quality of the sensor and lens. HDR is pretty much on by default on most phone cameras, yet it isn't a true representation of what your eyes see. Even on iPhone, when HDR is on and you take a photo, it can be completely different from what you see in front of you. But that's what the masses want.
I’m lost. I said I think Google realizes they need a hardware focus? I agree with everything you said here.
Agreed! To me it is the best iPhone to date!!!The XR is such a misunderstood product... reminds me of iPhone SE in that sense.
I guess I like these types
The new pixel’s night mode makes it impossible for the iphone to compete. All phone cameras are garbage. It’s the processing software that makes them shine. When it comes to machine learning algos, google is number one, and apple didn’t even qualify for the race.
You can, there is a field called Computational Physics that deals with exactly that - modelling the chaos.
Unfortunately cell phone photography is still utter crap for anything elae besides small screen showing. You have to really retocuh the hell out of it to use it for print or use video for big screen. So in that way DxO is irrelevant they are there to take you chinese manufacturers money to rank them on top or anywhere else on the.chart.
Cell phone photography is all about subjective pleasure and its a hit or miss depending on the actual shot. There is no such thing as one cell phone does it better than the rest. That's nonsense.
Just few days ago we were shooting semi lit interior scene with lit staircase and Xs has failed to small Sony XZ2 compact single lens. It couldn't match dynamic range no matter how many times we've tried. I was amazed actually. Then we had Xs completely fail again to small Sony in pitch dark outdoor scene that left us wondering if Xs is even working properly. And od course there were times where Xs destroyed Sony depenign on light conditions and few times in the same pitch black environment but with different angle. Both were pretty bad at dusk outdoor portrait shots so maybe some Chinese would best them both in same shooting conditions.
Video was even bigger surprise as Sony can do HDR video and at blazing sunny day it looks a lot better than Xs while at dark it completely fails to Xs unless you turn it off. Both suck at 4k video. No matter how much they want you to believe that FullHD and 4k are only matter lf resolution it really isn't. FullHD 30fps is still where the best quality video resides.