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The media is going to go nuts if the design stays largely the same!

Four years is too long for the same design.
Four years? The design that we have now is from 2014 for the iPhone 6.

Two tears. That's the same hardware design cycle (for major changes) the iPhone has followed since 2007.
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This is dumb, I'm sorry. There is definitely no way apple has decided on the final version of the phone by now and stuff like this shouldn't get press.
Quite the contrary, in order for their manufacturing plants and supply chain to be ready for launch in September, the hardware design has to be final long before March.
 
Stereo speakers - both on the same side of the phone when in landscape? That would make no sense. I really hope that this is just some random case built from rumors. While we're this far out, I think that would be the most likely situation.
 
And when the competition removes their 3.5mm Jack? What will you do then?

Do you honestly think Apple would remove a universally used port, if the competition weren't also in a similar position of needing to remove their Jack as well?

This notion of Samsung removing the headphone jack is nonsense. There is no NEED to remove a headphone jack. It's a choice. Apple may be (I'm still not convinced) removing the headphone jack because they are choosing to use that space differently. Samsung and others do not have to make that choice. In fact, they would be wise to retain the 3.5mm jack because it is part of the phones primary functionality.

I'd argue that most people use their headphones with one primary device like their phone anyway.

Like many people I use my headphones on multiple devices. I use them on my work computer (a Dell.) I use them on my home computer. I use them on friends phones when they want to share something. I'll either need an adapter to plug in my headphones into an iPhone 7, or I'll need an adapter to plug my lightning headphones into a 3.5mm jack.

Oh, and let's say you're right about Android dropping the jack too. In that case I'd need an adapter to plug either headphones into the Android's micro-USB (I'm assuming) jack. They certainly aren't going to use Lightning headphones.

And then we're back to the days before the iPhone when every phone had a different connector for headphones.

I purposely chose to skip the 6S so I could get a 7 but it looks like I may be regretting that decision and buying either a SE or a 6S anyway.
 
Maybe Apple will increase the quality of sound? And at the same time increase Apple Music sound quality, this would be a good reason to remove the headphone jack.

Apple LOVE people like you.

You cannot increase the quality of sound through the design of the jack. I know it's been explained before but I'll try myself:
  • Audio on an iPhone starts compressed digital audio.
  • The audio is then "decompressed", and you get a series of 1's and 0's in raw digital format.
  • This data is then fed into a chip known as a DAC (Digital Analogue Converter).
  • You can get cheap crappy DAC's or high end expensive DAC's. Apple generally uses higher quality DAC's, although it has been noted the 6S has a poorer quality DAC to the 6. However, having said that, unless your headphones are ultra sensitive, it probably won't bother you.
  • The signal that emerges from the DAC is analogue audio.
  • This is then fed through an amplifier circuit in the phone, through the 3.5mm jack, to your headphones so you can hear the audio.
Where I've highlighted the text, is where the quality is established.

It has sweet nothing to do with the jack.

Now lets repeat the same journey with a Bluetooth headphone.
  • Audio on an iPhone starts compressed digital audio.
  • The audio is then "decompressed", and you get a series of 1's and 0's in raw digital format.
  • Digital audio is then passed onto the Bluetooth controller on the phone.
  • Luckily, Apple supports AptX which offers a much higher quality codec stream, so audio is re-compressed into this format and transmitted over digital radio signals.
  • Not all headphones support AptX, so if this happens, the re-compressed audio will lose quality at this step.
  • The digital radio signal is then received by the bluetooth headphones.
  • The bluetooth controller on the headphones decompresses the audio back into an uncompressed format. If AptX is used, the quality should more or less mirror the original, however if not, there will be loss of sound quality.
  • The uncompressed audio is fed through a DAC at this step.
  • Once again, you can get cheap crappy DAC's or high end expensive DAC's. I can't imagine generic headphone manufacturers using high end DAC's so unless you have some high-end headphones, there will be another loss of quality in sound.
  • The signal that emerges from the DAC is analogue audio.
  • This is then fed through an amplifier circuit within the headphones.
  • Cheap headphones will have poor isolation of amplifier circuitry so it may add "noise" to the analogue audio.
  • The analogue audio is then fed to the speaker drivers so you can hear audio.
Lightning connectors will work in exactly the same way apart from the bluetooth digital radio transmission.

So if you worked it out, you will realise there are more points of audio degradation using Bluetooth or a lightning lead.

It'll also increase costs for headphone manufacturers but since consumers want the same prices as before, they'll sacrifice in quality because generally, "the consumer doesn't really care about quality".

On top of that, Apple will gain huge revenues through the licensing of the proprietary lightning connector and of course headphone manufacturers will pay through the roof to have "Made for iPhone" added to their boxes.

Finally, all the lemmings who blindly follow everything Apple say, will go out and buy a new set of headphones for their phone. Apple makes a big short term gain on revenue.

Ultimately it's a mugs game. In the past, Apple stood for quality.

Now it's just a generic product designed to generate billions in revenue for consumer lemmings.
 
Really enjoying all the extremist remarks about the missing headphone jack. So what. You now have a 3.5mm to lightning adapter. All your headphones still work. What's the problem? You don't like better sound? Oh, you need an adapter now. The one that probably comes IN the box.

The plus is well, a flagship phone. Get over it. There is choice across the board and Apple has done a great job with give us that. However, there are people bitching still. Get over it.

Go get that Android/Winmo phone you've always wanted. I enjoy watching iOS users cry out how they're going to switch to one of the worst OS in the industry. Bye.

Just thought I'd highlight another one not realising how audio works....
 
The only way I can see those bottom stereo speakers being useful is if they do it iPad Pro-style and also include 2 speakers on top for awesome sound quality, especially in landscape. Unfortunately, this will never happen.
 
Four years? The design that we have now is from 2014 for the iPhone 6.

Two tears. That's the same hardware design cycle (for major changes) the iPhone has followed since 2007.
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Quite the contrary, in order for their manufacturing plants and supply chain to be ready for launch in September, the hardware design has to be final long before March.
Really? I recall reading stories 1-2 months ago about how they were still testing various models for the upcoming March SE launch-
 
Apple LOVE people like you.

You cannot increase the quality of sound through the design of the jack. I know it's been explained before but I'll try myself:
  • Audio on an iPhone starts compressed digital audio.
  • The audio is then "decompressed", and you get a series of 1's and 0's in raw digital format.
  • This data is then fed into a chip known as a DAC (Digital Analogue Converter).
  • You can get cheap crappy DAC's or high end expensive DAC's. Apple generally uses higher quality DAC's, although it has been noted the 6S has a poorer quality DAC to the 6. However, having said that, unless your headphones are ultra sensitive, it probably won't bother you.
  • The signal that emerges from the DAC is analogue audio.
  • This is then fed through an amplifier circuit in the phone, through the 3.5mm jack, to your headphones so you can hear the audio.
Where I've highlighted the text, is where the quality is established.

It has sweet nothing to do with the jack.

Now lets repeat the same journey with a Bluetooth headphone.
  • Audio on an iPhone starts compressed digital audio.
  • The audio is then "decompressed", and you get a series of 1's and 0's in raw digital format.
  • Digital audio is then passed onto the Bluetooth controller on the phone.
  • Luckily, Apple supports AptX which offers a much higher quality codec stream, so audio is re-compressed into this format and transmitted over digital radio signals.
  • Not all headphones support AptX, so if this happens, the re-compressed audio will lose quality at this step.
  • The digital radio signal is then received by the bluetooth headphones.
  • The bluetooth controller on the headphones decompresses the audio back into an uncompressed format. If AptX is used, the quality should more or less mirror the original, however if not, there will be loss of sound quality.
  • The uncompressed audio is fed through a DAC at this step.
  • Once again, you can get cheap crappy DAC's or high end expensive DAC's. I can't imagine generic headphone manufacturers using high end DAC's so unless you have some high-end headphones, there will be another loss of quality in sound.
  • The signal that emerges from the DAC is analogue audio.
  • This is then fed through an amplifier circuit within the headphones.
  • Cheap headphones will have poor isolation of amplifier circuitry so it may add "noise" to the analogue audio.
  • The analogue audio is then fed to the speaker drivers so you can hear audio.
Lightning connectors will work in exactly the same way apart from the bluetooth digital radio transmission.

So if you worked it out, you will realise there are more points of audio degradation using Bluetooth or a lightning lead.

It'll also increase costs for headphone manufacturers but since consumers want the same prices as before, they'll sacrifice in quality because generally, "the consumer doesn't really care about quality".

On top of that, Apple will gain huge revenues through the licensing of the proprietary lightning connector and of course headphone manufacturers will pay through the roof to have "Made for iPhone" added to their boxes.

Finally, all the lemmings who blindly follow everything Apple say, will go out and buy a new set of headphones for their phone. Apple makes a big short term gain on revenue.

Ultimately it's a mugs game. In the past, Apple stood for quality.

Now it's just a generic product designed to generate billions in revenue for consumer lemmings.

All of this may be true but we don't know what Apple are going to do yet, has the design of the 7 even been signed off yet. Don't get me wrong I won't blindly follow everything that Apple will do, if indeed the headphone jack is removed without a good reason I won't be too pleased because I have not long ago purchased a pair of headphones (and not cheap £169 set of Beats).
But going from what Apple have done in the past, they have always had a reason for removing things, it usually relates to their future roadmap. We will have to wait and see what is announced in September.
 
Who knew Sony was still in the phone business? Well, if you haven't been living on mars with your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears... but yeah, they make some of the best Android phones on the market... not to mention, they're responsible for that camera in your iPhone... but hey, let's try and smear Sony regardless just because it's not an Apple product.

Second, the specs on the Sony phones are actually a lot better than iPhones, lol. But hey, if you wanna live in a bubble and disregard/disrespect other manufacturers, that's your problem.
My 20 year old Sony MDR V6 phones are still one of the best sounding phones I have, and you can still buy them after all these years.
 
I don't understand why you would bring up old technology and previous standards when discussing Apple's cutting edge tech products. If Apple removes the headphone jack, they will be offering the latest wireless codecs alongside of it. Of course Bluetooth has had a troublesome past, as does all technology, but my current BT headphones are pretty fantastic, and they're not even the best I could buy.

As for Lightning, just like the conversion from 30-pin to Lightning, you'll eventually be able to use it natively on all future Apple products. For the rest there are adapters. I'd argue that most people use their headphones with one primary device like their phone anyway. And you won't have to buy a Lightning headphone, because Apple will give you one free with your phone. You may not even have to buy a 3.5mm adapter to use them with older Apple and other legacy products (but probably). Perhaps the only inexpensive adapter you will have to buy will be to use older wired headphones with newer Apple products.

And just like the ubiquitous 30-pin and now Lightning connectors, eventually you'll be able to find adapters almost everywhere as well. In the meantime, don't upgrade to the latest iPhone until there's a better support system in place to protect you while you travel.
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And when the competition removes their 3.5mm Jack? What will you do then?

Do you honestly think Apple would remove a universally used port, if the competition weren't also in a similar position of needing to remove their Jack as well?

What is latest and greatest in yet another proprietary port that improves nothing and only allows Apple to cash in more in licenses fees and adapters?

How can it become better than fine analog noise free output to your analog in any case drivers in the headphone?

And then you can not even charge your phone while listening?

Just to make the phone even slimmer when it is already too slim to hold comfortable and decrease battery capacity even further? After an optimal thickness things can also become too slim to be perfectly usable.

So little benefits, so much loosing. Wow, amazing progress.
 
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First of all yet more adapters, right?
Secondly when I rush out, go by car, train, plain, holiday yet more adapters not to forget, right?
Meh. Personally, an adapter is such a small thing for me to get pissed about that it wouldn't out weigh all the pros I believe having an iPhone provides. To get rid of the entire phone because I might have to use an adapter just seems like...overkill.

Kinda reminds me of all the stories I hear from my girlfriend who works at Verizon. Some customer will call in about a $1 charge on their bill. I said that right. A $1 charge! And it was like taxes or something going up. Do they say "oh yeah I understand. Guess I'll just deal with it because of all the great service Verizon provides and it's only $1 anyway"? Hell no! People yell and scream at her, get petty and name call and even threaten to call lawyers and file lawsuits. Over $1!

So in the grand scheme of things I could be pissed about, having to use an adapter for a pair of headphones for a phone that is otherwise perfect for me...yeah. I wouldn't give a damn. Picking my battles kinda thing. It wouldn't affect me anyway as I just bought a great pair of Bluetooth headphones that blow everything else I've ever used out of the water (parrot zik's)
 
I think there's an element of the blind leading the blind here. The case developers see the rumours and start designing cases based on those rumours, rumour sites pick this up and then validate their online rumours on information that started from them in the first place.

I don't think Apple would have released schematics to the case manufacturers this early. I mean, seriously there's no need for them to.

Until I see some part leaks that can confirm this, I will remain sceptical.
 
Meh. Personally, an adapter is such a small thing for me to get pissed about that it wouldn't out weigh all the pros I believe having an iPhone provides. To get rid of the entire phone because I might have to use an adapter just seems like...overkill.

Kinda reminds me of all the stories I hear from my girlfriend who works at Verizon. Some customer will call in about a $1 charge on their bill. I said that right. A $1 charge! And it was like taxes or something going up. Do they say "oh yeah I understand. Guess I'll just deal with it because of all the great service Verizon provides and it's only $1 anyway"? Hell no! People yell and scream at her, get petty and name call and even threaten to call lawyers and file lawsuits. Over $1!

So in the grand scheme of things I could be pissed about, having to use an adapter for a pair of headphones for a phone that is otherwise perfect for me...yeah. I wouldn't give a damn. Picking my battles kinda thing. It wouldn't affect me anyway as I just bought a great pair of Bluetooth headphones that blow everything else I've ever used out of the water (parrot zik's)

I already had to have an adapter for the very first iPhone because the headphone jack was a bit recessed in the phone's body.

Since then penty of adapters, old fashioned 30pin, thunderbolt to ethernet, even lighting to everything including HDMI, etc.

How high should the mountain of adapters become? And when you are abroad, in a train, holiday, meeting one garuanteed does not have just that adapter around.

And you know, you are on holiday, on a sunny island, or some mountain, wherever, your adapters disappears and you have no high tech store around to get a new one?

Brave new world. To cut another mm from the phone, ... :-/
 
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There have been plenty of incorrectly designed cases in the past. Just because some Chinese knock-off shop makes a case now everything is fact huh.

Still 6 months before the 7 is announced and a couple months before it's finalized and goes into production. Anything at this point is simply a guess and far from fact.
These Chinese cases have always provided the early insight into what the final production iPhone will look like. Are you new here? (Kidding.)
 
I already had to have an adapter for the very first iPhone because the headphone jack was a bit recessed in the phone's body.

Since then penty of adapters, old fashioned 30pin, thunderbolt to ethernet, even lighting to everything including HDMI, etc.

How high should the mountain of adapters become? And when you are abroad, in a train, holiday, meeting one garuanteed does not have just that adapter around.

And you know, you are on holiday, on a sunny island, or some mountain, wherever, your adapters disappears and you have no high tech store around to get a new one?

Brave new world. To cut another mm from the phone, ... :-/

Firstly, there are thinner phones than even iPhone that still have a headphone jack. So if Apple DID remove it, it's not about thinness.

Secondly, you make up all kinds of scenarios where I can't help but scratch my head thinking "he can remember to bring a phone. And a charger cord. But an adapter is beyond them? Uhhh"

So I mean...whatever I guess right? If you want to leave iPhone because of this issue, be my guest. I would suggest just getting a pair of Bluetooth headphones, but I'm sure you would freak out at the very suggestion with more hyperbole about "now I have to buy another pair of headphones?! Great great. Oh Jesus that's stupid"

So...
 
So basically no charging my iPhone 7 while listening to music with my headphones at the same time? Or, no tethering my iPhone 7 to the auxiliary jack for music in my vehicle when charging the phone at the same time to best use GPS on long road trips? Glad everything around me is bluetooth enabled… wait, it's not??? Shucks, guess I'll just have to just buy a new car and headphones.
 
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The media is going to go nuts if the design stays largely the same!

Four years is too long for the same design.

Yeah, they should totally make a different shape like triangular or round.

Really, outside, of subtle design improvements it is unlikely you will see radical changes to the design until technology overcomes some obstacles.
 
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