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Thank you for explaining to me what other people would (or would not) expect. I’m most grateful.
We are on page 5 of this thread and not one person has said “oh, great! Now i can use these under water!” But I’ll play along.

Hey, everyone, don’t swallow your airtags. They probably won’t work.

Also, don‘t put your airtags in a faraday cage. Unless you are inside the faraday cage with the airtags, they won’t work.

Also, even though these things say they are rugged, smashing your airtags with a sledge hammer is a bad idea. Don’t do that.

Do not taunt the airtags. The airtags may get angry.

Airtags should not be used as frisbees for hamsters. Their aerodynamic properties are insufficient.

Airtags do not stick to air. It’s just their name.
 
Each member of the family has different looking key chains.

And there’s a requirement with these that you can’t do the same thing? Either buy 4 different holders, or differentiate them in some way? (Paint them, tie a ribbon on them, stick a colored label on them, whatever?)
 
Awesome! But say goodbye to being able to hear the speaker lol.
That may be an advantage for pet tracking. I wouldn't want scary noises going off next to her head. Especially if it tries to start alerting her any time I leave with my phone.
 
And there’s a requirement with these that you can’t do the same thing? Either buy 4 different holders, or differentiate them in some way? (Paint them, tie a ribbon on them, stick a colored label on them, whatever?)
That's what I will be doing. I am merely saying that ElevationLab's solution only comes in black, without a window to show engraving that would differentiate each. The least they should do is offer them different color. Asking customers to paint or add a ribbon is not going to work.
 
I understand you're speaking for yourself. I'm just saying you have a REALLY low threshold for "nightmare" if this is it.

And the oil-change/tire rotation comparison makes perfect sense. My point is if THAT isn't a nightmare to me (and many others who DO change their own oil because they don't trust dealerships to do it right) - something far more time consuming and "harder" - then surely removing and replacing 4x12 screws once a year shouldn't be viewed as a nightmare. It just struck me as funny to hear someone say that. Should take a couple seconds to remove and replace each screw, especially if you use a cordless screwdriver.

No. You're completely misunderstanding how nightmare is used in this scenario.

The amount of effort needed for maintenance far outweighs any sort of functionality that this product provides. That would be a nightmare.

Building a PC from scratch isn't a nightmare, despite it requiring many more tools, requiring more screws, and for being "far more time consuming and harder". Because the function of a PC is extraordinary compared to a case for a bluetooth tracker, and therefore the effort is warranted.

See the difference?

BTW, oil change service is a $7-8 billion industry in USA. There are about 280 million cars in USA. Assume an oil change costs $20, and americans change twice a year, that'll be about 70% of cars use an oil change service. To say that the majority changes their oil by themselves would be inaccurate.


I'm not sure what a "screw gun" is, but a cordless screwdriver is all that's needed and tons of people have those.

I didn't bring up "screw gun". macsound1 did. i'm simply using his phrasing. why don't you ask him what that is?
 
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yeah because i only bought 1 AirTag, right?

16 screws? 20? 8? your cushy lifestyle also entitles you to the belief that anyone has any clue how many you purchased, or care?

given that the current quantities to buy them in are 1 vs 4....i honestly dont give any cares about how many you have. this is not a big deal.

at all.

not whatsoever.
 
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No. You're completely misunderstanding how nightmare is used in this scenario.

The amount of effort needed for maintenance far outweighs any sort of functionality that this product provides. That would be a nightmare.

Building a PC from scratch isn't a nightmare, despite it requiring many more tools, requiring more screws, and for being "far more time consuming and harder". Because the function of a PC is extraordinary compared to a case for a bluetooth tracker, and therefore the effort is warranted.

See the difference?

BTW, oil change service is a $7-8 billion industry in USA. There are about 280 million cars in USA. Assume an oil change costs $20, that'll be about 1.4 oil changes per car per year (of course you would change it more often than that, just putting it in perspective). To say that the majority changes their oil by themselves would be inaccurate.




I didn't bring up "screw gun". macsound1 did. i'm simply using his phrasing. why don't you ask him what that is?

Once a year. ONCE A YEAR. It's not a nightmare, no matter how you slice it. Honestly, that's one of the silliest things I've read in a LONG time. You could knock it out in less than 10 minutes. If you had to change the 12 batteries monthly, ok, then I could maybe see your point. I never said the "majority" of people change their own oil, I said "many others" do. I also never said you brought up screw gun, I was simply mentioning that I didn't know what it was, but that all that was required was a cordless screwdriver. You obviously knew what it was, since you stated that most people didn't have one. I obviously wasn't asking you to define it for me. I think you knew this, but chose to be snippy instead.

This is getting beyond silly. We're done talking.
 
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Once a year. ONCE A YEAR.

For scratch protection on a $29 device. You're scratch proofing A $29 DEVICE.

It's not a nightmare. You could knock it out in less than 10 minutes.

You're still failing to understand the concept.

Ever heard of plastic clamshell packaging for a lightbulb or a pair of scissors? I can point you to a million websites of users calling that a NIGHTMARE to open despite it taking only 2 minutes. Hell, there's a famous Curb Your Enthusiasm bit about it.

Amount of time it takes alone is irrelevant.

I never said the "majority" of people change their own oil, I said "many others" do.

Your response to my point about "most people don't change oil themselves" was that because it wasn't a nightmare to you and to many others, you concluded it is not a nightmare.

But gee, if "most people" do think something is a nightmare, your anecdotal experience and experience of "many others" have no say on what is or is not a nightmare as it doesn't represent the majority.

You're not making any sense here.


I also never said you brought up screw gun

Did I accuse you of making that statement? No. You're being quite defensive here.

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I'm glad you reacted. That tells me you read it at least. Cool I think we're done.
 
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16 screws? 20? 8? your cushy lifestyle also entitles you to the belief that anyone has any clue how many you purchased, or care?

given that the current quantities to buy them in are 1 vs 4....i honestly dont give any cares about how many you have. this is not a big deal.

at all.

not whatsoever.

cushy lifestyle? i'm not going to go through the trouble of unscrewing/rescrewing just for the sake of PROTECTING A $29 DEVICE. want to talk about who cares? who cares if your AirTags gets scratched.

imagine if you had to screw on a protective case for your mouse. talk about cushy lifestyle, who cares if things get scratched.

what a nightmare.
 
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I like it too. Useful when hanging an AirTag off a daypack when out hiking.
I'm curious... Why put an airtag on the outside of a bag when it would be less conspicuous and easier to place it inside? In terms of safety I'd imagine inside would be better as it doesn't give away it's being tracked, outside might be better for sound though.

Also what is the scenario for using an airtag for a bag when hiking? Wouldn't the bag always be with you? I'm wondering what is the use case in this situation. Serious questions. I'm trying to figure out how these are useful in various situations.
 
But without a hole for the Apple logo, how will people know I bought an Apple product??
More importantly, if people who find it don’t know it’s an AirTag, will they know to hold it by their phone with NFC to know your contact info?
 
This could be a useful way to attach an AirTag to my dog's collar.

 
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