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Great point - Apple on the other hand makes devices that are easy for consumers to fix on their own!
I wasn’t saying Apple is without fault, but for Musk, throwing rocks from his solar powered glass house is probably not a great idea. He’s also an idiot to suggest that Epic was right, since Epic simply wants to charge developers and consumers the same markup, without paying Apple for access to their customer base, or use of their systems.

And if Musk is going to go after Apple for taking a markup on the sale of apps through their App Store, then he should be also going after Walmart, Target, Amazon, Walgreens, CVS, HEB, Costco…effectively every company selling products, who marks up a product’s wholesale cost.

It’s a grand idea to think that every company who makes a product or offers a service, could sell their thing by themselves, with no middleman adding onto the cost (like Tesla is doing today). But imagine a world where you couldn’t go to a grocery store to buy a loaf of bread, gallon of milk, lettuce, etc., because grocery stores wouldn’t exist if they couldn’t mark up the product to pay for the store itself, the inventory, employees, marketing, etc. And you couldn’t go online to order the product from Amazon, because they wouldn’t exist since they too have to cover their costs to manage inventory, handle shipping, warehousing, etc. So you would then need to go to a bakery’s website to order your bread, find a dairy to order your milk, a farmer to get your lettuce. Sounds like a totally unrealistic way to do things.
 
...since Epic simply wants to charge developers and consumers the same markup, without paying Apple for access to their customer base, or use of their systems.

Epic wants to be able to sell direct to their own customers.
(You know - like Amazon does on iOS? -- and many others)

I doubt they expect they'd be able to run through the Apple store without any costs at all. What they are doing is posturing a certain way to try to enact change.

It gets hard to understand when people are making legal arguments, as that shapes things in a way that isn't always what people honestly know or expect things might turn out like.

They have to make arguments a certain way to try to get a result they like and new direction pushed for.
 
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand crypto. Doge pump and dump? What did he dump exactly? Dogecoin is up 2000 percent since January. Do your research.

Hey when is Tim Cook going to stop suing small mom and pop shops who repair your IPhone? Or working with companies like Foxconn who literally have suicide nets outside their facilities?
Bla Bla Bla, you forgot the part where he pumped it up 10,000 percent at $0.73 before finally tanking.... Btw, I don't care about Tim Cook. I just need these billionaires to shut it.
 
No it’s not. It’s a fixed price for a well defined feature.

Instead, imagine if your car manufacturer wanted 30% of the money you spend on fuel and tolls.

Actually let’s imagine if Tesla ran its software like the App Store.

Every time you engage cruise control, or use automatic parking then there’s a microtransaction payment.

Or if you use them a lot you can subscribe for a monthly fee.

And then there’d be constant adverts on your dashboard for Tesla One which combines the Parking and Cruise control subscriptions into one convenient monthly fee and will also allow other members of your family to enjoy the same features.
 
I think some folks here are maybe too young to remember the breakup of the Bell System

I guess we have to redo some of this stuff each generation
not really a good companion, back then there was no "choice" ...
and the same still holds true with a lot of the cable providers, I usually am dependent on a single one, and the "choice" was provided by satellite companies ...
Not that you have a ton of choices for say a smartphone, but you do, just that the market has developed into Android and iOS ... but there are others, just not many people want them ...
 
Actually let’s imagine if Tesla ran its software like the App Store.

Every time you engage cruise control, or use automatic parking then there’s a microtransaction payment.

Or if you use them a lot you can subscribe for a monthly fee.

And then there’d be constant adverts on your dashboard for Tesla One which combines the Parking and Cruise control subscriptions into one convenient monthly fee and will also allow other members of your family to enjoy the same features.
At least he'd have a polished product and a decent supply chain ;).
 
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It's interesting to me that others feel they have a handle on how much it costs to run an App Store. Consider the backend: data center, computers, power, cooling, maintenance, code reviews, etc.

There's a cost associated with the App Store and then of course there's some revenue that should be associated with it too. Is Apple just supposed to eat the cost? Give me a fricking break.

What I hear is "Man, Apple makes a ton of money... I wish I had some of that... and since I don't, I'm going to bitch about it in the press and litigate it in the courts..."

The amount of money they make from the App Store is not anywhere in the same galaxy as "eating the cost" which is why people complain about the extortionate 30%.
 
Elon Musk is a hypocrite for talking about taxes when he underreports and never pays his fair share of taxes on his billion$$$$.


Please google "de facto"

I'm all for Billionaires paying a TON more than they do on taxes...but that's totally not what we're talking about here, nor is what Elon was saying.
 
Elon Musk is a master at hypocrisy, opening his mouth to prove how a “genius” can be so stupid. The con artist who has been selling “Full Self Driving” for years without actually providing it has no business weighing in on what Apple does with the ecosystem they invented themselves.
 
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