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I have zero understanding of corporate law.

Back when Elon agreed to buy Twitter, then realized it wasn’t worth $44B, then wanted out, only to learn he was already contractually obligated to purchase… Real question here… Did his end game change to that of bankrupting the company as fast as possible and get out from under this? Is that a thing that happens?
Who knows what Musk was thinking or what the actual agreement he signed as it's confidential.
What we do know was that he signed the purchase agreement without doing any due diligence of reviewing any documents and that he could've backed out of the deal by paying a $1B termination fee, which could've saved him $43B. But his Ego wouldn't let him so he just bought company and we all are seeing what he's doing with it currently, not a pretty sight.
The worse thing is his arrogance in his tweets bullying and misleading people, considering his slash and burn approach in the first weeks of his arrival and how many users deactivated their accounts and advertisers left.

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The agreement was up for public viewing since it's filed with the SEC.
 
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Of course it does. In the exact same way as a company has the right to remove anyone that doesn’t align with their own moral code. They have been banning any kind of hate speech since… Apple. Why should they allow themselves to be a Speakers Corner for the world?

That’s a stupid analogy. These companies are ones contracted by Apple. Yet apple have actually done these analysis to find child labour etc. They are the ones that are stopping/reducing child labour in their contractors company.

They have also banned several companies from their supply chain for that reason.

Wow- what a double standard we have here

1. Apple didn’t do any of those analysis- it was actually brought to the government by none profit.




So allow me to ask since 2012- how many cases needs to happen for Tim to take action?

Looks like nothing really has changed since 2012

Care to look into labor protest? From 2013 to just now.

Has anything changed?

Yes you are so up and arm against Elon but refuse to put Tim Cook under same microscope.

Seems like bias to me.

Suyin was only banned after 3 years. Hooray.

As of today Zhengzhou still employ thousands of 16 years old student under so called internship who works up to 11 hours per shift.

Yes that is progress. It okay to turn a blind eye because it doesn’t go against your political view.

People are actually physically being abused here. And it’s of no consequence to you.

Pathetic.
 
Who knows what Musk was thinking or what the actual agreement he signed as it's confidential.
What we do know was that he signed the purchase agreement without doing any due diligence of reviewing any documents and that he could've backed out of the deal by paying a $1B termination fee, which could've saved him $43B. But his Ego wouldn't let him so he just bought company and we all are seeing what he's doing with it currently, not a pretty sight.

Nice story telling, but all untrue.

We know what the terms of purchase are - they were filed with the SEC because its a purchase offer for a publix US-listed company.

He could not have backed out for a mere $1b, because it required proving material adverse effects, or other conditions.

When he started buying twitter equity, the overall peer market (as represented by nasdaq 100 index) was at its peak. When his purchase was made public, the market had slid double-digit percentage. It continued to slide into summer.

The valuation of Twitter, if pegged to NDX, had eroded significantly more than $1b. If the contract and math was that simple, that would have been the route to go.
 
That’s another discussion. Someone asked if the preference is an internet with or without hate. I prefer an internet in which hate is possible, and I recognize the right of any platform to decide if they allow it or no. If hateful speech (however one defines it, I am sure that if you ask Iranians they will say different things than Israeli) is fully banned then a bigger problem will arise.
Unless government bans it, hate will always be possible on the internet. I don’t see many arguing for that so that would seem to be a moot point.
 
Who knows what Musk was thinking or what the actual agreement he signed as it's confidential.
What we do know was that he signed the purchase agreement without doing any due diligence of reviewing any documents and that he could've backed out of the deal by paying a $1B termination fee, which could've saved him $43B. But his Ego wouldn't let him so he just bought company and we all are seeing what he's doing with it currently, not a pretty sight.
The worse thing is his arrogance in his tweets bullying and misleading people, considering his slash and burn approach in the first weeks of his arrival and how many users deactivated their accounts and advertisers left.
The $1 billion termination fee was in case the US government for example decided to stop the purchase. It wasn’t a fee Musk could pay to terminate the transaction just because he got cold feet.
 
Unless government bans it, hate will always be possible on the internet. I don’t see many arguing for that so that would seem to be a moot point.
I answered a specific question about personal preference. Nothing more.

However, one can also discuss and have opinion on how other companies and individuals act, regardless of government action. The idea that something shouldn’t be discussed (or that such discussion is moot) simply because there is or there isn’t government action is ludicrous. If someone burns a book, which isn’t illegal, I will say that whoever does it is an imbecile and that they shouldn’t do it.
 
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You know, you’re right. This is actually about Musk thinking he can just whine and moan Apple into doing that.
Wrong again. The “speech” is a cover, (for gullible people taking things at face value)

The real ire is economics. 30% of subscription fee is a chunk of change. Going off the app store entirely means even loss of install base and even bigger potential chunk of change.

Its a 1-sided public spat, motivated by money.
 
Wow- what a double standard we have here

1. Apple didn’t do any of those analysis- it was actually brought to the government by none profit.




So allow me to ask since 2012- how many cases needs to happen for Tim to take action?

Looks like nothing really has changed since 2012

Care to look into labor protest? From 2013 to just now.

Has anything changed?

Yes you are so up and arm against Elon but refuse to put Tim Cook under same microscope.

Seems like bias to me.

Suyin was only banned after 3 years. Hooray.

As of today Zhengzhou still employ thousands of 16 years old student under so called internship who works up to 11 hours per shift.

Yes that is progress. It okay to turn a blind eye because it doesn’t go against your political view.

People are actually physically being abused here. And it’s of no consequence to you.

Pathetic.

I think the original point that was being made was more about Musk's state of mind at the moment and whether it's indicative of poor mental health, but I'm glad you managed to change it into a line of attack and a change of topic all in the space of two posts, that efficiency is admirable and it's certainly accomplished its job of making the person you disagree with go on the defense which has successfully made him look weak and made you look virtuous.

It is all rather off-topic, though, so perhaps you'd like to respond to the user's other point which you previously ignored in favor of this distraction?

Of course it does. In the exact same way as a company has the right to remove anyone that doesn’t align with their own moral code. They have been banning any kind of hate speech since… Apple. Why should they allow themselves to be a Speakers Corner for the world?
It's an interesting point, so I look forward to your response @Krispykrme!
 
I hope he develops a phone, too. I can see it now:

- He buys a company that makes phones, to make his phone.
- He fires the one team that knew how to make the phones.
- He asks for code screenshots from his software engineers while asking them to be hardcore and stuff, which results in half of them quitting.
- He blames the media, woke culture and people who are not hard-core enough for his failure.
- Despite all this, his company manages to produce a phone, weirdly.
- He advertises it as “the free speech phone”. His app store doesn’t “censor” developers and there is no moderation or app review.
- In turn, this means the phone can easily be hacked and there is a ton of spyware for the phone. Not only because there is almost no app review, but also because he fired most of the software engineers who worked on privacy and security.
- Musk fans who bought the phone have their private data stolen, often with serious consequences.
- Almost no major app is on the platform, because they don’t want to participate in this trainwreck. Also, there are openly fascist apps there, and no respectable company wants to be seen in that crowd.
- The phone also sucks, but that’s the least of it’s problems.
- Apple ends up selling more iPhones in one hour than Musk phone sells in three months.
- After these three months, EU bans sales of Musk’s phone on their territory, USA and UK have multiple investigations ongoing.
- The whole thing collapses spectacularly in just four months and Musk claims “it was all just for lulz anyway”.

So, yeah, I’d love to see all that. I hope he makes a phone.
I read a few lines of your post then got bored so yeah whatever you say…lol
 
It would be great if tweeter would get kicked out of the app store qnd play store then it would be a 44 billion fiasco haha
This just goes to show that so much of the reaction to Elon taking over Twitter is based in political malice, and on nothing else. So many people hoping a platform fails because they don’t like the CEO…I just find it baffling.

As many others have pointed out..none of these folks were bothered that terrorist organizations were allowed to be on Twitter. But when American political personalities they disliked were allowed back on…that was a step too far!

These folks want to protect against disinformation? How about the people who were banned that said the evidence showed the COVID vaccine DIDN'T prevent infection? Well, that is true. Those that said there were no legitimate adverse reactions to the vaccine? Well, the authorities, and the Pharma companies, are now admitting that yes it’s real.

The problem is that “disinformation” these days means “things my opponents say and I choose not to believe”. THATS the problem with so many of these folks saying they just don’t want to allow “disinformation”. These people completely lack self-awareness. THAT is what’s dangerous. And THATS why they don’t want to loosen speech restrictions on Twitter.
 
I answered a specific question about personal preference. Nothing more.

However, one can also discuss and have opinion on how other companies and individuals act, regardless of government action. The idea that something shouldn’t be discussed (or that such discussion is moot) simply because there is or there isn’t government action is ludicrous. If someone burns a book, which isn’t illegal, I will say that whoever does it is an imbecile and that they shouldn’t do it.
Sure and I’m free to point out that your worry about the possible future existence of a hate-free internet is being worried about something that won’t come to pass anyway.
 
Why are people who worship a party that is emulating the Nazi’s so obsessed with China? Especially when they are an authoritarian nation just like all the others Republicans support?

There’s a boogie man hiding in every shadow according to the right, so obsessed with conspiracies and pushing their agenda down our throats that they fail to realize what they’ve become.
Haha. Elon is a great man. Such a good character, intelligent, articulate, and stands up for what’s right.
 
Wrong again. The “speech” is a cover, (for gullible people taking things at face value)

The real ire is economics. 30% of subscription fee is a chunk of change. Going off the app store entirely means even loss of install base and even bigger potential chunk of change.

Its a 1-sided public spat, motivated by money.
Oh right, it’s just ultra-dimensional chess. 🙄
 
Let’s be real. The left doesn’t like any speech that disagrees with their viewpoint and they want to shut it down.
Yeah, no, not accurate at all. All I see is Florida telling you that you can't say "gay" and Disney can't have rainbows, and libraries have to have the local fundamentalist Evangelical Mullahs approve any books they want to have, they fire public officials who tell the truth about pandemics, the list goes on and on and on. Florida is not in any way "Left."

And tlhen there's the rest of the country. There are some on the extreme left who would tend to be that way too, but in the main, no, you are not correct.
 
This just goes to show that so much of the reaction to Elon taking over Twitter is based in political malice, and on nothing else. So many people hoping a platform fails because they don’t like the CEO…I just find it baffling.

That’s about how 90% of folks operate these days: ideology first, ideas last.

Apple does not *have* to do anything. They should do what they want.

But Apple likes money. People downloading Twitter and paying for subs in the app makes them money.

But explicitly “allowing” an app that is widely painted with an unpopular association is reputational risk, which loses some potential money (in a wooly indeterminate way).

Going after Apple is not easy, or smart. Epic Games tried it and didn’t go so well.
 
So Apple is against free speech that they don't like. I don't care much for Elon but if he is opening Twitter to all despite their views, he has my support.
Freedom of speech is the hallmark of this country. Not allowing it is going against it. It's shameful people want to cancel folks they dislike.
Yeah what’s with all these people against free speech??

 
Both sides have gotten more polarized. But while the left becoming more polarized has been for universal healthcare, better wages, and for trans people to be allowed to exist, the right becoming more polarized has meant pretending there’s not an issue with how many police departments treat African Americans, pretending that trans people can’t exist, and pretending that CRT in K-12 education is happening. This polarization is not in equal magnitude nor quality. How is it possible that the former POTUS and Republican frontrunner in 2024 just dined with a known anti-Semite?

You're welcome to interpreting the sides of politics how you want to, but how is it right that one side gets censored by the other?

I could list out the counter arguments to your statements about how the right is worse than the left, but I don't think it's really about which side is better/worse. It's about one side wanting control over what everyone can think and say. Even if it's for a good cause, it's wrong.

Ultimately, the way you think the right is dangerous, there are a whole bunch of people who think the left is just as dangerous. It's a game with no winners.
 
This just goes to show that so much of the reaction to Elon taking over Twitter is based in political malice, and on nothing else. So many people hoping a platform fails because they don’t like the CEO…I just find it baffling.
A lot of people hated him before he said a word about his politics. He’s a billionaire, people hate him because of that. It’s fun to see billionaires fail. Pretty simple stuff.
 
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