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Rubbish.

And Apple, owning the rights to iOS is entitled to moderate its software in the same way as Macrumors moderate this site.
Noncontroversial speech doesn’t need protection.

Apple was also in its rights to disable Airdrop in China to appease the CCP. It doesn’t mean they should have done it.
 
I have the impression that it is you who does not know what the far right is, or rather, precisely because you are of the extreme right you try to convince others that you are a good person of common sense.

Typical of 🙃.

This sure doesn’t sound like a far right person to me.

Musk has given money to John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton; stepped down from Fwd.us after it ran ads supporting Republicans who backed Keystone XL; supported Hillary Clinton over Trump saying Trump doesn’t have the character that reflects well on the US; he left Trump’s advisory council after Trump withdrew from the Paris Agreement; voted for Biden.
 
The implication that Musk himself isn’t being a crybaby and isn’t part of the billionaire elites is hilarious. He’s literally the worlds richest man and yet here you are simping for him. 😂
Riiiight. You don’t think the knives are out for EM? Most of the people dumping on him are doing so as it is “fashionable” because someone told them it was. But why? What actual policy changes have been enacted at Twitter that will result in the “hellscape” that self proclaimed “internet experts” falsely prognosticated? In the end, I encourage everyone to think for themselves. Not sure how that deserves to be accused of simping…

p.s. there is a difference between crybully and crybaby.
 
What does that have to do with whether or not it's morally right for an elite group of people to censor one side of politics and not the other?

We all have a responsibility to society, and I don't think creating one political class that can speak and one that cannot is a morally defensible goal.

Societies don't go in the right direction once you start doing this.
Someone not letting you use their resources is not censorship. Or are you admitting to censoring me? Use or acquire your own resources.

Or if you think resources have been hoarded with the elites leaving none for you, then let’s start redistributing that wealth down to the rest of the populace.
 
FRIENDLY REMINDER: Free speech only means the government cannot jail you. It is not a 100% consequence-free move.

EDIT: smack that disagree all you want, you damn well know I’m right.
I love this, it embodies everything that drove Musk to buy Twitter, literally saying people have the right to different opinions but it still isn't acceptable to you and you don't care what others think and still want Apple etc to "cancel" it
 
Let’s be real. The left doesn’t like any speech that disagrees with their viewpoint and they want to shut it down.
I usually refrain from saying anything to dumb comments like this but ill bite, what's the speech like on twitter right now?

Im a OG twitter user and in the last month, its been a HOT MESS when it comes to content moderation, sorry NO moderation. The use of not only the N word but other speech that shouldnt be use has sky rocketed. If you believe this speech should be allowed, you are foolish.

He's basically making twitter into 4chan and thats fine, thats why a website and a web app can exist :)
 
Someone not letting you use their resources is not censorship. Or are you admitting to censoring me? Use or acquire your own resources.

Or if you think resources have been hoarded with the elites leaving none for you, then let’s start redistributing that wealth down to the rest of the populace.

You're starting to lose me here. I don't know what you're talking about.

Is this the only way you can justify social media platforms or companies like Apple censoring one side of politics and not the other?
 
Riiiight. You don’t think the knives are out for EM? Most of the people dumping on him are doing so as it is “fashionable” because someone told them it was. But why? What actual policy changes have been enacted at Twitter that will result in the “hellscape” that self proclaimed “internet experts” falsely prognosticated? In the end, I encourage everyone to think for themselves. Not sure how that deserves to be accused of simping…

p.s. there is a difference between crybully and crybaby.
Or maybe they’re dumping on him for telling folks to vote for a political party claiming the 2020 election was stolen from them. He literally alienated half the country with that one tweet. But sure, the disdain is just because it’s “fashionable.”
 
If Apple and Google did that it would be a massive mistake. They would have no real reason to do it except that they disagree with Musk's decisions. You can't start a practice of banning apps just because you don't like the creator. I'm not a fan of Musk but would very much disagree with Apple and Google if they did that.

Apple can ban or refuse to publish an app to their App Store for any reason they wish. As long as they don’t violate any federal anti-discrimination laws. And a personal dislike for someone’s personality is not considered discrimination as only they can represent themselves. Only if Apple were to say that they refuse to allow anyone who votes republican or has a disability or the like could you bring a meaningful claim to them for discrimination.

Frankly in the same respect if Elon wishes to flush more money down the toilet by bringing Apple and/or Google to court he’s more than welcome. I expect a run for political office to be in his future once the coffers start to dry up. LOL
 
Apple has not acted yet. But yeah, tired of them bending the knee to the CCP while frantically virtue signaling when safe and convenient.
LOL, if we all made purchase decisions based on product origin most people wouldn't be able to get to work.
 
Wow- what a double standard we have here

1. Apple didn’t do any of those analysis- it was actually brought to the government by none profit.

Care to look into labor protest? From 2013 to just now.
Wow, the first search came up with this. Internal Audit by Apple.


Yes you are so up and arm against Elon but refuse to put Tim Cook under same microscope.

Seems like bias to me.
When have I been up in arms against Elon? Where?

I think your own bias means you are ignoring all of the facts and picking the ones that suit your own biased agenda against Apple.

People are actually physically being abused here. And it’s of no consequence to you.

Pathetic.

Based on what? Why would you even say such a thing when you have no idea who I even am?

If you're going to troll me, at least get your facts straight.
 
You're starting to lose me here. I don't know what you're talking about.

Is this the only way you can justify social media platforms or companies like Apple censoring one side of politics and not the other?
I justify it the same way as with anyone else. They can do whatever they want with regard to speech on their platforms (i.e. resources) in the same way that you’re allowed to control the use of your resources in making speech. If nobody else gets rights to your resources, you don’t get a right to anybody else’s either. There’s literally nothing difficult to understand about that. Same rules apply to you, me, Musk, Cook, Burger King, Hobby Lobby, and a bum on the street. You’re entitled only to what you own and what somebody else may decide to allow you do with what they own. If that is nothing, then tough.
 
Or maybe they’re dumping on him for telling folks to vote for a political party claiming the 2020 election was stolen from them. He literally alienated half the country with that one tweet. But sure, the disdain is just because it’s “fashionable.”

How is it alienating half a country by supporting one of the major parties for one election? So many celebrities and major players are very openly Democrat and left wing, isn't that just as "alienating"?
 
Apple has not acted yet. But yeah, tired of them bending the knee to the CCP while frantically virtue signaling when safe and convenient.
Is it ok that Elon Musk "bent the knee" to the CCP to build a gigafactory in Shanghai? Tesla gigafactory #3 is the largest factory in the world by production volume.
 
I justify it the same way as with anyone else. They can do whatever they want with regard to speech on their platforms (i.e. resources) in the same way that you’re allowed to control the use of your resources in making speech. If nobody else gets rights to your resources, you don’t get a right to anybody else’s either. There’s literally nothing difficult to understand about that. Same rules apply to you, me, Musk, Cook, Burger King, Hobby Lobby, and a bum on the street. You’re entitled only to what you own and what somebody else may decide to allow you do with what they own. If that is nothing, then tough.

You're not making any coherent argument about whether it's morally right. You're just outlining why they can.
 
Is it ok that Elon Musk "bent the knee" to the CCP to build a gigafactory in Shanghai? Tesla gigafactory #3 is the largest factory in the world by production volume.

This is one thing that most people seem to be blind to. Elon and Apple both have it wrong with China in much the same way.

I don't think Elon deserves any of the hate he's getting, but he would be in absolutely no position of moral virtue over Apple when it comes to China.

In fact his opinions about Taiwan are very off-putting.
 
Oh please spare us the bull **** that only 1 side does it.

Mate both sides do it. Don't be blind. Neither side is immune from this criticism. Anyone who would be in power would subtly rather overtly would take some measures like this.
 
What does that have to do with whether or not it's morally right for an elite group of people to censor one side of politics and not the other?

We all have a responsibility to society, and I don't think creating one political class that can speak and one that cannot is a morally defensible goal.

Societies don't go in the right direction once you start doing this.

I'm asking why it's right, and saying they shouldn't do it. I'm not asking someone to make them do anything.
It's about moderation (in the moderate meaning, not to moderate). We have Fox and Murdoch continually and unabatedly having a political agenda. Murdoch Press continue to refuse a moderate debate and censure anything that goes against their political ideas.

If you have a Pro Liberal vs Pro Conservative debate, the conservative debate will ONLY be the one that is survived in that particular media. No one ever questions or is outraged by that.

So why can't that be countered with a view from another political standpoint? Why should Apple be restricted when Murdoch isn't?
 
How is it alienating half a country by supporting one of the major parties for one election? So many celebrities and major players are very openly Democrat and left wing, isn't that just as "alienating"?
How is it not alienating?? He told people to vote against another group’s political and moral values. That would also be alienating in the other direction as well, no argument there. And speaking of which, have you not seen the **** slung at Hollywood liberals by those on the right? Frankly, if anyone enters the ring, right or left, they should be prepared to get hit. Here’s a tweet from someone boycotting Robert De Niro’s movies. Hang on, give me a minute to get all worked up about it…


Grrrr, so angry!!! 😡😡😠😡😠

There we go, am I doing it right?
 
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