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I didn't say they were required. But you are taking a very simplistic view of it. Apple and Google are far from being benevolent companies that do no wrong. Yes they want to give that perception, but they consistently do business with companies that have constantly committed human rights violations. And to that point, they didn't mind that groups like the Taliban, who are some of the worst people in the world, are on the platform.

Apple and Google would essentially be saying "There is more hate speech on Twitter so we are banning it." Are they going to start vetting people and prohibiting racists and scum bags from buying their iPhones? Of course they wouldn't do that because it would affect their bottom line. I say all of this as a huge Apple fan, but there is some major hypocrisy going on here.

100% agree with you. And lets not forget that Apple makes its iphones in countries with a lot of human rights issue as well. Or their prolific attempts to prevent unionization of their store employees.
 
I didn't say they were required. But you are taking a very simplistic view of it. Apple and Google are far from being benevolent companies that do no wrong. Yes they want to give that perception, but they consistently do business with companies that have constantly committed human rights violations. And to that point, they didn't mind that groups like the Taliban, who are some of the worst people in the world, are on the platform.

Apple and Google would essentially be saying "There is more hate speech on Twitter so we are banning it." Are they going to start vetting people and prohibiting racists and scum bags from buying their iPhones? Of course they wouldn't do that because it would affect their bottom line. I say all of this as a huge Apple fan, but there is some major hypocrisy going on here.
It is a simplistic thing; if companies and people, for that matter, don't like something, they are not going to support it.
 
I was initially hopeful for positive changes in Twitter, but so far Musk has only done harm.

I always thought Elon would turn into a Howard Hughes type as he got older. It seems to be happening much faster.
 
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You seem to forget the golden rule freedom of speech doesn't mean being free of consequences. Also, only the government is not allowed to restrict your speech, private individuals and companies can restrict speech all they want when you're on their property.

Finally someone gets it.
 
Its weird how US citizens expect foreign companies to obey US laws, but then believe US companies are not obligated to follow the laws in the countries they do business in.

The USA is only 4% of the worlds population, you do not get to dictate to the other 96%.
The USA is not the most democratic country, not the most free, etc etc etc
And NO, we don't all want to be US citizens.
I don‘t understand your post. I certainly don't expect companies to ignore the laws of foreign countries they do business in.

The issue here is Apple using its money to control speech and thought in the United States, the country it is based in.
 
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It is a simplistic thing; if companies and people, for that matter, don't like something, they are not going to support it.

I get that they don't have to support it. So pull your ads for it and delete your account. But they are saying "since we don't support it, we aren't going to let anyone use it." Seems a little off to me.
 
Is this 'headline' true:

"How Tim Cook agreed to hand over the data of all Chinese Apple users to the Communist government and allow it's servers to be run by state officials in return for being able to do business with Beijing"

Maybe this has something to do with it all.
 
It is concerning how many people are cheering on the idea of Apple banishing Twitter from the App Store.

Unless you can point to specific reasons that should be done compared to prior to Elon's ownership and not just "Elon is a bad man", you're ok with apps being disallowed just based on who owns them.

"Agree with us 100% of the time or you're silenced". Is that really what you think is right?

it really is what they think is right. It's so sad.
 
Spending money on Ads via Twitter is just a waste of money. I don't anyone out there is wiling to help Elon Musk to recover the $44 Billion Dollars. No one in this world will pay this much of a price now.

I sometimes wonder how you come up with this stuff. How is advertising a waste of money exactly?
 
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I’m so glad I don’t use or depend on Twitter. It seems like a complete mess.
And that is exactly what the mainstream media wants you to believe. Twitter was supposed to be a smoldering heap of ashes right now, but they’re still up and running.

The COVID-19 debacle of the last 2-3 years should have made crystal clear to all that mainstream media (MSM) is 90%+ propaganda and partial truths. The perceived trustworthiness of news platforms (of any political slant) is at an all-time low and an increasing number of people intuitively understand that the words, images, and videos they are presented are not for communicating information but rather to elicit an emotional response. There is a constant psychological experiment running on the citizens of the United States (and the world at large) which seeks to create division and turmoil, enabling political players to further cement their positions of authority simply because the general populace is distracted.

Your “*******” neighbor and “MAGA republican” uncle are not your enemies, nor were they ever. You are being tricked into viewing your fellow citizens as inhuman, uneducated, ignorant, or even immoral. Now more than ever is the time that you need to “be the bigger person”, reintroduce yourself with a handshake and smile, and realize that we are all navigating this strange situation together.

Twitter was a key player in censorship and “fact checking” over the past 3 years. And, whether you want to admit it or not, and whether you agreed with their policies or hated them, Twitter was doing this almost unilaterally in favor of one particular opinion. That same moderation and messaging was also widely shared amongst MSM companies which further increased the influence and power of all parties involved.
Now that Twitter is being operated by someone who doesn’t share the same beliefs, Twitter immediately puts itself at odds with all the MSM players who piggybacked on its services to broadcast their propaganda.


Musk preemptively calling out Apple is an interesting move - it signals that Apple is contemplating doing to Twitter what it did to Parler. Unfortunately for Apple, Twitter is exceptionally larger than Parler and has years of established presence on the internet (and AppStore). Any attempt to restrict access to the Twitter app will result in a lawsuit (with Twitter having far-deeper pockets than Parler), and the bigger risk is that it spirals out of control into an antitrust or commerce suit. My take: if Apple tries to die on this hill (block Twitter), they will have their closed ecosystem ripped from their hands.
 
Elon Musk is closer to being a centrist than anything else, I still am trying to contain the laughter from people calling him far right in this thread. And me being downvoted into oblivion for questioning how he is far right.
The man literally urged people to vote Republican. He’s “centrist” in the sense that Republicans insist they are “centrist” and Democrats are just “far left”. IE right-wing political propaganda.
 
The problem is that it does, BUT it does NOT mean you don't have to suffer repercussions of doing so. Thats the issue. People think they can saw whatever they want and NOT have it come back to bite them in the ass. Thats not how it works.
No, we all know what "freedom of speech" means. Look at all the laws we have that penalize lying and misinformation and hate. "Free speech" is a human construct; society made it.
 
Apple should watch its step. Regulators around the world are looking for every excuse possible to break apart the app store walled garden. ... I supported Apple previously on this issue but now, f-- them! Break it apart.
What's changed as far as this issue? App Store rules have always required moderation of user-generated content.
 
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