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It would be game over for these companies as their success has come directly from Apple developments. If they win. Everyone else looses. Apple has no incentive to push development on a platform that they don’t profit from the 30% does not include and costs incurred to support, be the customer service agent, develop tools etc. It is also below their average profit margin before factoring in those costs.
It is those developments that have allowed these companies to thrive and grow their business exponentially.

It’s stupid beyond all recognition to bite this hand as they pay far more to be on console platforms and make no profit on Android. Apple has the resources to just build what they see as valuable and stop development on the App Store if it will cease to be profitable or will waste to much time fighting idiots.

Everybody loses? Hows the Koolaid?
 
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So if I buy a really expensive car, I should be entitled to free or cheaper services – or cheaper gas / charging – just because I paid more than a Toyota costs?
I’m not sure how you got that analogy out of what I wrote.
 
AT&T, Verizon and T-mobile should start asking Apple for 30% of their revenue, you would be OK with that right? I mean, they build it and Apple is leeching of them.

They didn’t build iPhone. Apple built it. AT&T came crawling first, then Verizon, then others.
This is what actually happened. Not the delusion you just dropped. If Spotify built their platform that Apple happily crawling to then they wouldn’t charge Spotify, would they?
 
I utterly despise Tile for the constant nagging they do about features I don't need to use the product without their subscription
”I utterly despise Tile, but I’m not going to let that prevent me from jumping on anything Anti-Apple”.
I didn’t know anti-fanboy was a thing!
they are the one's bribing game developers to get their games locked into Epic's distribution platform.
Which makes me wonder if any of these coalition members are getting a ”financial incentive” :) I’m sure they’re not because it would eventually come out, but still, makes you wonder.
 
Spotify and Epic Games think they're big players, but trust me, if they'd disappear overnight, they would make very little dent in the universe. Spotify is on the brink of collapse and Epic is ... well, just a gaming company. In the grand scheme of things they don't matter. Sure, a few hardcore gamers would cry and punch walls, but the rest would just go and buy some other game to chase their boredom away, because apparently the whole point to life is to sit and play effin' games.
 
I can see some valid criticism. For example, the fact that the Tile app has to be running in the background all the time, to be able to track location. I'll bet that won't be the case with AirTags.
That is a design choice. The new OS just makes sure you know it. They could have it only search while the app is active, but that would mean location data would not be available to sell.
 
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The amount of blind fanboyism in this thread is just hurting, as if this was a sports match with people cheering for their team. Regardless of ones stance on this topic, Apple is no ones friend here. The only people Apple cares about is their main stakeholders (plus all the minors ones, but only because they have to). Some people behave as if Apple would repay their blind loyalty in any way, despite this being never the case.

No kidding. I use Apple products every day (writing this from an iMac) but they're defintely not the underdogs they were in 1997. How altruistic can a trillion dollar corporation be?
 
And yet none of them have pulled their apps....I wonder why. I mean if you want to take a stand, take a stand. Otherwise this is just a stunt.

All things considered (no matter which side your on), I think this is a better approach, from the coalition perspective, than Epic’s original “change the app and force them to take us down for breaking the rules we agreed with” approach.
 
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Good for them. I can't understand why so many people are against this. More money is good for developers, and competition is good for consumers.
Apple ARE developers :)
God forbid Apple take a leadership position here and make changes that would get regulators off their backs.
If Apple were to lower their fees, that could be seen as “predatory pricing”. Anyway, I really don’t see any changes Apple makes ending up with ANYthing other than Apple hardware becoming more and more the “default” dominant platform.

Lower prices well under Android? more developers move over.
Allow the same customization as Android? more move over
Allow various app stores, like Android? more move over.
Heck, allow other hardware companies to make iPhone clones?

A lot of folks want Apple’s hardware to become the basis for everything. I’d prefer it didn’t.
 
No, their biggest issue is Apple being the payments gatekeeper on the App Store.
Except, they can sign people up and take payments on their own websites, just like Spotify does already. that is why I am not seeing their problem. Imagine if you search amazon for a new sweater, find it, then wonder why company x doesn't advertise it on their own web site instead of paying amazon? Of course, you can click the link and go to the web site and see if you can get the sweater cheaper directly or not. hmmmm - just like the App Store. Coalition for amazon Fairness!
 
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That does not hold, as the 30% is only charged when payments happen.
30% is a revenue share that covers use of Apple’s IP, various expenses plus profit.

No revenue, no share. But if there is IAP revenue, share they must. That’s what the developer agreement states. Devs don’t have to develop for iOS if they don’t want to 🤷‍♂️

Epic paid for 8+ years until they decided to get greedy and zero out Apple’s cut. Good luck with that, Epic.
 
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And tile is just mad because it’s likely a better product is about to compete with them.
Apple just turned Tile’s whole business model into a service that runs efficiently in the background. As it doesn’t take a LOT of money to create those little trackers, Tile are likely to see competition as soon as next year from entrepreneurs seeing this as an opporunity.
 
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