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Epic Games, Spotify, and Tile Form 'Coalition for App Fairness' to 'Fight Back' Against Apple

Eric 🍕🌞🎉 said:
No kidding. I use Apple products every day (writing this from an iMac) but they're defintely not the underdogs they were in 1997. How altruistic can a trillion dollar corporation be?
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Can we please also include Google in these discussion. do you know they charge 30%?
 
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Interesting to me is some of the companies that have joined..... they probably wouldn't have been had Apple not been complete douchebags to them. Like Basecamp or Prepear.

I don't see what the harm is of putting pressure on Apple. Regardless of what your interested outcome is, Apple should start treating their developers better.
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
Apple just turned Tile’s whole business model into a service that runs efficiently in the background. As it doesn’t take a LOT of money to create those little trackers, Tile are likely to see competition as soon as next year from entrepreneurs seeing this as an opporunity.
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Tile should just make a great app that tracks all trackers that everyone wants to use instead of someone else's, say Apple< and then what would be the problem? Go tile go!
 
eulslix said:
The amount of blind fanboyism in this thread is just hurting, as if this was a sports match with people cheering for their team. Regardless of ones stance on this topic, Apple is no ones friend here. The only people Apple cares about is their main stakeholders (plus all the minors ones, but only because they have to). Some people behave as if Apple would repay their blind loyalty in any way, despite this being never the case.

Besides that, there is two sides to every coin. And despite those same principles applying to the companies part of that coalition (namely, they only care about themselves), they do raise some valid point. Todays ecosystems, regardless of which form or nature, opened door to a lot of anticompetitive practices. As a customer, in a free market, you should care about yourself primarily, just like those companies do. Making eco systems less restrictive is customer friendly. That does not contradict an App Store which is selective about the software quality, there is ways to still achieve this in a more open eco system.
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Yah I know, right? Google charging 30% is awesome! Amazon charging a high fee, who cares. total fanboys when they say let the market decide. Oh and you do know that the average fanboy is smart enough to realize that Spotify and others can bypass any fees on the App Store just by processing payments on their web sites directly, There is even a link in the App Store to the developer's web site, just like on amazon. I guess if buying something from Amazon doesn't initiate complete outrage, people must be Amazon Fanbois? yah, good one
 
CylonGlitch said:
Companies that will NEVER see another penny from my pocket.
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I just deleted my ProtonMail account. Have had it for many years, but the only emails I had in there (about 12) came from them. Don’t know why I still kept them.
 
MauiPa said:
Tile should just make a great app that tracks all trackers that everyone wants to use instead of someone else's, say Apple< and then what would be the problem? Go tile go!
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Actually... that’s interesting AND it COULD work, if you know, Tile wasn’t Tile. Since you have to provide access to the location data securely, Tile could have lined themselves up as the 1Password for tracking devices. Even provide an API for third parties to sign up for. However, I’m assuming that’s harder than just complaining and trying to keep the market closed to competition. And, if Tile has proven ANYTHING over the past years, it’s how much effort they DON’T want to put into their product :) They could have even pivoted into being the one place to go to figure out how to implement your tracking strategy.

I remember once looking at a HD that had a Tile tracker in it thinking they were going to start licensing to everybody... then nothing. Now, those companies, with just a small amount of added hardware, will be able to add their own tracking via Apple’s service.
 
So basically, 15% of the app store developers are paying for the other 85% of developers to be able to host their apps for free. Not exactly a fair system which is one of the issues Epic and Spotify have been complaining about.
 
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"The group includes Epic Games, Spotify, Tile, Basecamp, Blix, Blockchain, Deezer, the European Publishers Council, Match, News Media Europe, Prepear, ProtonMail, and SkyDemon, many of whom have had major disagreements with Apple over various issues."

Also known as the Whiners. These companies need a dose of reality injected into their tech bubbles.. Be thankful you're in a part of an industry that has not suffered very much through the pandemic. Be grateful you even have jobs.

Many people don't.
 
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So in other words, "The league of extraordinarily ungrateful b@stards".
 
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neuropsychguy said:
Or, imagine some entity, let's call it a "government", takes 30% of your paycheck to provide infrastructure, security, services, etc. Who would ever accept such a situation? ;)
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Indeed (in some countries it is even more than that), but your boss gave you that job, he should have his well-deserved cut on your salary too because without him it would be zero. If more Apple fervent defenders had cool bosses taking that 30% cut, maybe they would see thing differently.
 
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Being against this sort of unionization is akin to bootlicking to me. You all realize that Apple pools together resources to control the market? It's all a power game and Apple is playing as aggressively as anyone. Why shouldn't other companies form together to also play the power game? What is it when Apple buys up companies? Or the walled garden approach? What about when companies merge? Or when VCs invest into a startup? It's all about power.

These big companies rely on those that provide services to be small, desperate, disparate, and competitive. It's ok for Jeff Bezos to play the power game, but when workers want to play the same sort of power game, bootlickers come out of the woodwork to shame them. We'll do anything to keep our corporate overlords happy, it's shocking.
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
Can I first imagine that I’m making a million a year? Because, you know, I think I can live off of $700,000. :)
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But once you have paid taxes on it, expenses and more, it will be more like $350000 depending on country. Still not bad, but make that cool 1 million something like 3000$ or 4000$ and it is less interesting.
 
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