where is your proof that this happened? I stopped playing Fortnite and I am an IOS user, I did not switch over to another system.
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Epic Games v. Apple Trial Wraps Up, But We Likely Won't Know the Outcome for Months
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HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME LEARN THINGS!!!You should read about the history of Epic Games.
Epic Games - Wikipedia
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They are not going anywhere.
Don’t think that this is part of the mix of one of the possible outcomes.
Apps on the iOS App Store charge what the dev wants in line with price demand.
Right, but if there are virtually no findings against Apple that might be taken into account.
I completely agree. So many interesting apps are unavailable on iOS because of App Store rules. We have this freedom on Mac OS and I don’t see people clamoring that they are drowning in malware. Just be careful what you install or just stick with the Apple App Store.
Of course all they discuss now is just about the game since they've switched Fortnite platform to PC, console, Android, etc. like 9 months ago when Apple locked them out. Do a search back around that period. For example...
iOS was the lowest platform that Epic made money from, it was discussed in the first day or first couple days of the trial.
YouTube Premium is more if you pay through Apple in app purchase. I willingly did this. I do not care a few dollars more for the convenience that my subscription can be canceled and maintained in one place.
IMHO, this case is far more than the doggered legal gambits of a game maker, er oops, "experience creator" vs a company that actually R&D's and produces high-end computing and telecommunications devices and OS's, etc. (the artwork accompanying this article pretty much says it all), at stake are numerous (unspoken and untried in this case) ramifications against hardening and securing our Nation's telecommunications and data infrastructure. Methinks those concerns will weigh heavy with this Judge, Congress and Business interests as the national (global) conversation and legalscape surrounding said move forward. Secure marketplaces protected against malware and faux currencies and untaxed transactions will always remain priority.
So, "gallery prediction", at the end-of-the-day, a court ruling dissuading any potential court-clogging peddlers of shiftless-basement-dwelling-progeny enableware from future filings and that they should find themselves in need of more creative revenue-enhancing, um, solutions rather than trying to, er (pun-intended), gamer the legal system.
It's an old story...big-ego business-sorts don't know how to work-well-with-others and throw temper tantrums to try and get their way. Never fun to watch. Popcorn?
So, "gallery prediction", at the end-of-the-day, a court ruling dissuading any potential court-clogging peddlers of shiftless-basement-dwelling-progeny enableware from future filings and that they should find themselves in need of more creative revenue-enhancing, um, solutions rather than trying to, er (pun-intended), gamer the legal system.
It's an old story...big-ego business-sorts don't know how to work-well-with-others and throw temper tantrums to try and get their way. Never fun to watch. Popcorn?
It was mostly due to COVID. If COVID never happened and small businesses were not majorly impacted, I bet you we wouldn't have seen the 15%.
Jif Peanut Butter - $2.49
Kroger Peanut Butter - $1.00
So Kroger is taking advantage of their situation (THEIR store) and can sell their OWN peanut butter for less.
I don't think its fair for Spotify to say Apple charging less is wrong. It is just ridiculous for a competitor to complain that the other competitor about how much they charge for their product.
If she did that, wouldn't that also allow any store to be told the same thing? I mean, if your in the google play store, and you want to make an IAP. You could have a link to leave the app to go pay elsewhere. Seems like such a ruling would be pretty across the board. Xbox, SONY, Nintendo, etc all would have to be on the same boat here. Target, Walmart and all stores would have to equally comply. "looking at this item? Go to Amazon.Com for a cheaper price!". This would be crazy. Then when you went to Amazon.com you would have another link pointing you to target or Walmart, LOL. You would never buy anything.
Lowest, but not negligible. If it were negligible, then they likely wouldn't have bothered to sue.
She can only issue orders with respect to the parties in front of her - i.e. Apple. So it wouldn’t apply to anyone else.
I really like how this trial is ending. She seemed to hit all of the high notes.
What does a decision that hogties Apple mean. Courts are going to be 'running' corporations?
What does it mean if Epic wins, and the future for their suckers, I mean customers. A rapacious corporate monster loosed on the parents of pouting and screaming children holding their breath because M&D won't give their financial information to a salivating monster waiting to use ALL THE MONEY.
Apple has kind of made a mess of their fee structure. I read some of the fine print trying to decide if I should pay for their Developer Program. They have free plans, low price plans, and full price plans for the fees they require from developers that place their products in the App Store. It all makes sense, but from a legal point of view, if you treat entities differently, you invite the idea that you are 'playing favorites'. And such levels in 'providers' can be gamed too. I remember we got into local, state, and federal IT bidding. ALL of the 'big guys' had setup shell companies to bid as 'small businesses' in federal RFP's. And even local, we found ourselves bidding against HP for a school IT project.
And Epic has tipped their hand multiple times. They want ALL THE MONEY! ALL OF IT! They are in it 'for the Benjamins' and such things as 'contracts' and 'agreements' aren't going to stand in their way. Yeah, the judge seems to not be a fan of their behavior, and no one should. They know that once the kids are hooked, they will do everything to drag their parents into the battle, and extort more money from them. I saw a few roadside adverts in Orlando, and at the Universal parks. I was shocked. Does Universal have a dog in the fight? And who Epic has on their side is a whos who of greedy jerks IMO. Whatever happened to not being an ass, and taking things up without flouncing, and torturing kids to make a point.
But, stay tuned... I'm sure this will be another case that will be appealed, and dissected for decades to come.
What does a decision that hogties Apple mean. Courts are going to be 'running' corporations?
What does it mean if Epic wins, and the future for their suckers, I mean customers. A rapacious corporate monster loosed on the parents of pouting and screaming children holding their breath because M&D won't give their financial information to a salivating monster waiting to use ALL THE MONEY.
Apple has kind of made a mess of their fee structure. I read some of the fine print trying to decide if I should pay for their Developer Program. They have free plans, low price plans, and full price plans for the fees they require from developers that place their products in the App Store. It all makes sense, but from a legal point of view, if you treat entities differently, you invite the idea that you are 'playing favorites'. And such levels in 'providers' can be gamed too. I remember we got into local, state, and federal IT bidding. ALL of the 'big guys' had setup shell companies to bid as 'small businesses' in federal RFP's. And even local, we found ourselves bidding against HP for a school IT project.
And Epic has tipped their hand multiple times. They want ALL THE MONEY! ALL OF IT! They are in it 'for the Benjamins' and such things as 'contracts' and 'agreements' aren't going to stand in their way. Yeah, the judge seems to not be a fan of their behavior, and no one should. They know that once the kids are hooked, they will do everything to drag their parents into the battle, and extort more money from them. I saw a few roadside adverts in Orlando, and at the Universal parks. I was shocked. Does Universal have a dog in the fight? And who Epic has on their side is a whos who of greedy jerks IMO. Whatever happened to not being an ass, and taking things up without flouncing, and torturing kids to make a point.
But, stay tuned... I'm sure this will be another case that will be appealed, and dissected for decades to come.
Of course Epic want most of it because they're doing all the work to develop the game, host the app and game servers, the payment system and maintaining everything. All Apple provides is a bookmark on the app store. Same reason browsers don't take a 30% cut of every users' online purchase because they do bookmarks.
Oops, might've given Apple an idea on how to monetize Safari and reason to remove other browsers from app store.
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Of course Epic wants all the money... every cent of it. They want access to Apples closed ios ecosystem, the ability to bypass the app store and payment system, and access to Apples' 1 billion customers all for free. Apple should just hand them the keys.
However, they can have all of that today, right now, this minute in fact. Just not on IOS. But nobody is preventing Epic from getting customer $$$ on any other platform.
There was evidence presented in the trial, based on Epic’s records on surveys, that many people did.
But wouldn’t any such ruling set a precedent that could be applied against other companies in the same business with the same rules? I see Epic’s lawyers immediately afterwards filing the same case against other App Stores, using this outcome as a precedent.
It likely wouldn’t set much of a precedent, for several reasons. First, it‘s a district court and not a court of appeals, so at best it might be persuasive to other courts. Second, any ruling would be very fact-specific, based on the details of the alleged market for apps on iOS devices. Dealing with these other app stores would require a completely new analysis from the ground up.
But then customers will vote with their wallet and Spotify would’ve had far fewer paid subscribers that it has now, slowly driving Spotify out of business.
This is the just beginning of the end of walled garden app stores. The writing is on the wall. CNBC already predicted Apple will most likely win this time but not in the long run.