I'd look at all of the big three of now, regardless of market share, while we're possibly going to be updating our laws to reflect the modern digital economy.What about now? What marketshare is deemed "too high"
I'd look at all of the big three of now, regardless of market share, while we're possibly going to be updating our laws to reflect the modern digital economy.What about now? What marketshare is deemed "too high"
You said you want ALL SMARTPHONES as the customer.Are you confused? Are you under the impression that we've said devs should be forced to release their software on every conceivable platform?
-- You said this in response to being required to develop for iOS.If you want to reach all smartphone users you are.
Indeed it's not required for mobile development. However, the scenario shouldn't exist where one half of a duopoly can tell you that you have to agree to their arbitrary terms before you even get the choice of developing for their OS.That is not a requirement for mobile development. It is a restriction/rule you are putting on YOURSELF. Example I have mentioned before - Affinity Photo. It is NOT available for ALL smartphone users.
No it shouldn't. But opening up iOS is not the answer. Getting a third company to compete with Apple and Google is the answer.Indeed it's not required for mobile development. However, the scenario shouldn't exist where one half of a duopoly can tell you that you have to agree to their arbitrary terms before you even get the choice of developing for their OS.
There's nothing wrong with opening iOS, but a third competitor in the space would also be great. I'd happily take both.No it shouldn't. But opening up iOS is not the answer. Getting a third company to compete with Apple and Google is the answer.
And if I was a regulator, I wouldn't let that transaction go through. They already bought up Bethesda.You know what would actually prevent anti-competitive behavior? Not allowing companies to buy each other. I kind of consider what Microsoft is doing by purchasing Activision Blizzard as anti-competitive. But they keep letting major companies buy "smaller" ones. It would stop this at the source of the problem.
There are many things wrong with it but that is opinions and we all have different ones.There's nothing wrong with opening iOS, but a third competitor in the space would also be great. I'd happily take both.
If you want to reach all smartphone consumers, you have to develop for iOS. If you don't care to reach all smartphone consumers, you don't have to develop for iOS (or Android). I genuinely don't get what's confusing about those two verifiably factual statements.You said you want ALL SMARTPHONES as the customer.
-- You said this in response to being required to develop for iOS.
Yes, but few companies allow work laptops/desktops to be used for personal usage. Even if working from home its not like something you can use casually as it would be locked down if they care. You more likely to have a encrypted work computer then a personal one.Literally all three of those aren't strictly true
In fact, in many cases, a users or businesses Mac has MORE valuable user information on it
No argument.Guys-- Apple just wants to hoard the revenue monopoly on the iOS App Store.
That's all this is -- and they've got you arguing for them!!
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But that is a rule or condition you yourself are putting on yourself. Punishing Apple because you want to "reach all smartphone customers" when it is your choice, not Apple forcing you to use the App Store.If you want to reach all smartphone consumers, you have to develop for iOS. If you don't care to reach all smartphone consumers, you don't have to develop for iOS (or Android). I genuinely don't get what's confusing about those two verifiably factual statements.
No it shouldn't. But opening up iOS is not the answer. Getting a third company to compete with Apple and Google is the answer.
Apple's been slowly opening iOS for years now. Have you also been against that?There are many things wrong with it but that is opinions and we all have different ones.
Work systems are usually filled with business information on it NOT user information. I cannot install TurboTax and do my taxes on my work system, or log in to my bank website and do my banking. Or sync my texts.Literally all three of those aren't strictly true
In fact, in many cases, a users or businesses Mac has MORE valuable user information on it
I am fully against side-loading. I have not seen Apple open up iOS with side-loading in mind. Otherwise, we would not have these threads and lawsuits if Apple does intend to allow side-loading on iOS. So that is what I refer to as "opening" iOS.Apple's been slowly opening iOS for years now. Have you also been against that?
There are definitely better and worse executions of openness, and trying too much at once might be too much for Apple to do properly (let's be honest, they're already struggling to keep up with annual updates), but openness in and of itself is not bad.
I am fully against side-loading. I have not seen Apple open up iOS with side-loading in mind.
Unfortunately, Apple doesn't seem to agree with this stance. Otherwise they'd be making changes themselves now rather than waiting on governments to do it for them.No it shouldn't. But opening up iOS is not the answer. Getting a third company to compete with Apple and Google is the answer.
And it should be a dev's right to make that decision for themselves without having to agree to arbitrary terms from a duopoly power. You've even agreed with that in the first quote above.But that is a rule or condition you yourself are putting on yourself. Punishing Apple because you want to "reach all smartphone customers" when it is your choice, not Apple forcing you to use the App Store.
To be honest though, that looks far more fun.
The solution to duopoly power is to introduce more parties. Breaking up the App Store still leaves the duopoly power around. And I can certainly see this going to a $300 Apple developer fee and $500 XCode license to make up for the 30%. And you (developer) having to deal with individual line items for CDN, support, transaction and other items.And it should be a dev's right to make that decision for themselves without having to agree to arbitrary terms from a duopoly power. You've even agreed with that in the first quote above.
Sideloading in general, or purely sideloading on iOS? Because it's not some crazy, dangerous thing, it's just a fancy word for installing. Mac's handle it fine. Hell, I can sign up to a beta and sideload apps on my iPhone right now (I currently have two installed). Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to be against it, I just don't get the reasoning behind the decision.I am fully against side-loading. I have not seen Apple open up iOS with side-loading in mind. Otherwise, we would not have these threads and lawsuits if Apple does intend to allow side-loading on iOS. So that is what I refer to as "opening" iOS.
But thos is the same as to be in app store, all the process goes trough apple. Only difference is those apps dont have icons in the app store, only direct link. Lets say, the raw link without eyecandies (screenshots etc)Are you ok with it for specific groups and organizations?
That’s already allowed now.
Even got expanded today
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App Store Now Supports Unlisted Apps Discoverable Only With a Direct Link
Apple recently announced that the App Store now supports unlisted apps discoverable only with a direct link, as outlined on its developer website. Developers with apps that aren't suited for public distribution can submit a request on Apple's website to distribute unlisted apps, which don't...forums.macrumors.com
The ones crying about it here feel their choice is being taken away if Apple is forced, we know that’s a false narrative, since clearly more options benefit users.The pressure is getting higher and higher each month from all directions so change finally has to happen if Apple likes it or not.
I don't understand why many people are opposed to the idea of adding more options. Options are not mandatory if you do not want to use it. For the users that want to use Apple payment systems, nothing will change. They still can because this is and will remain an App Store requirement, whatever the outcome of the rulings may be.
So there is no reasonable argument to fight for not having options and diversity if you wont be using those options anyway.