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Which store in the EU allows advertisement of another store in their store? Do you see advertisement in Aldi saying that the same chicken is cheaper in the Lidl?

If you go to a Gucci store, do you see advertisements from a Chinese store inside the Gucci store that you can get that exact same bag from Gucci from them for almost nothing?

Did you read their post? They're saying that you cannot tell your customers the truth about Apple's policies within your own product, not in the App Store.
 
Did you read their post? They're saying that you cannot tell your customers the truth about Apple's policies within your own product, not in the App Store.

Do you see advertisements from Lidl inside Aldi telling customers what the commission fee of Aldi is?

Nothing what Apple does is out of the ordinary if you look at what other stores are doing.
 
Yeah, this is some real 1984 ****.

I almost have to admire the gall on the part of Apple

The level of control over third parties they are trying to exert and defend is fairly breathtaking

Just shows how corrupting money can be
 
The courts will look at the fine and decide if it is lawful. Just because the EU quangos think it should be paid doesn’t mean a court looking at facts not emotion, letter of the law not spirit of the law, will agree.

The EU lawyers couldn't even draft a watertight law, they won’t be competent enough to go up against the best of the best at Apple.

In Cook We Trust
Well, hasn’t the so-called spirit been prevailing for some time now? You think Apple has prevailed over all of these years because they were in line with the letter of the law? Then why aren’t they protected now? Or is the EU going with emotions?
 
Do you see advertisements from Lidl inside Aldi telling customers what the commission fee of Aldi is?

Nothing what Apple does is out of the ordinary if you look at what other stores are doing.

Let me repeat myself for the peeps in back;

Apple does not let you talk about Apple's fees inside of your own product. Nowhere do I say anything about saying this in the Store.
 
Really tired of all this bogus whining. People make a choice to buy or develop for an iPhone, then complain it only does Apple stuff the way Apple intends. If you don't want it to do only Apple stuff the Apple way, buy or develop for an Android phone or any other platform.

The majority of people who use Apple products aren't screaming for protection from Apple. If you are, you're incredibly stupid and/or self-centered, because nobody is forcing Apple products on you.

The EU Commission is infested by Spitify and Epic goons with an obvious agenda, and the consumers they claim to protect are the ones who will suffer.
 
Sure, it’s 2024, but to make a backup without using an Apple service, I need to: 1) physically connect my device to my computer with a USB cable; 2) remember to do this every day. Very convenient.

Are you serious defending them?

You don't need a cable.

Just check the sync over wifi option, and have the iDevice connected to the same network as your PC/Mac. It should backup automatically.

I even have a screenshot for you to show you how:
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Here is my iPhone 14 Pro doing a wifi backup... No cables attached.
 
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Really tired of all this bogus whining. People make a choice to buy or develop for an iPhone, then complain it only does Apple stuff the way Apple intends. If you don't want it to do only Apple stuff the Apple way, buy or develop for an Android phone or any other platform.

I'll refer you to my Post# 177 on this same thread where I explain that my business has to cater to market demands, a fact that Apple exploits.
 
Really tired of all this bogus whining. People make a choice to buy or develop for an iPhone, then complain it only does Apple stuff the way Apple intends

You're completely missing what the EU is saying and trying to accomplish

It's also not productive to reduce concerns and complaints down to "bogus whining"
 
Fun fact. Even Apple execs thought at some point, that the cut is too big and that it should be lowered. There is evidence from the Epic trial on public record.

They have reduced the cut. Smaller developers pay 15%, and subscriptions 15% after year 1. One could argue developers got greedy and pocketed the windfall instead of passing it along. I suspect most developers will stick with Apple becasue they will be cheaper or as cheap as alternatives and reach a much larger audience.
 
I wish Elon would buy Apple just so I could watch him tell the EU to stuff themselves. This whole thing is getting so tiresome and annoying, and Cook is just adding to it with his beta approach. The EU is corrupt and needs standing up to, and Apple has more than enough leverage to do it... but Cook won't, because Cook.

Sigh.
 
Apple would be smart to pause all 3rd party app sales to the EU until the threat to their business is eliminated. The concept that they have the right to impose a fine of 10% of their global sales. Here is why Apple may be forced to pull out of the EU over this extreme uncertainty eventually. If not, they will remove many of the features like most new apps and services, maybe just providing updated.

To determine the effect of an EU fine of 10% of global sales on Apple's profits, we need to follow these steps:

1. **Calculate the fine as 10% of global sales.**
2. **Calculate the total profit with a 36% profit margin.**
3. **Determine the new profit after accounting for the fine.**

Let’s break this down with a hypothetical example, assuming Apple’s global sales are \( X \).

1. **Fine Calculation:**
- Fine = 10% of global sales = \( 0.10 \times X \).

2. **Profit Calculation:**
- Profit margin = 36%, so total profit before the fine = \( 0.36 \times X \).

3. **New Profit Calculation:**
- New profit = Total profit before the fine - Fine
- New profit = \( (0.36 \times X) - (0.10 \times X) \)
- New profit = \( 0.36X - 0.10X \)
- New profit = \( 0.26X \).

Thus, the profit after accounting for the fine would be 26% of global sales. The fine would reduce Apple's profit by \( 0.10X \), which corresponds to a reduction in profit from 36% to 26% of global sales. This represents a significant decrease in the profit margin by 10 percentage points or approximately 27.78% of the original profit margin

That means the Fine is more than they make in the EU.
Or they could just comply. Like every other company is doing.

Whether you or anyone likes it or not, this regulation is happening in more places than the EU and eventually this stuff will be worldwide
 
Tesla innovation is withering on the vine
His "leadership" for Apple would cement the company as an also ran
I think Tesla is doing okish right now. But it's pretty obvious that EM went all in on self-driving because he knows that just building cars like everyone else can not sustain a high enough margin. This is bold, but also very risky of course. If he can't pull it off, TSLA shareholders will have a veeery bad time.
 
I think Tesla is doing okish right now.

Are we sure?



 
I know. The thing is, the whole market for EVs is in a slump right now. But I think it will soon recover. It's too early to write them off like that. The cars are still popular, at least where I live. But let's not digress too much.

I posted some other links
 
Are we sure?



AndnTesla still sold more EVs in the USthan all other EV manufacturers combined. So there’s that.
 
Sooner or later this is going to go against the EU and its people. Last to the market dumb down products that lack the services that other countries will be able to enjoy with a higher price tag. Enjoy.
 
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