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I agree with most of this post, I love my XS Max even when I've only used it for a day. The only think that I don't like but could be fixed, is the fact that there are almost no optimized apps for the new size. Most are just a zoomed in versions of the others so you can't actually see more information, which for me defeats the purpose of having a Max phone. I do understand it may take time for common developers, but seeing some Apple apps do that and also mainstream apps not being updated is pretty frustrating.

I remember that happened a lot with the iPhone 5, it was the first iPhone to have the taller screen, and it took months and months for apps to catch up. It was kind of like watching old TV shows on a flatscreen with the big black bars on the sides, only on the iPhone they were on the top and bottom. I haven’t come across any apps yet that haven’t been updated, care to share which ones you’re having probs with?
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I agree. However, let’s be assured of one thing that is absolute truth: OP is seeing much better battery life on their Max over 8 Plus, which does indeed mean the battery life is better. That is good.

Thank you, that’s all I’m trying to say here! :)
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When manually counting the bars from when he took it out of the charger, it seems to add up to ~7h of SOT. That's still impressive, imo.

And that was still with almost half battery left. That’s the crazy part to me.
 
funny......my max gets better reception where my 7 plus didn't get any reception

#fakenews

Sweet, Mine doesn’t and I have never had bad reception. It’s not really bad but it is dropping here and there. So hopefully they can find a fix soon.. #ActuallyNotFakeNews
 
Oh absolutely. He went from 100% to 38% and got about 7 hours of SOT. That’s about what I get and it’s definitely impressive. It’s about 10% of battery for every one hour of usage.

I just don’t want the OP thinking that he/she is going to be able to use his/her phone constantly for two days straight without ever having to recharge. That seems to be the way the OP is interpreting the battery stats.

I think a better presentation is in the Last Ten Days view. I posted mine below. You can see in Tuesday (for example), I had over 9 hours of SOT, over 2 hours of screen off usage and I consumed what looks like just short of 90% of the battery. If the OP looks at that, I think the numbers will look more like what’s below. Again, still impressive but it’s not at all what he’s saying it is.


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I don’t consider 10% loss per hour incredible battery life - that’s GOOD battery life. My phone has been off the charger for 3 hours and I’m at 84%.
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I only got 4 hours and 7 minutes of SOT from 100% to 16%, how the heck you're getting 9 hours from an iPhone with a 3.300 mAH battery?

That sounds like my old X! Are you doing heavy gaming or anything?
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I do not use very high brightness, I have auto brightness enabled but still dim it a little bit, I do enable true tone does that drain the battery?

You might have a faulty app causing the drain. Have you tried a simple soft reboot? That has worked for me in the past after updating iOS which can sometimes cause battery drain.
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Hey OP,

Think I have you beat :



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Has anyone else on this thread who is giving me crap seen this?? Or maybe they don’t think your confused or lying, bahaha!! Was that total screen on time until the battery died?
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Your battery life seems to match mine.
I posted a pic a couple of posts up but mine was at 5% battery life remaining.

I just saw that!! I’m gonna try and kill the battery before recharging and see what I get. Sorry about my combined replies, they’re are all coming out in one long comment instead of to each person separately, idk how to fix it! :(
 
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I don’t consider 10% loss per hour incredible battery life - that’s GOOD battery life. My phone has been off the charger for 3 hours and I’m at 84%.
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That sounds like my old X! Are you doing heavy gaming or anything?
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You might have a faulty app causing the drain. Have you tried a simple soft reboot? That has worked for me in the past after updating iOS which can sometimes cause battery drain.
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Has anyone else on this thread who is giving me crap seen this?? Or maybe they don’t think your confused or lying, bahaha!! Was that total screen on time until the battery died?

It matches your result, had you kept using it you would have gotten similar results.

I had a long day yesterday and at an event for most of the night.
 
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It’s so rare to actually get more than what we expected. I didn’t think I would be this happy and satisfied with the XS Max! :)
 
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I appreciate you backing up the OP on what they’re trying to explain, and I’m only getting touchy because I’m being called “confused” and probably “lying,” to which I take offense. If your XS Max has INCREDIBLE battery life, what does that mean to you? To me, it means a phone that can’t be killed after less than a day, and one that doesn’t die completely for 2 days. The 16 hr total in my SS is likely because my phone was already 100% charged several hours before I actually took it off the charger.... so that’s how THAT is possible... If everyone ageees the Max has incredible battery life, then where is the delineation that makes everyone ELSE right, but I’m “confused” and/or “lying?”

I don’t know who said you were lying but it wasn’t me. In fact, I’ve said the opposite.

I do think you have unintentionally misstated the battery data on your phone. That’s not meant to be offensive and I hope you don’t take it that way. The 16 hours of usage that you’re referring to started at 4PM on Tuesday. Some of that usage began before you began charging your phone. You can add up the individual bars on the screen and prove it for yourself.

You’ve said a couple of times that you got 9 hours of screen on time and 7 hours of screen off time in a 12 hour period. Again, that’s not possible. I think what people are doing is trying to help you understand what your phone is saying.
 
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I don’t consider 10% loss per hour incredible battery life - that’s GOOD battery life. My phone has been off the charger for 3 hours and I’m at 84%.
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That sounds like my old X! Are you doing heavy gaming or anything?
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You might have a faulty app causing the drain. Have you tried a simple soft reboot? That has worked for me in the past after updating iOS which can sometimes cause battery drain.
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Has anyone else on this thread who is giving me crap seen this?? Or maybe they don’t think your confused or lying, bahaha!! Was that total screen on time until the battery died?
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I just saw that!! I’m gonna try and kill the battery before recharging and see what I get. Sorry about my combined replies, they’re are all coming out in one long comment instead of to each person separately, idk how to fix it! :(
I don’t game, might be some App I’m not sure, I guess I’ll uninstall every App besides Apple’s to check.
 
I have an unhealthy obsession with mobile phone battery life. I know more about lithium ion batteries than most people. I’m just telling you that it’s not possible for you, me, president trump or anyone else to get 9 hours of screen on time and have 40% left. The graph is confusing. If it showed “since last full charge” like iOS 11, then it would be black and white. As it is now, it shows “last 24 hours”. I’m sorry you feel insulted, because I honestly mean no harm. What you’re saying is akin to someone saying they got 50 miles per gallon in a car rated for 30. On my 8 plus I get about 1 hour of usage per 10%. That is usage, not even screen on time. I had a max for the weekend and it was marginally better. Honestly I hope you can prove me wrong, but it would be the most shocking thing I have EVER seen from any smart phone if the max could really get that kind of battery life. The link above said it was good for 10.5 hours from 100-0 on their testing. Not sure how your phone would get an extra 4-5 hours over that, considering real world usage is much harder on a battery than a controlled test with perfect service.

TLDR: I didn’t mean any harm, but I just do not see how 9h of sot with 40% left is possible on any phone, let alone one with a 6.5” screen and a 3100mah battery. Apple battery life has always been good but not great, but it’s standby is industry leading.

You seem to know the most on this thread about screen-on/off/Apple sucky graphs, so what do you make of FFR’s usage?

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You seem to know the most on this thread about screen-on/off/Apple sucky graphs, so what do you make of FFR’s usage?

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He's got roughly 10 hours of usage there after removing from the charger... each blue is an hour when maxed out. Looking at the chart above, you can tell when he removed the phone from the charger. Count the blue lines past that point on the graph below. About 10 hours usage. 9 hours were accumulated BEFORE he put it on the charger.
 
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I don’t know who said you were lying but it wasn’t me. In fact, I’ve said the opposite.

I do think you have unintentionally misstated the battery data on your phone. That’s not meant to be offensive and I hope you don’t take it that way. The 16 hours of usage that you’re referring to started at 4PM on Tuesday. Some of that usage began before you began charging your phone. You can add up the individual bars on the screen and prove it for yourself.

You’ve said a couple of times that you got 9 hours of screen on time and 7 hours of screen off time in a 12 hour period. Again, that’s not possible. I think what people are doing is trying to help you understand what your phone is saying.

I showed you the battery graph, I believe some of those 16 hours were when my phone was still charging and a sleep app was running in the background. Is this also impossible, then? A screenshot from FFR’s battery usage, I’m having trouble getting my comments to reply to each person, so I took a screenshot of his screenshot

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Has anyone else on this thread who is giving me crap seen this?? Or maybe they don’t think your confused or lying, bahaha!! Was that total screen on time until the battery died?

Notice how the phone was on the charger for like 8 hours. Also notice that he is using the phone while it is plugged in between 12AM and 3AM.

Before that, he ran it down from about 60% to zero. Charged it up to 100%, then ran it back down to zero again. That’s 160% of battery life used over the 24 hour period. He got 19 hours of SOT with 160% battery but...over two of those hours were spent on the charger. So it’s really 17 hours with 160% of the battery...which works out to 10% per hour. Which is what everyone has been trying to tell you.

EDIT: I just saw your post above. Yes, he was able to rack up usage hours while his phone was charging and not using the battery.
 
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Black box represents time since he pulled it off the charger as that's when we see the battery start to drop. He has roughly 9.5 hours of on screen time (dark blue bars)
 
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Black box represents time since he pulled it off the charger as that's when we see the battery start to drop. He has roughly 9.5 hours of on screen time (dark blue bars)
But the last half hour usage it was on the charger.

The main thing shown by that screenshot is he never puts his phone down for like 9 hours straight. How is that even possible?
 
I don’t game, might be some App I’m not sure, I guess I’ll uninstall every App besides Apple’s to check.

You could also look at the background activity of each app before you go through all that work. Also, check how many apps have Background App Refresh turned on. That can eat through battery like crazy. I have it turned off for everything except Maps, mail, and weather.
 
I remember that happened a lot with the iPhone 5, it was the first iPhone to have the taller screen, and it took months and months for apps to catch up. It was kind of like watching old TV shows on a flatscreen with the big black bars on the sides, only on the iPhone they were on the top and bottom. I haven’t come across any apps yet that haven’t been updated, care to share which ones you’re having probs with?
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Almost no of my apps are updated, unless for me almost all the apps are just zoomed versions of the x apps. That means they display the same amount of information but bigger.

That for me is really frustrating
 
Notice how the phone was on the charger for like 8 hours. Also notice that he is using the phone while it is plugged in between 12AM and 3AM.

Before that, he ran it down from about 60% to zero. Charged it up to 100%, then ran it back down to zero again. That’s 160% of battery life used over the 24 hour period. He got 19 hours of SOT with 160% battery but...over two of those hours were spent on the charger. So it’s really 17 hours with 160% of the battery...which works out to 10% per hour. Which is what everyone has been trying to tell you.

EDIT: I just saw your post above. Yes, he was able to rack up usage hours while his phone was charging and not using the battery.

How do you know the phone was being used on the charger? Where in the graph is that?
 
But the last half hour usage it was on the charger.

The main thing shown by that screenshot is he never puts his phone down for like 9 hours straight. How is that even possible?

Told you guys yesterday was a long day .
Attending an event phone never get switched off.
 
You could also look at the background activity of each app before you go through all that work. Also, check how many apps have Background App Refresh turned on. That can eat through battery like crazy. I have it turned off for everything except Maps, mail, and weather.
I also have Background App Refresh turned off for everything, in the battery stats it doesn't seem to be any background activity from Apps.
 
How do you know the phone was being used on the charger? Where in the graph is that?

The timeline for the battery and activity line up and show a 24 hour period.. the blue activity bars tell you how much screen time on (dark blue) and screen off time (light blue) your phone has been active. Each activity bar is an hour.

If you look at the battery graph, charging times are represented by this light green shaded background on the chart. When the bar is full, the battery is 100%.

The time on is for the ENTIRE 24 hour period.
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I've highlighted with the black box each charging time on this screen shot.
 
Notice how the phone was on the charger for like 8 hours. Also notice that he is using the phone while it is plugged in between 12AM and 3AM.

Before that, he ran it down from about 60% to zero. Charged it up to 100%, then ran it back down to zero again. That’s 160% of battery life used over the 24 hour period. He got 19 hours of SOT with 160% battery but...over two of those hours were spent on the charger. So it’s really 17 hours with 160% of the battery...which works out to 10% per hour. Which is what everyone has been trying to tell you.

EDIT: I just saw your post above. Yes, he was able to rack up usage hours while his phone was charging and not using the battery.

Ok, so I’m gonna do a new test to let the battery die completely and then see what my results are. That is, if I can rely on the Apple stats, which you keep saying aren’t accurate, but you still keep analyzing anyway. Bahaha! :)

Please understand.... My main point is NOT what I expect to get out of a 24 hr period. It’s not that I am trying to “predict” and “promote” 20 hours of screen time in one battery charge. It’s YOU guys who keep taking my comments to that level, when all I’m talking about is what I get out of my usage in a normal day, and how much battery I have left over. Even if my phone were to die after 9.5 hrs screen time, I would be happy. Instead, I’m left with another 38% battery life! How is that not dope? My X would die every damn night, my 8 Plus would go <20% but that was still good bc I had reserve, now my XS Max got 10.5 screen on time with 29% battery left since I next charged it this morning. Idk why you think there’s nothing amazing about that, but it is actually INSANE battery life compared to my 2 former iPhones, and a number of OP on here agree with me.
 
After owning every single iPhone model made (except the 5c, that was just a joke), the XS Max is the BEST iPHONE I HAVE EVER HAD! It’s one of those products that has the things you want from different devices all rolled into one! I can’t remember ever being so satisfied, so HAPPY with a phone! Is anyone else feeling like this!?

1. BATTERY LIFE: Beats the 8 Plus, which is saying something! I currently have almost 8 hours of screen time and 7.5 hrs standby, and my battery is at 51%! What!! I cannot kill this battery!

2. CAMERA: as good as the Pixel 2 XL! How!? I can finally take low-light pictures that look GREAT, and daytime shots are as good as my pro camera Sony A7RIII. How?

3. SCREEN: Even better than the iPhone X for color calibration. Unless you have a defective phone, the color saturation IMO is better than any other iPhone made, and even beats the Note 9 (also saying something bc Samsung finally got it right this year!)

4. SIZE: Slightly smaller than the 8 Plus but it’s all screen, yet it doesn’t FEEL big because I can still use it one-handed, which literally makes it the PERFECT size phone for me!

5. SPEED: I’m speechless on this one. Aside from a few weird freezes I’ve had, I don’t know how to describe how fast the XS Max is... It so precisely matches everything I do, that I don’t even think about how fast everything is happening. My phone no longer gets in my way.... Does that make sense?

Damn, I am so happy!!
The newest and most expensive iphone is the best ever? Really? Do tell!
 
Ok, so I’m gonna do a new test to let the battery die completely and then see what my results are. That is, if I can rely on the Apple stats, which you keep saying aren’t accurate, but you still keep analyzing anyway. Bahaha! :)

Please understand.... My main point is NOT what I expect to get out of a 24 hr period. It’s not that I am trying to “predict” and “promote” 20 hours of screen time in one battery charge. It’s YOU guys who keep taking my comments to that level, when all I’m talking about is what I get out of my usage in a normal day, and how much battery I have left over. Even if my phone were to die after 9.5 hrs screen time, I would be happy. Instead, I’m left with another 38% battery life! How is that not dope? My X would die every damn night, my 8 Plus would go <20% but that was still good bc I had reserve, now my XS Max got 10.5 screen on time with 29% battery left since I next charged it this morning. Idk why you think there’s nothing amazing about that, but it is actually INSANE battery life compared to my 2 former iPhones, and a number of OP on here agree with me.
You had roughly 7 hours screen-on time after you took it off the charger on your screenshot on post #11. Not 9 hours.
 
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How do you know the phone was being used on the charger? Where in the graph is that?

Look at where the green chart starts to go up. Now look at the one below it. The one with the blue bars.

Notice how he has blue bars underneath where the battery graph starts to go up again. That indicates that he is charging and using the phone concurrently.
 
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