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The major problem with the reception of this device is that many see it as a netbook, and apple has contributed to the ambiguity by including iworks and the dock. If you view the ipad as a webveiwer with advanced game, book and video functionality for sofa use, it largely succeeds--the easy chair at the presentation was the meta-message. When you try to find ways to make a netbook, it starts to seem lacking.

The flash issue will resolve itself, but not with html 5. Apple has just introduced the first real touch internet device--the whole phone internet arena is a toy/tool for early adapters--it is unweildy and slow--even in wifi mode. So there will need to be a shake out period for new browser development. One of those strategies will be an adobe based Flash port for existing flash content. Apple may not embrace this, but the coming rush of pc derived follow on products may. Apple however, may not be the minority player in the pad market; it may dominate as it did with the ipod.

I do think there is a major opportunity for someone else to make a better device and take the initiative in this market--i just don't know if any of the current players are up to it. Apple may win by deault.

Its seems certain to me that form factor will succeed, but not as a laptop replacement

Dell Mini 5

http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/dell-mini-5-android-tablet-specs-review/

3G + wi-fi plus it fits in my pocket plus I can make a phone call if I want to use it as a phone.

Im sold! this exactly what I need
 
Well it is good to see that some developers understand what it is. Seems most people here don't and will have to beaten into submission to actually understand what it is and why it will be extremely cool.

As long as developers take advantage of this unique opportunity, that will be enough to propel this things to great heights. Ultimately the apps are what do it. It is what ultimately made the iphone an unassailable device on the phone market and will be the cornerstone for the iPad as it creates an entire new market that doesn't even exist.
 
And with the app store we have seen the return of the dedicated application! Many, many iPhone applications are just 'smart interfaces' for data that's readily available on the internet (not necessarily on the web). But these interfaces are less cumbersome, present the data in a more useful way and only present the choices the user needs.

I like your analysis but the problem I have with the app store is that there are a hundred if not a thousand apps for every task, and choosing between them is a hassle. Then you have to actually go to your browser and read reviews and reviewers' lists of the best apps, and on and on. If they could find a way to simplify this process it would really ease this transition.
 
If the iPad gets iWork apps then why can't my iPhone?

Because using iWork on a 3.5" screen with your fingers with a processor that has barely more than half the power of the A4 is ridiculous and way to much trouble than it's worth (at least for 99.9% of the population).
 
However, the tablets running Windows 7 will be even more inexpensive and open to an even more massive audience of developers. Plus, they will not be crippled with a phone OS focused on "media consumption." Apple blew it by not putting OS X on the iPad.

That is why Windows Mobile phones dominate the cell phone market.
 
People who are negative about the iPad because of the lack of a camera, or some other feature, should not be. Content is king. The main point of this first edition is for Apple to stake out their position in this space, in order to pull in a wave of developers and content providers. It was more important to get a credible product out at the right price point as soon as possible, than to get the perfect product out that satisfies all needs. Video conferencing and other mainstream enhancements will come in subsequent versions. Apple did not miss the boat-- companies introducing new products always must make choices among price/cost, schedule/availability, and features.
 
I like your analysis but the problem I have with the app store is that there are a hundred if not a thousand apps for every task, and choosing between them is a hassle.

No different from the local supermarket, department store, bookstore, etc.

Or do you prefer the old communist regime method, only one brand of toothpaste in the store, and you have to wait in line because it's always out of stock.

Old fashioned competition in the App store looks like it will encourage lots of innovation at providing the best mobile multi-touch UI with which to access and use all those computers and services in the cloud.
 
...actually

Once I stopped looking at it as a 'big iPhone' or tablet pc, I started to see the value of this thing. E-books and iWorks is the worst possible way to sell it's potential. Games or other highly interactive apps are. The interface is really what makes this device compelling.
 
Well at least until I do reality check and see other Tablet devices from competing manufactures...

:D

When do you think that will be?

And who designed the OS and most importantly the User Interface? Who is going to do that so they have even a small chance of competing?

I don't know of anyone, so please let me know who it is going to be.
 
This seems like a silly statement given the success of the iPhone and iPod Touch with the exact same limitations.

People don't seem to think before they type.

We can only hope they eventually buy an iPad and decide to flip to the next post instead of typing in a dumb response.
 
What about the rest of the world, you sound like a very selfish person, the world doesn't spin around u and Apple figured out that long time ago.
For the rest of us that in my case there is no point having an iphone cause is too expensive or the data service sucks it will be a very nice product. I still have like 60 apps from the first gen iphone I had years ago!
:)

I know some users don't use their computers for long durations or don't use it for complex tasks so they'll enjoy the iPad. I meant that for the average/power user a tablet is a bad form-factor so Apple shouldn't refrain from providing a solution for most of its users.

As for implementing multi-touch on a Mac, it's very simple: imagine a MacBook with 2 multi-touch screens so that the 2nd screen replaces the keyboard and trackpad. You don't have to lift your hand to the main screen all the time since you have the bottom touch screen. For an occasional touch you can also use the top screen, just in case you really need to. That way you get the benefits of the tablet in the form-factor you're most comfortable with.
 
It could be that this device heralds the first step away from the "typewriter" metaphor that's been with us since 1868.

I've been more then a little impressed with the "thinking outside the box" that I've seen with the app designers for the iPhone and touch. I wonder if we will recognize the computer of 10 years from now.

Couldn't agree more. If we look at what we were all using 10 years ago, even 5 years ago, and what is coming out now... it's fun to imagine what we'll be using in 20 years. ...in 50 years... in 1000 years...

As analog stimuli recognition improves the days of keyboards, mice, and familiar form factors are numbered.

It's interesting to think about what we'd be working with today if knowledge, innovation, and progress weren't outlawed and punishable by death for over a thousand years.
 
i dont know anything about developing games or anything, but it'd be cool if you could use the ipad for board games, like scrabble, and the players could use their iphone to hold their letters, etc.(if you could see the screen of the ipad from any angle), or just use it standing up and use it as the screen for a game instead of a tv(though being able to use a tv and have iphones as controllers would be more amazing).
 
i dont know anything about developing games or anything, but it'd be cool if you could use the ipad for board games, like scrabble, and the players could use their iphone to hold their letters, etc.(if you could see the screen of the ipad from any angle), or just use it standing up and use it as the screen for a game instead of a tv(though being able to use a tv and have iphones as controllers would be more amazing).

That's a lot of needless technology at work :)
 
First post here, hi everybody!

To the point:

most of the people just missing the point of the whole concept i think.

First of all, it will be this cheap (relatively cheap,compared to the usual apple products), because if you want to enjoy most of the capabilities of the device, you must download from the appstore. Instead of charging you big money for the hardvare, they will get money consantly from you because of the closed enviroment. If anybody wants a full apple tablet, go for the axiotron modbook.
Second, Apple is right about building the ipod-iphone-ipad around the simplified UI, since over time, it has proven itself, thet MOST of the people just find this easier, and more intuitive. Take the facebook application for iphone. IMHO it's just better than the web interface.
Forcing the developers to optimize their applications on this enviroment, is securing the user experince quality overall.
Third, we should be thankful, that they never gave us a second Windows mobile. Remember, how well things worked out on a smaller screen, same looks ? :D

Sad, as it is, but freedom means chaos. And Apple is a dictator, keeping us from sinking into anarchy. ( this was ironic :D )
 
Wall Mounted iPad

I can think of some very nice applications for the iPad. Imagine the device being mounted to a wall at eye height in your living room. In that position it can very conveniently be used as, e.g. :

* a controller for your Apple TV.
* a bulletin board for the family. leave messages for family members. send a message from your iPhone or iPod Touch (or other device) to the bulletin board.
* a photo frame
* a home control system. switch lights, open curtains, etc.
* a recipe book. (if it is mounted in or near the kitchen)
* etc, etc, etc...

Of course, it should be mounted such, that it can easily be attached and detached so you still carry it around.
 
Greedy Developer 2

;)Is this the same 1/2 highly revered developers that shunned the App Store in the first place making headless about Apple's policy's and pricing?! IF so then it further strengthens my original view months ago about the Greedy Developer. (you'll have to search to know what I'm talking about).

Ok enough about the iPad until its released, please. I'd like to see the MacBook Pro's updated already with Core i5/i7's and NVidia 330M or 335GT's. This delay caused me to get an HP laptop in the interim because my desktop is horribly slow for my uses. Man these updates are just too small and take too long to be delivered.
 
The idea that you, and maybe Apple have, is very dangerous. It means that Apple is in control of everything through the App Store. While many fanboys on this forum don't have a problem with it, they should. Why?:

-Apple will have more control over your device than you will and they have already proven that the approval process is at the very least controversial.

-People may believe that Apple won't try to misuse the leverage they have with the iPhone OS but they already have to an extent with Flash. Flash will be all but dead 5-10 years from now and Apple will primarily be credited with it. With iTunes, iPhone OS & the App Store, Apple will now be in control of the any video/audio format on the web. Who's to say that Apple won't introduce their own proprietary codecs? There hasn't been a company yet that hasn't abused the power they have.

If you define control as having tighter device standards in order to maintain quality, most people wouldn't have a problem with that. Most people don't buy consumer electronics with the intention of hacking the crap out of it so they can remote control their microwave. Most people just want the thing to work with no headaches.

Far as Flash goes, there have been plenty of companies trying to kill it. Microsoft, Google, even Adobe was trying to kill it before they acquired the technology. That's called competition.
 
...for remote access to content, files and more, wireless broadband needs to be very fast and seamless. As of January 30 2010, no nation on Earth offers this.

I wish to add that Sweden has it depending on what you mean with fast and seamless :p
I read several places stating that Sweden is the country with most internet access in the world. We have loads of 3G modems and phones surfing over 3G. Even in northern Sweden out in the woods and hills you get some access :D
 
The idea that you, and maybe Apple have, is very dangerous. It means that Apple is in control of everything through the App Store. While many fanboys on this forum don't have a problem with it, they should. Why?

Why dangerous? Apple will only be in control of the Apple app store for Apple devices.

Nothing is stopping Nokia, Google and all others to introduce similar devices with similar ideas. Google has the Android store (even though it also believes the browser will be everything) and Nokia has the Ovi store. Both stores are in their infancy and not as tightly managed as the Apple store. At the moment, they're not that successful. But that's just implementation - The Playstation Store by Sony is offering quite a bit of content already for PS3 owners. And no doubt Microsoft will also try to copy Apple.

You know what you're getting into. If you don't agree with the Apple app store model, vote with your wallet and don't buy their devices. You can also hack and jailbreak the Apple devices and rob developers of their income. That's your call.

Google and Nokia phones are (currently) open. The open model has advantages, but elsewhere in this thread it's already been said the the open model is risky as well. Any Android app could be a trojan or a virus. The Apple approval process eliminates that.

In the end, it's your choice. Just don't blame Apple for not creating the devices you would like to have. They'll follow their own agenda and if they fail because of that, so be it. Right now they do not look as if they're failing.
 
I like your analysis but the problem I have with the app store is that there are a hundred if not a thousand apps for every task, and choosing between them is a hassle. Then you have to actually go to your browser and read reviews and reviewers' lists of the best apps, and on and on. If they could find a way to simplify this process it would really ease this transition.

That's implementation and it will change. The app store on the iPad has way more room for its interface so it will make the process easier.
 
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