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WOW!

Never heard of Dell Mini 5 :eek:

Looks awesome - it has camera, supports Flash and its bloody fast!

Hmmm...

Apple might find itself with one hell of competition very soon indeed!

Yes because a 5" screen is almost the same size as a 10" screen.

I imagine when tv companies started making 42" flat screens they were concerned by people making 20" standard tvs eating into their business.
 
you betcha... 17" MB pro, and an iphone 3gs (jailbroken, of course). I'd hackintosh a dell mini10v before I bought a pad without a camera and decent web support... and they are on sale now... less than $300...

macsales.com also has the axiom modbook, which is too expensive, but that offers a stylus and handwriting support.

How is the touch screen on the v10? How much multitouch-enabled software does the modbook come with?
 
When the iPhone came out I resisted because of the extremely expensive data plans here in Canada (presently $85 a month for 5 GB). Initially, I couldn't see any use for an iPod Touch, but once I had bought one, I couldn't live without it. I use it for daily tasks; I use it in my business for information I need easily at hand (including audio tracks); for email when I am at the university, and much more.

At the moment, I don't know where the iPad will go, but just to start I see it at the university - holding my lecture notes, having all the texts I have assigned, taking notes for future lecture topics, easy access to email and the web, communicating with students in the on-line portion of my course, and many other things not yet developed or imagined.

I started with an Apple //e in the early 1980's and have always found Apple products adjust to my needs. The first thing I used the //e for was to use BASIC to design a list of locker numbers.
 
The major problem with the reception of this device is that many see it as a netbook, and apple has contributed to the ambiguity by including iworks and the dock. If you view the ipad as a webveiwer with advanced game, book and video functionality for sofa use, it largely succeeds--the easy chair at the presentation was the meta-message. When you try to find ways to make a netbook, it starts to seem lacking.

The flash issue will resolve itself, but not with html 5. Apple has just introduced the first real touch internet device--the whole phone internet arena is a toy/tool for early adapters--it is unweildy and slow--even in wifi mode. So there will need to be a shake out period for new browser development. One of those strategies will be an adobe based Flash port for existing flash content. Apple may not embrace this, but the coming rush of pc derived follow on products may. Apple however, may not be the minority player in the pad market; it may dominate as it did with the ipod.

I do think there is a major opportunity for someone else to make a better device and take the initiative in this market--i just don't know if any of the current players are up to it. Apple may win by deault.

Its seems certain to me that form factor will succeed, but not as a laptop replacement

How do you figure? Apple is clearly not positioning it as a netbook and the average consumer wouldn't know a netbook if it slapped 'em upside the head. It will succeed for the same reason that the iPhone and the iPod have: It's cool and fun and is going to have some great apps. Apple is going to sell a crap-load of these. At least one of them to me. ;)
 
When the iPhone came out I resisted because of the extremely expensive data plans here in Canada (presently $85 a month for 5 GB). Initially, I couldn't see any use for an iPod Touch, but once I had bought one, I couldn't live without it. I use it for daily tasks; I use it in my business for information I need easily at hand (including audio tracks); for email when I am at the university, and much more.

At the moment, I don't know where the iPad will go, but just to start I see it at the university - holding my lecture notes, having all the texts I have assigned, taking notes for future lecture topics, easy access to email and the web, communicating with students in the on-line portion of my course, and many other things not yet developed or imagined.

I started with an Apple //e in the early 1980's and have always found Apple products adjust to my needs. The first thing I used the //e for was to use BASIC to design a list of locker numbers.


and I'm sure the pad will probably be an excellent product ONE DAY... they set the bar SOOOO LOW with the first one... there is nowhere to go but up... (although the bar was really the iphone 3gs... and they fell short of that)
 
I don't think it's for me. If I could spare $500, maybe, but I'd want a new MBP, iPhone, and Kindle first (e-ink is the only way to go for e-books).

The fact that the iPad is thin and the battery last forever are great selling points. For casual entertainment, and 1 on 1 presentations I think it's awesome, but for doing work and reading books, I'd say at best it's average.

IMO you'd have to have more discretionary income than the average apple consumer, to be able to justify buying it. Especially, if like most people, you already own a laptop and iPhone.

I agree with your point about it being average for getting work done, but just average as an eBook reader? I'm not a huge reader, but if I was I would buy it just for that purpose. It makes the Kindle look like a old TI calculator by comparison.
 
The prospect of Garageband and other audio editing applications on iPad is interesting but they would be limited without a way to connect MIDI peripherals to the device. If only there was a USB port on the iPad... Having said that, it is not impossible that there will be some kind of dock-based or solution, assuming new audio hardware is designed with the iPad and iPhone in mind.
 
For example, before it was even released - I already saw 2 competitor Tablet products that are way better than iPad...

Did they have a price tag yet? Did they offer a ship date yet? No?

That's because you saw the electronic equivalent of a "concept car."

There will be other products by other manufactures in this market, no doubt. They've been waiting for Apple to set the bar and it's one with high performance with a low price. A lot of tents are being packed up and a lot of wannabe competitors are backing out the door... no gold here for easy picking.
 
The prospect of Garageband and other audio editing applications on iPad is interesting but they would be limited without a way to connect MIDI peripherals to the device. If only there was a USB port on the iPad... Having said that, it is not impossible that there will be some kind of dock-based or solution, assuming new audio hardware is designed with the iPad and iPhone in mind.


That would be nice, but garageband runs on osx, not the crippled iphone software that the pad uses... sad...
 
The prospect of Garageband and other audio editing applications on iPad is interesting but they would be limited without a way to connect MIDI peripherals to the device. If only there was a USB port on the iPad...

Apple offers a cable that adapts from the iPad's main port to USB. That's how you sync the iPad and deliver your own content, etc.
 
Waaaaaahhhhhh! Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

That would be nice, but garageband runs on osx, not the crippled iphone software that the pad uses... sad...

What the hell do you care what OS the friggin thing uses? It's task oriented and if it does what you need, great, if not, don't buy it but stop your frigging complaining. FFS, it's not even released yet.
 
That would be nice, but garageband runs on osx, not the crippled iphone software that the pad uses... sad...

Patience, Grasshopper... the iPad hasn't even hit the streets yet. Much will be reveled to you in time.

What is really sad is your attitude. Your glass will always be half empty.
 
Ahem... funny thing about this is it was mainly myself who was promoting this aspect of the iPad a month ago, specifically concerning the JazzMutant Lemur, in combatting the idiotic implications of some forum users who doubted that the iPad would have any uses at all. In the process I was banned temporarily, but no doubt this is how they noticed that I brought up the Lemur.

So thanks for the (kinda) shout out MacRumors!

I think in this particular case (at least in part) they were referring to my post (if you were to click on that referenced "music tools" link) since I had posted a video of me using TouchOSC on the iPhone.
In any case, the more of use championing this the better!

I've been waiting for years for something close to the Lemur (but not as pricey) to come out and the iPad is finally it! In fact, I was working on my first game for the iPhone and am now going to put it on hold because I've had an idea for the longest time for a touch synth app that wouldn't have been possible on the iPhone (because there just wasn't enough screen real estate.)
 
Apple offers a cable that adapts from the iPad's main port to USB. That's how you sync the iPad and deliver your own content, etc.

Really?! Thanks for the pro-tip. All this time I have been syncing my iPods will sheer will-power.

Seriously, the USB Dock cable that we are all familiar with does not let you connect to any USB peripheral because there is one plug on USB cables for connecting to the computer and various others for connecting to your devices. The forthcoming iPad Camera Connection Kit will allow you to connect a camera to the iPad for downloading photos and that gives me hope a similar solution (or even the same peripheral) will make it possible to connect a MIDI keyboard and other peripherals.
 
IMO you'd have to have more discretionary income than the average apple consumer, to be able to justify buying it. Especially, if like most people, you already own a laptop and iPhone

Most people don't own a laptop and iphone.

Which is why "most people" is just the market :apple: is thinking of.

This is aimed squarely at people who may have a computer, but don't upgrade every other year, who would like the benefits of technology - if it wasn't for all the technology they had to learn about to get it.

"most people" don't want to boot up a computer - they just want to be able to turn it on and off like any other electrical device.

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The things that make the iPad so revolutionary are the things that have been left out.

This is the computer our parents have been waiting for.
 
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