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Yes, but you can't have everything. Apple for sure could have pumped the security and made the chances of a false positive higher, but what good would that have been!? Then the user experience would be really bad.

Im not saying it isn't good enough, I just want to squash the myth that the phone contains some magic making it better at ruling out others when it is actually trying get better at finding "you" in faces "obscured" by makeup/hair/what-ever.
 
But was not fooled a countless number of time. Do you take this into account?
Omg, I give up. This discussion here is futile with some of you guys. You all clearly seem to hold the pentagons secrets on your phone and all have a family feud, where your siblings are just dying to get into your phone, which wouldn't be that hard, as most people use a date as a passcode and siblings most likely would be able to figure it out.
But sure let's all go off collectively, about something that Apple always has communicated very clearly.
And countless numbers of times? How? The phone hasn't even been out for 48 hours.
All I can say is, that it work perfectly from the very beginning for me. I tried it with people that looked like me and there was no "fail". And after a week and all the neural engines out there being trained, videos like this one will be hard to find.
But sure, let's go off, shall we?
 
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Need both FaceID and TouchID simultaneously.

I agree. While it's true that a passcode can be used in situations where FaceID is insufficiently secure (or otherwise not usable, such as situations where the face must be covered), it would be great if people in those situations could choose Touch ID for the same reasons we loved it up until now -- it's better and faster than a passcode.
 
This reminds me of right after Touch ID was launched and some research firm spoofed it and immediately everyone was freaking out that Touch ID was hacked and no one was going to use it blah blah blah. There are people working overtime to piss all over Face ID because FUD sells and generates clicks. And when it’s FUD combined with Apple it’s all of that x 10.

Also how do we know this video is legit? How do we know they’re not using different handsets? Pro-or will believe anything these days and those salty that Apple got rid of Touch ID will certainly believe anything that makes Face ID appear to be less secure or more difficult to use.
 
OK, who cares, nothing is 100%. Why is it that society must always try to make something fail or find fault? Why can't we try to find the positive in things in life and not usually always trying to find the negative.
Because it's a $1000 device which replaces the 1 thing thing unique to every human being with something they claim to be more secure....
 
Lmao this is unbelievable. If you’re a criminal then maybe disable Face ID. About to get pulled over and you have drugs? Disable Face ID.

The comments here are crazyyyy.

You realize police can now ask for your code in many areas? You better off just closing your eyes and not looking at the phone.
 
Coming in 2018 Ass-ID
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The fact that the phone moves out of shot between each of the brothers has me thinking.... could they just be using two different handsets?
Don't say that on here. You will be torn to shreds. There is no way that anyone would ever do something like that for their 15 minutes of fame. No way. And anyway Face ID is sooo bad, and flawed and less convenient and horrible and less secure (even though the statics paint another picture) and just plainly awful. Apple is doomed.

PSA: This post might include sarcasm.
 
Exactly! People need to learn some basic statistics, basic genetics, and also use some common sense.
Statistics: The odds of finding a RANDOM person who will be able to unlock your phone is 1:1000000. Random is the key word.
Genetics: You share much more DNA with an immediate family member than with a random person. Therefore, the odds of looking alike are much greater within families.
Common Sense: THEY LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE!!!
Well, they don't look exactly alike - they do look enough alike to be brothers. Perhaps someone should market this as a family product, so the whole family can unlock the same phone (just kidding ...). It has been posted that face id gets more secure over time. This is a new product, so time will eventually tell one way or the other. I would hazard a guess that the technology will need further tweaking, both with hardware and analytical software using it.
 
Face ID didn't authenticate his brother's face upon first attempt, but once he put on a pair of black rim glasses, his face was able to unlock the iPhone X.

Everyone knows Clark Kent and Superman are the same person. Of course face id unlocked for both
 
I couldn't care less if a biological family member who looks similar to me can get in using Face ID. If I was that paranoid about it I'd use a passcode. What I do care about is some stranger on the street finding it and getting in - and for that, Face ID seems reasonably secure.
 
Here is the key to the video.

The other possibility is that the initial set-up was done with the phone further away from from the 1st brother's face than recommended. Apple says that Face ID works best when set up 10-20 inches away, which could likely mean the accuracy goes down if it was done from further away.
 
Because it's a $1000 device which replaces the 1 thing thing unique to every human being with something they claim to be more secure....
Except when Touch ID first came out everyone told us how unsecured fingerprints were and how they could be easily spoofed. Now fingerprints are the gold standard for biometrics?
 
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Those brothers look remarkably similar to each other, even though they have visual differences.
For all intents and purposes, they're not twins, but are close enough to fool FaceID.
 
First generation FaceID is is one of the many reasons I'm skipping the iPhone X. We forget how slow and clunky first gen TouchID was. I'll wait for the iPhone Xs, (iPhone XI, iPhone 11, iPhone Y) whatever they're going to call it.
 
The guy setup face ID with his glasses on, which is probably why it was able to unlock for both of them with glasses on. I also question the setup process since both had trouble unlocking the device.
 
First generation FaceID is is one of the many reasons I'm skipping the iPhone X. We forget how slow and clunky first gen TouchID was. I'll wait for the iPhone Xs, (iPhone XI, iPhone 11, iPhone Y) whatever they're going to call it.
Have you used Face ID? I have. Because I own the phone and I can tell you it's neither slow nor clunky (and the first gen. Touch ID was also never slow. The second generation was just ridiculously fast.)
 
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