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Face ID in iPhone X vs. 'Face Unlock' Facial Recognition in OnePlus 5T
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With Touch ID I couldn’t unlock when I had gloves on. Living in a cold weather state that was a major pain in the you know what. And with the iPhone 7 it was more difficult to get to the passcode screen because Touch ID was no longer a mechanical button and touching it with a glove on did nothing. Is that a fail? There is no perfect product with zero compromises. The silliest argument against Face ID is not being able to unlock your phone while still in your pocket. Seriously? Goodness how did you survive before the 5S? Whether Face ID is better than Touch ID or vice verse is completely subjective. For me Face ID is better because now I can easily use my phone with gloves on in the winter.
No Touch ID is not coming back to any new flagship iPhone. Guarantee it.
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I don’t think being able to unlock your phone while it’s mounted in your car should be a requirement when Apple is designing a new phone. Just because it worked with Touch ID doesn’t mean Apple was designing for it.
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I have no experience with facial recognition on other platforms than my shining X, but what I really like about FaceID is the tight integration in OS and functions. For example, messages on the locked screen are no longer readable for everyone who puts an eye on it, when you lift the device and recognises you as user it then shows the content below the placeholder. Also, no additional fingerprint-test for banking apps, you just look at the device and suddenly FaceId (identification) is a natural feature in the workflow without holding you up: identification is suddenly a "background"-process that takes place before you know it. It may sound irrelevant, but when using apps it really shows.
Although we have been acquainted to a physical button we just need to adapt, I think it is alike with the design-challenge of electrical car builders: they struggle with the front as there is no motor to cool anymore, so they create a fake grill just for the liking. Thanks to Apple to be consistent and strong with respect to dropping TouchID and no buttons on the back, take it or leave it
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Although we have been acquainted to a physical button we just need to adapt, I think it is alike with the design-challenge of electrical car builders: they struggle with the front as there is no motor to cool anymore, so they create a fake grill just for the liking. Thanks to Apple to be consistent and strong with respect to dropping TouchID and no buttons on the back, take it or leave it
!I will end this as well but will clear on few points...
You keep repeating that I am deflecting your posts by not answering them, from what I understood is that you prefer someone to spell out each point. I have said it before that my posts are condensed, so if you re-read, you will see I have answered them all. I am not going to repeat myself.
Again for the second time, I have explained that I understand Face ID is the future but Touch ID could be implemented, so why reply to that paragraph? I am not sure what you are trying to achieve? Why I bring other companies? This thread is comparing other companies biometric recognition. I wanted to point out that if Apple could have done it, we would have seen Touch ID on the X - I literally have to spell everything out to you, it’s just unbelievable.
My paragraph is a complete catastrophe? You wanted specific when I said flaws. Well, that paragraph relates to my second paragraph above (spelled out again) regarding finger sensor under the screen. You write lovely words but shows you don’t fully grasp anything others say and like a parrot have a script in hand. What part of by not admitting you did not understand? Or what do you understand, and then I will help you understand.
The cost does matter, and when I said it, you should be thinking - oh he is referring to the cost of the phone £1k. Again I have to spell it out.
Verified by who? And even you reply, which you won’t, can you tell me for certain that what they say is the absolute fact? You’re just not happy about the fly comment.
False? but you have twisted my words, if anyone reads our conversation can clearly see that you were trying to discredit my posts. You write a lot words, which can help someone with insomnia to sleep.
I am not defying others views, I actually welcome it. Please do tell. All I have read is people repeating what tech reviewers and Apple have said. When I challenge them, they can not justify any of it or provide their own opinion. For a second I think am talking to bots/employees - sensitive bunch. I never said iPhone X is bad, all I am saying it could be better and given my reasons. You have went off topic by taking this way too personally, I thought we could have had decent debate but how wrong was I...let’s agree on disagree.
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lol I knew you would reply to that, you seem to like links. I have read. I know that but what I am trying to point out that here everyone’s response well I am the minority because the sales are off the roof etc but we don’t know if it is true. Hence why I posted that link. Let’s not assume anything. I just think differently
Oh, were you going to explain in depth how apple works regarding their technologies?
But once you open the phone, you still need to take your gloves off to work with the touch screen, unless you only doing so using Siri...
About TouchID under the screen, that would be a dream - hopefully this tech will come in the near future.
Nah we will never see Touch ID under the screen..I’m not convinced android will have it either. I think all companies will go the Face ID route.
Thats where the problem starts, for opening you need to pick it up and look on it…
For the time being you're right, but nobody know what the future will bring us. One thing is for sure, when Apple bringing something new to the table, the rest of the companies following their trend... so hopefully once Apple will master the TouchID tech under the screen it will come back.
Obviously you haven't used one of these devices for a week or so. The learning capability is quite obvious as you use the thing.
Depends where it is on your desk, right next to you it’s accessable in certain angles. If you don’t want to pick it up using a passcode is hardly a big issue but more often than not you would always pick up your phone to use it.
"But once you open the phone, you still need to take your gloves off to work with the touch screen,..."
I use gloves that are touch screen compatible. They work great.
"About TouchID under the screen, that would be a dream - hopefully this tech will come in the near future."
That will never happen. FaceID works great and exceeds my (and many others') expectations. Why would Apple increase component cost and valuable space in a phone to duplicate what FaceID already does? That makes no sense.
At least in the way im using it, i can put my finger on the TouckID to unlock it while its on my desk\table, no passcode required (never liked using it) and use it without picking it up.
Sure but how useful is it really? It’s not like you can comfortably use your phone like that.
That article sounds like the very definition of a firm possibility of a definite maybe.
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For reading notifications, mails, messages (as well as quick answering), info checking while using the net or using specific apps is not problem what so ever while its lying on my table.
Indeed, it's well known and spoken about.
Half asleep, you reach for the phone (as people do) with face obscured by pillow such as in this photo:
The phone will not have a full clear shot of your face, so you will need to wake up a bit more and make an effort to get into position, as opposed to touch ID just working.
Not saying I hate Touch ID at all. I'm just aware in real life scenarios in real homes, under real usage, these problems exist now.
Face ID works for me in a situation pictured above: part of my face can be resting on a pillow. FaceID doesn't need to capture your entire face.
I was actually surprised by this. I expected checking my phone in bed to become less convenient, but it hasn't.
Agree, works very well for me too. Also quite surprised myself, thought this would be a situation that I would have to use the code.
Does it work when you have gloves on?
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Many gloves now are available with a material on the finger that allows you to work the screen. Of course Touch ID won't work with these gloves.
That "article" is clickbait and says nothing.lol I knew you would reply to that, you seem to like links. I have read. I know that but what I am trying to point out that here everyone’s response well I am the minority because the sales are off the roof etc but we don’t know if it is true. Hence why I posted that link. Let’s not assume anything. I just think differently
Well... To be fair, I've had issues as well when I'm wearing non-polarized sunglasses. Mine are quite large and seem to cause issues at times.
The two things I thought I would dislike the most on the X are the two features I like the most. I don’t miss the Home Button at all. The extra screen real estate is worth it and gesture that replaces it feels natural to me. I also love Face ID. Swipe to unlock is back and it’s as secure as I need it to be. If you’ve got somebody who is as committed as it takes to spoof Face ID then you’ve got bigger problems on your hands. Then again I don’t have siblings that look like me. I can see how that would be annoying.
I do hope that Apple keeps Touch ID in a model or two into the foreseeable future for those who want to use it instead of Face ID. There are use cases where Touch ID is superior but I absolutely love Face ID one month in.
I do hope that Apple keeps Touch ID in a model or two into the foreseeable future for those who want to use it instead of Face ID. There are use cases where Touch ID is superior but I absolutely love Face ID one month in.
Agreed, but Touch ID is history, we all need to just accept it. It's gone forever. Time to move on.
While faceID is clearly the most advanced face technique that’s like being the best boat when someone wants to drive home on their commute. TouchID is a better solution for day to day use for me. FaceID doesn’t seem that great as a replacement. It’s different in many worse ways. I hope if they extend faceID to iPads (why?) they allow more than one face.