Ad blockers are everywhere nowadays. You can install them on pretty much any device that exists. No company can survive off of traditional advertising. If they can make more money off of targeted ads, why shouldn't they? Just like Apple makes a penny every where they can, including not including certain parts with new phones to save a few pennies. As long as Facebook is operating with the law, and people have a choice whether or not to use their service they aren't doing anything wrong.
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Facebook Says Apple's Upcoming Anti-Tracking Prompt is 'More About Profit Than Privacy' [Updated]
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That's not a problem at all. Apple apps act identically to every other app, today. When Apple flips the switch and everyone's app does that except Apple's, then you have a valid point. Until then, what proof do you have that Apple won't follow their own rules in this scenario?
Also, I'd rather have the problem of Apple not playing completely fairly here than seeing the existing problem continue. Not saying I'm ok with Apple not playing by their own rules. But if I'm going to be disappointed, my preference would be disappointment from Apple not following their own rules over people stealing my data without my knowledge. Those two "problems" aren't even comparable to me.
You have been presented multiple times so far with screen shots of Apple’s policy on this .... they just don’t track you ... that‘s it .... even then ... you can opt out of their so called personalized ads ... must somebody ... again show you the screen shot ! Jeez !!!
Apple’s Ad Network Gets ‘Preferential Access To Users’ Data’ vs Facebook, Google, Others
Most people don’t even know that Apple runs an ad network ...
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Oh my God. Yes you can opt out of it if you know to do so. Would you grandma and your mom know how to go into the settings and opt out? Other apps give you a popup and ask you whether you want to be. Apple does not. You have to already know to go into the settings app and do it yourself. Apple's targeted advertising is turned on by default and you are given no prompt or warning.
Just like Apple is tracking you for the sake of small businesses and not for the $2B in revenue it makes each year off of advertising.
Yes it is good for the consumer to be presented with choice. The argument is that with Apple's own apps you are not presented with a popup or given any indication that you are being targeted. You have to manually go into the settings app and turn it off by yourself.
This is at least the tenth time I have posted this article in this thread. Apple makes $2B a year off of targeted advertising.
Apple ad revenue could hit $11B a year by 2025 – JP Morgan - 9to5Mac
Apple ad revenue could grow more than five-fold by 2025, according to JP Morgan. The bank says that the opportunity is created by ...
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just that FB is sneaky about it, and does not give you an option to limit it, nor not do it at all ...
I didn't have time to read all the other comments, so this may have been already stated. Facebook's claim that Apple's policy is "more about profit than privacy" is laughable. Facebook is 100% about profit, at the expense of everyone's privacy.
Facebook is upset because users will be able to take some control of their privacy, shielding them from pervasive advertising. That means small businesses will find less value in paying Facebook for advertising, which is very much a joke. Facebook has already been revealed to lie, cheat and steal when it comes to their ads. Advertisers don't get what they pay for, as Facebook has been repeatedly proven to falsify its reports, leading advertisers to believe their ads have more coverage and effectiveness than is true.
I, for one, will eagerly opt-out of all Facebook advertising. It's a scam, and Apple is finally giving us a means of fighting back. Facebook claims the small business owner will suffer, but the truth is, it's Facebook's advertising revenue that they're fighting so hard to protect. Facebook doesn't care about small business. It only cares about the money it can scam from them by selling them ads that don't work as they claim.
Facebook is upset because users will be able to take some control of their privacy, shielding them from pervasive advertising. That means small businesses will find less value in paying Facebook for advertising, which is very much a joke. Facebook has already been revealed to lie, cheat and steal when it comes to their ads. Advertisers don't get what they pay for, as Facebook has been repeatedly proven to falsify its reports, leading advertisers to believe their ads have more coverage and effectiveness than is true.
I, for one, will eagerly opt-out of all Facebook advertising. It's a scam, and Apple is finally giving us a means of fighting back. Facebook claims the small business owner will suffer, but the truth is, it's Facebook's advertising revenue that they're fighting so hard to protect. Facebook doesn't care about small business. It only cares about the money it can scam from them by selling them ads that don't work as they claim.
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and your point is? Apple let's me opt out ... FB does not present me with any option ...This is at least the tenth time I have posted this article in this thread. Apple makes $2B a year off of targeted advertising.
Apple ad revenue could hit $11B a year by 2025 – JP Morgan - 9to5Mac
Apple ad revenue could grow more than five-fold by 2025, according to JP Morgan. The bank says that the opportunity is created by ...
Nonsense, the simple solution to bypassing ad-blockers, a practice already employed by some websites, is to inject non-targeted advertising into their websites via other methods. The same kind of practice that has existed ever since the notion of advertising was created.
Visit Engadget, for instance with an ad blocker enabled and you will see something like this...
The advert is placed, as 'sponsored' content into their traditional newsfeed. I'm not being tracked, I'm not being targeted, yet they are still being paid for the advert.
Some companies would love for you to believe tracking is inherently essential to advertising, that they manage to convince people of that, well, that is the really worrying thing.
Now, I don't actually have a particular problem with targeted advertising, so long as it is a practice the user has agreed to. I do have a problem with companies complaining that their users should be informed of that fact in a clear, concise manner. And yes, I would also like that to apply to Apple as equally as every other company.
That's why apple will start prompting users whether they want to be tracked with Facebook's app or not. But, but, but Apple will not show the same prompt with their own apps which are currently targeting you. Unless you already know to go into the settings and turn if off yourself.
Of course Facebook does not present you with an option. Apple will start prompting users when they open Facebook's app whether they want to be tracked. Here's a question for you: when you open an apple app will they show you the same prompt? NO. If you don't know to go into the settings by yourself, then Apple will continue to track you and make $2B a year off that.
so hy can't FB enhance their setting menu and give me options? oh, I forgot, they are the angels and Apple is the demon ...
Huh non targeted advertising. So me a 40 year old male will see ads for makeup, or fisher price toys, or anything of the sort that I have no interest in. Since none of the ads will interest me, I will never click on them and they will make no money off of me. Contrast that with targeted advertising, and they can show you ads you are interested in and might click on and generate revenue.
I think you are doing it on purpose to get more post counts ...
Either that or you are a lost cause ... I won’t be commenting on this any further !
I propose you get back to subject ... this is about a extra prompt ... that’s it ...
And again by your own words you said that people already know Facebook spies on them using all sorts of techniques ... this prompt shouldn’t be a problem ... right !
Stay safe ... that’s the most important thing right now !
This is the fundamental dishonesty of Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook. The product is not free. It comes with the cost of an intrusive violation of privacy that is opaque and completely misunderstood by its users.
This doesn’t just include ads, but research Facebook does on its users to trigger them into more engagement that will cause more ad viewing.
The reason businesses should charge is so they do not fall into this ******** loop of creating triggering content and user experiences that are not healthy or even desired by “customers.”
It is Facebook’s fault that it can not provide a pro version of its own product because it has tied its futures and profit to tracking-based advertising.
Despite its technical excellence and open source contributions, Facebook is a terrible company. Both Facebook’s leadership and its shareholders deserve to lose for their support of this horrendous blight on the internet.
They don't need to. Apple will start doing that. But your angel Apple will not tell you that their apps are tracking you. Keep praising Apple
well guess what, I've turned that off years ago because I care about my privacy, FB doe not care about my privacy, which is why I removed the FB from my phone over a year ago ...
Good for you. You knew to turn that off and exercised your consumer choice by removing Facebook.