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Why they can't wait for Apple to do it first?
Because all Samsung does is copied by Samsung from Apple even as it's not known if Apple will introduce it next year, lol

Samsung told that facial recognition wasn't for security when they introduced the S8. It's a nice option you can pick up your phone and by doing that unlock it. You don't have to use it. But it saves time doing so.
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Read the article of the dog in your avatar. He's famous and also adorable. He's like apple's battery pack, lol
 
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Hilarious.

I was one of those folks who read these fascinating specs of G8, said wooow and then after a brief googling I think it's a meeeh.

Now this. Add the fact finger ID seems unusable with one hand, you cant reach senser with usual phone grab. Specs of the screen: color gamut is 90% of DCI-P3.

So its like quite raw product. And I would say the ad is also inferior. A bad copy of apples ads. Just like everything else. :D

it's basically like the S6 was to the S7. this is their new direction, shows a lot of promise, but still not quite there. The S9 will probably be the much better device of this design, just like the S7 was a much better device and more refined than the S6
 
This was the facial recognition not the iris scanner alao don't forget that the iPhone touch Id was bypassed by a nipple.
1) Someone didn't bypass a fingerprint with a nipple, they simply registserd it. If anything, that shows how impressive Apple's biometric technology is.

2) No matter how impressive the Iris scanner is doesn't excuse Samsung's security failure here.
 
it's basically like the S6 was to the S7. this is their new direction, shows a lot of promise, but still not quite there. The S9 will probably be the much better device of this design, just like the S7 was a much better device and more refined than the S6
Never used S phones and never follow Samsung mobile products. Byt if anything these small details paints S8 and Samsung rather incompetent. Especially after last year disaster. Oh boy. :eek:
 
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Never used S phones and never follow Samsung mobile products. Byt if anything these small details paints S8 and Samsung rather incompetent. Especially after last year disaster. Oh boy. :eek:

The note disaster sucked, but the S7 and most notably the Edge was very successful, and well executed device.

it's actually a very familiar cycle to the Apple "s" release cycle. generally, we got a new design with the major number release, and then on the "S" release, got refinements and feature updates.
 
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This is ridiculous. Because Samsung have offered you the option to use face recognition, they're being criticised.

If they had simply removed the feature and given the user less options, they would not be being criticised.

Why is this even being debated?
 
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I don't know that I trust reviews of security features to be truly independent or accurate no matter what type of phone it is. If after a few weeks the general consensus is that this isn't secure then I would be concerned about it.

This isn't going to matter to me because even if I do switch to an Android phone it will not be a Samsung. I've had too many unpleasant dealings with them on other products they make to buy another one.
 
Samsung screwed this one up imo. Facial recognition is basically the only fast way to unlock their new phone, but that's apparently not secure at all. The fingerprint sensor was fine as it was, but now it's just awkwardly placed on the back. Not intuitive at all.
 
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it's basically like the S6 was to the S7. this is their new direction, shows a lot of promise, but still not quite there. The S9 will probably be the much better device of this design, just like the S7 was a much better device and more refined than the S6

Irrelevant so long as the OS is Android. :apple:
 
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I know it's "GET EM BOYS!!" but the facial scanner is a convenience.

Only a complex password should be trusted for real security. Nope, not even a fingerprint.

These whiz-bang neat-o ways to unlock are fun conveniences. They sure beat no security, but aren't bulletproof. Anyone who mocks them with the expectation that they are super-secure isn't very bright.

But go on, kids...
 
I found an email from Verizon indicating I bought one of these. Apparently Verizon needs some technology to recognize when their customers are s^|? faced.
 
Raise to wake was made for this. Pick up your device, camera comes on and recognizes face, tracks iris position, and iris scanner turns on and makes the high res scan. Boom.
 
I don't want to derail the thread with PRSI, but I will just say this. The article you posted is NOT case law or amended under the Supreme Court and does NOT apply to all states. That was a Virginia ruling. It was never even passed according to that article, which also had the potential to be appealed under state law. So that really doesn't make much of a difference in Terms of law enforcement practices across the board.

And I'm telling you from experience, no police officer should make anyone unlock their phone without a warrant unless consent applies where a warrant isn't obtainable. If you have a community care taker doctrine or exigent circumstances apply, there is exceptions. But otherwise, get the warrant ethically to avoid any type of conflict or scrutiny that may follow there after. And I'm speaking for the state that I reside in based off training/standards and laws, which also departments have policy procedure manuals they have to follow accordingly based off Supreme Court ruling's. In your case, this article doesn't have a Supreme Court ruling and doesn't override what other state laws advocate.

Also the state I reside in, law-enforcement can conduct a LIMITED search through your wallet identify you. Which is a Supreme Court ruling under State Vs Flynn.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/al-court-of-criminal-appeals/1117060.html

Thanks for the discussion though.

I am with you, I don't mean to turn this into a PRSI discussion either. I fully agree with you that officers shouldn't make anyone unlock a phone without warrant or consent. I do know that laws and practices vary greatly from state to state. In 2011, it was reported that the Michigan State Police were using a Cellebrite "Universal Forensic Extraction Device" to connect to motorists cell phones and extract all types of data during routine traffic stops without consent or a warrant. Motorist claimed this was done without a warrant, the MSP claimed they only did it with a warrant, and when the ACLU tried using FOIA requests they were repeatedly obstructed from getting the information to prove one way or another.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...only-grab-your-cellphone-data-with-a-warrant/

According to a 2011 CNN story, warrantless searches of phones were pretty common in several states but this was at a time when security on phones was nowhere near as good as it is today.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/05/31/warrantless.phone.searches/index.html

The whole issue of "consent" probably confuses a lot of people. If a someone with a gun, badge, body armor and an authoritative voice and demeanor "asks" someone to unlock a phone, many people may interpret that as an order to unlock their phone. They may "consent" to unlock the phone out of fear rather than realizing they have the ability to politely decline the request.

I have not had the time to keep current with all the precedents in different jurisdictions and some that I am aware of may have been overturned so your points are well taken.
 
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Who cares? It's all gimmicky crap (Samsung or Apple). I am going to continue to use Touch ID.
 
Who cares? It's all gimmicky crap (Samsung or Apple). I am going to continue to use Touch ID.

Nobody said you can't continue to use touch ID, but I think with facial recognition/Iris scanning, it's a secondary option that still in the stages of developing. I don't think it's anything meant to be of perfection, but I think it's too early to see where this ultimately leads. I am curious to see what Apple does with Iris scanning/facial recognition for future iPhones.
 
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