It's not so impressive if it can't tell apart a fingerprint from a nipple. With that logic then the Samsung System is even more impressive because it can even recognize the person from a picture.
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Facial Recognition Feature on Galaxy S8 Bypassed Using Just a Photo
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I really can't tell if you're trolling now.
The iPhone doesn't confuse an fingerprint with a nipple. If you register a fingerprint, it recognizes only that fingerprint. If you register a nipple, it registers only that nipple.
When that article you linked earlier said "bypass", they simply meant "authenticate".
Isn't the fingerprint sensor supposed to only recognize fingerprints only? Why would it even recognize a nipple?
It recognized anything with skin contact. It's highly detailed, so it recognizes pretty much anything. That doesn't make it unsecure though.
Anyone using bio-metrics (face, iris, fingerprint, etc) as their "password" needs to just stop doing so. That is not a proper password, it is a username. Use a proper password if you care anything about your security ffs.
Shame on Apple, Samsung and other hardware developers who push using bio-metrics as a password!
Shame on Apple, Samsung and other hardware developers who push using bio-metrics as a password!
Because as we all know - no one ever made money making people's lives better with their products.
Actually, I simply pointed out that facial recognition has never been great to begin with. And that the feature of securing the phone was most likely also disabled on a display phone.
There was no contradiction. And I wasn't playing it on both sides.
Anyone could understand that. Unless they are determined to be biased and negative.
So, again, you continue to prove my point.
The S8 looks great but I think I'll wait until iPhone 8 comes out. I think Apple will come out with a more fine tuned product (quickly learning from any mistakes that Samsung makes).
Besides the rule usually goes, with any new tech always give it a few months before jumping in. But ... if the iPhone 8 is super awesome then screw the rule, I'm jumping in. Heh hehh..
I just wish the iPhone 8 was out now.... I hate waiting....
Besides the rule usually goes, with any new tech always give it a few months before jumping in. But ... if the iPhone 8 is super awesome then screw the rule, I'm jumping in. Heh hehh..
I just wish the iPhone 8 was out now.... I hate waiting....
Because the MUCH more secure fingerprint scanner was just moved to a very awkward spot; making this crappy ass insecure face unlock the de facto choice....
Duh.
What do you expect from a company who obsesses over beating Apple instead of focusing on creating good products?
Their priorities are all screwed up, and it shows in the quality of their offerings and their product design choices. Nothing's improved apart from the screen. The services are plain weird. Being able to see what's inside my fridge? Why is that even a stock feature? Partnering with Harmon Kardon to offer more expensive headphones in response to Apple removing the headphone jack?
It's clear Samsung doesn't stand for anything.
Actually, password alone isn't sufficient. A proper multi-factor authentication (MFA) verifies who you are (via iris scanner), what you have (token, badge or even phone) and what you know (pin or password). Fingerprint isn't ideal since it usually leaves a print that can be lifted to make a passable fake or easily bypassed by a 6 year old child when you're asleep.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/28/child-unlocks-sleeping-mom-iphone-using-thumb
Ok, so if I understand then, your point is:
Face unlock sucks really bad... you realize that & understand it.
However, although it CAN be easily thwarted by a photo, & that's been shown many times on many phones, and obviously, as a standard Android feature, will be precisely the same insecure on the new S8... you want to make it clear that- that insecurity (that we all know for certain is present), has yet to be shown, because a special demo mode on the S8s shown so far tricks users by pretending to register a face, but then unlocking whether it matches or not.
Ummmmm.... ok.
Cool. Thanks.
So you know... I agree w/ you (well, not about the demo thing; but since we both agree face unlock doesn't work- that's immaterial!). I absolutely FULLY support your stance that face unlock is an insecure joke.
Next.
With everything built in to the new Samsung, it's probably only a matter of software to make it ask you for a password that you type while it looks at your face, checks your finger print, and scans your iris.
The hardware is there. If all 4 features were used simultaneously, then no other consumer device would match its security. Technically, they could add a 5th level and do voice pattern matching combined. But at the same time, it'd irritate a person to do all those steps to unlock their phone for small tasks.
Because the option sucks.
What you have listed is a false choice. It shouldn't be between a crappy choice and no choice at all. It should be between a poorly-implemented feature and a properly-implemented one.
Apple might give me fewer options, but at least I know those options will be well refined and supported and baked into the system.
Take force touch for example. Apple has steadily rolled out improved support for it in iOS 10, and developers continue to support said feature in their apps as well. This is something that Apple clearly intends to make an integral part of the iPhone user experience, and their dedication to it gives me and developers the confidence to use it and make it a key part of our daily lives.
If this were Apple, we would now be criticising Apple for shipping a feature which was as flawed as it currently is. But Samsung somehow gets a free pass. Maybe because the critics here are so desperate for an "iPhone killer", any "iPhone killer", that they gleefully ignore each and every shortcoming the S8 has (which is basically every aspect of the phone except the display), much less have the audacity to posit the S8 as a paragon of great design.
Don't make me laugh. This is the threat which Apple is supposed to be collectivity losing sleep over? The iPhone 7 and 6S pose an even greater threat to the iPhone 8 than this. The double standard here is too blatant to even deny.
Do we really have to play this game every time?
Sign.
It opens some 'issues'...
That depends on what the 'problem' is... In this 'New American Whatever', the facial recognition 'solves' a problem. Just not what the user would think, or likely want.
But 'If you aren't doing anything wrong, you shouldn't worry', right? ;-)
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Funny how they're making this facial recognition unlocking technology a big deal. Four years ago I was able to unlock my friends S4 using facial recognition. I would have thought the technology has improved using some kind of 3D mapping technology. As usual Samsung is full of gimmicks, it's my less favorite Android if I ever switch.
Not true at all, a highly complex process is required to do it. It requires quite a bit of preparation
I've had countless Androids, and Samsung are the one brand I have always actively avoided. Appalling (any?) ethics, shameless rip off merchants and rushed, gimmicky bullet point "features". Oh, and the recent arrest news hardly inspires confidence.
But the masses love them... because of shiny and "not an Apple" and because of all this utter hogwash of "bbbbbut Android's open sourrrrrrrce" - if I wanted to open some sauce I'd go and buy some ketchup - just fix my software - I ain't a programmer.
I value Apple's respect for us and respect in changing what NEEDS to be changed, not just jumbling everything about and throwing enough sh__ at the wall and hoping it sticks... like "another" company.
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I think I am going to pick one of these up. DeX got me sold on my first samsung phones since smartphones were a thing. I will give this thing a run for its money in my two week grace period. If I can unlock the device using any method like this it's going back. I am not a terribly paranoid person, but if all it takes is a photo of my face, I won't be keeping it.
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you know, I didn't even think of what day it is. I hate tech news on April 1st. Because IDK what to believe.