What if he had a beard, a turban and a funny accent?
I'm not convinced the local police would be patting him on the back.
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What if he had a beard, a turban and a funny accent?
I'm not convinced the local police would be patting him on the back.
One part of her letter has stuck in my head. The part about her cleaning the floors and then her dad walks in and tracks mud all over them. And then she's expected to clean them again.
If that's true, that's just mean and unnecessary.
Take off your ****ing shoes before you enter the house. How hard is that?
If that's true, that's just mean and unnecessary.
Take off your ****ing shoes before you enter the house. How hard is that?
He didn't do any of those things. Have you ever fired a gun before? The vast majority of gun owners know how to handle them safely. It's only the people that have an anti-gun superiority complex that will pick one up off a table with their finger on the trigger and inspect it by pointing it at their own face. Every time.
You scare far too easily. This was nothing more than a creative way to dispose of a piece of property. He could have used a baseball bat or run over it with his truck. Both of those alternate methods also could have been used to murder his daughter, but I doubt that's the message she would get.
I am so glad I found my way to this post before skimming through all the rest of the "way to go dad" replies. A parent doesn't get to act like this without consequence. He's probably a deick all the time.. no wonder she played him. LOL
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I agree! The whole thing struck me as mental torture, and that is one good example of it. It isn't that she's not going to school or following all of his rules and doing chores. All she did was complain about her life, which everyone does! And then the crap about her paying for the bullets, etc. He has so much control over her. I have heard the expression that parents have to choose their battles, but it seems he has petty battles with her on every front and wins them all. It's not psychologically healthy to marginalize a person to that extent, or to any extent really. I am not trying to be hyperbolic when I say it looks to me like psychological abuse. Yet, at the same time, there is an odd creepy feel to it, where he seems happy and not even that mad, like he's acting. And if you go to his Facebook page you can see he seems to have a very high affect since this video made him a "star."
This is so twilight zone-ish to me. Think of TV shows for example with parents and children. Now, of course it's not real, but it attempts to capture the way people are. Have you ever seen a TV show where a teenager doesn't complain and the parents just contain the complaining? Have you ever seen a show where a parent can't get a teenager to do what they want but they still react in a normal way? The Cosby Show was unusual in what taskmasters the parents were on that show, but could you imagine if Bill Huxtable had shot one of his daughter's computers, filmed it, and then shown it to the world? It would be rather dark compared how that show wasa show many people saw as ideal. And I know that is art and not real life, but you know the expression about art and life. And in my real life, having been a child and having known other children and how they related to their parents, this would have been just extremely bizarre. I mean the reaction would have been, is there something wrong with him? Is he mentally ill? Not in a mean way, but it is just so far from the expected order of life. There are so many rational things you could do instead. You could take away the computer! He has guns locked up all over the house, why not lock up the computer? What would Bill Cosby, Tim Allen, or one of those other TV dads have done? Or your next door neighbor? What frightens me is how many people seem to think this would be normal behavior for their next door neighbor.
A couple things… from a father. Every single thing that my kids call "their property" were paid for by me. I consider everything I pay for to be something I can withhold in anyway I like. (not that I'd post a video of shooting it online, though).
Another item to think about: Those who grow up in areas where gun ownership is common are far less likely to be scared of them. I'll bet that video would be far more terrorizing to a kid living in an area where guns are generally only used by criminals, than by a girl who probably sees them every day. The gun culture of the area should probably be considered when making an assessment of the situation. Parents from that area are probably elated. Parents from Chicago, NY, etc. are understandably shocked.
I now live in an area where there are lots of earthquakes (Japan). We don't flinch for a 5.0. Visitors are terrified. I think there's a similarity.
I don't have an issue with shooting the computer, but I grew up where a lot of folks would shoot up targets in the back yard as a hobby. Shooting stuff up wasn't considered violent (if it's stuff in your own backyard). It was something to do while your steak is cooking on the grill. If he posted a video of him smacking his daughter, that'd be very different to me.
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It's nothing more than a very effective publicity stunt.
Don't feed the unstable, butthurt, attention whore.
Don't feed the unstable, butthurt, attention whore.
He's giving the daughter a wake-up call. Before this, her view of the situation was completely self-centered and based on an incorrect sense of entitlement. She now has an opportunity to seriously think about the whole situation.
And she got two lessons for her life that are invaluable: 1. Nothing on the internet is private (including Facebook postings starting with "To my parents" that you don't want your parents to read). 2. Actions have consequences.
An interesting statistics that I read, reasonably related: In the UK, the police runs a phone line that you can call to shop a criminal. The callers divide about equally into three groups: "Concerned citizens", friends and family who want to stop someone who is getting into crime before things get too bad, and criminals who report the competition.
The daughter basically said "I have power over you because I can post things on Facebook and you can do nothing about it.". The dad corrected that misunderstanding in a very convincing way.
WTF? He OWNED the computer and he BOUGHT it himself... if he wants to destroy it, it's his to destroy!
I'd rather see him shoot his own computer rather than some kid shooting my kid because he has a parent like you who doesn't believe in punishing a brat!
In the day we were just taken out back and "SWITCHED" with a limb off the tree! Nowadays you do it and your "abusing" the child, and end up in prison for child abuse! Teachers and principals at one time "PADDLED" you... what terrible things! But see what's going on in schools today? Kids are walking through the halls and LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE WITH AR15's and I have to ask the people who don't believe in punishment.... who actually gets punished in the end? BUT, this dad is just SO, SO TERRIBLE my Lord!
"SPARE THE ROD, SPOIL THE CHILD" is the best parable I've ever heard!
More kids need a knot jerked in their asses if you ask me!
People like you are what create these MONSTERS in society today because you don't believe in disciplining your kids!
I think that he wanted to send a message that simply telling her "I sold your computer" wouldn't get across. And if someone has the computer in their possession, it does'n ttake much to work around blocks like that.
As for the bit about the facebook wall?Who knows how long that will stay even after you delete it?
Facebook can harm you greatly and this girl is treating it like it's actually private stuff between friends. It's not. You can lose jobs, both jobs you are trying to get, and ones you already have.
You could be the next Clint McCance. Aka "douchebag"
Is he? From the sound of the post, she doesn't have any extra-cirricular activies, and
Agree.
You seem incredibly hostile towards this person... Something you want to tell us?
See, it's this mindset that's RUINING our youth, and our heritage!
A.) DID he shoot the laptop? NO, so it's all HYPOTHETICAL... it doesn't exist (even though your sick mind THINKS IT ACTUALLY DID!)
B.)Even if he did, it's HIS LAPTOP to shoot!
C.) He's an ADULT and if he wants to smoke, he CAN!
D.) I hope you get home invaded, OR get in a situation where you need a firearm because NO discipline BREEDS this EXACT type of behavior... and also kids who go through schools on shooting sprees! HELLO! UNRULY TEENS!
WE NEVER SEEN THOSE TRAITS IN OUR YOUTH! Because we would have had our heads stuck in the ground like an ostrich! These kids think they can get away with ANYTHING today... because they DO! The LAWS ignorant people vote on breed this crap!
Sick fathers will sometimes go to the extreme of murdering entire families when he can no longer control them with fear. A gun has no place in disciplinary actions toward a child. And I grew up with guns.. This fool gives anti-gun activists ammunition and his guns should be removed by law enforcement imo
It's my belief that at fifteen, you are done being a child. It's time to grow up. All at once? No. Allowable to make mistakes? Yes. But it's time to learn that mistakes have consequences, especially whe you willfully repeat the mistakes.
What she did was the equivlant of complaining about her parents in class, at the top of her lungs. In this day, the online you (Facebook, etc) can be just as important in getting a job when you grow up as grades. She needs to learn that.
Don't forget, while waiting to move laundry, you can do homework or other chores
The problem with this is that you are assuming the dad is irresponsible in gun use.
When I was old enough to understand that guns are not toys, and stayed at my uncle's house for a summer, he made sure not only that I knew where the guns, ammo,and key to the other two were, but that if I even looked at the key, my life better be in danger and the phone lines cut. He hunted, he would shoot for recreation, but he made sure that his kids (and I) knew what a gun was. That they are not cool. They are not toys.
Which means if he had done something similar to me, or one of my older cousins, we'd know EXACTLY where we stood.
Gun thing sends out the wrong message. I would never consider showcasing use of a gun in a punishment in any way. Especially not to teenagers on Facebook.
But that aside - very cool! You can tell he was genuinely upset throughout, but he did a good job composing himself
But that aside - very cool! You can tell he was genuinely upset throughout, but he did a good job composing himself
Haha... you're pretending to be pro-gun, but you think someone should have their guns confiscated for plinking on their own property?
Nice try.
Will be very interesting what comes out of this
Seems like trigger happy daddy enjoys fame just as much
Good for him. He's finally learning that you need to make kids pay for their own luxuries or you get spoiled brats.
I had to save up for gadgets and gizmos. I bought my first computer at 13 spending about $1,800 after a couple years of saving. The last stuff my parents got me was a nice TV for a high school graduation present and a laptop when I transferred to a university from a JC.
As I got older and made more money I had to pay for more stuff on my own. By her age I had to buy my own clothes and any new furniture as well.
You also appreciate stuff more that you've worked hard for.
I had to save up for gadgets and gizmos. I bought my first computer at 13 spending about $1,800 after a couple years of saving. The last stuff my parents got me was a nice TV for a high school graduation present and a laptop when I transferred to a university from a JC.
As I got older and made more money I had to pay for more stuff on my own. By her age I had to buy my own clothes and any new furniture as well.
You also appreciate stuff more that you've worked hard for.
Wow that guy's an idiot.
Teenagers will always complain, it's a phase of life. Parents should try to deal with this and make sure they learn responsibility, it's a part if their role.
However, this guy did it in a stupid and immature way. Poor parenting.
Teenagers will always complain, it's a phase of life. Parents should try to deal with this and make sure they learn responsibility, it's a part if their role.
However, this guy did it in a stupid and immature way. Poor parenting.
Am I the only one here on the side of the kid?
Am I the only who would've gone to my child and said: "hey, I'm sorry you feel this way, I will not go into the house you've just cleaned with my dirty, muddy shoes - and I'll give you an allowance for all the chores you do, so you can save some money - or maybe ask the cleaning lady to help you out when you need time off"
I for one believe this girl. Why? Because at 14 I was babysitting 2 sisters, cooking and cleaning my house after high school so my parents could work and pay off the bills. And I'm a guy. Did I complain? Yes.
Did my father pull out a gun and shoot off something as personal and important as my laptop? No. The show of violence is in my view unacceptable.
Having said that - I live in NYC with some of the most disrespectful, rude and arrogant children I have ever met. They don't speak, or ask, they curse you for any reason. I'm afraid of taking the train with some of these kids, and pretty much try to stay clear of public transportation after 3 PM. In my view this is due to lack of parenting, and a few other factors - poverty, gangs, drugs, teenage behavior, bullying, etc. So in the extreme versions of too much parenting and too little.
I guess I'll take this guy.
Am I the only who would've gone to my child and said: "hey, I'm sorry you feel this way, I will not go into the house you've just cleaned with my dirty, muddy shoes - and I'll give you an allowance for all the chores you do, so you can save some money - or maybe ask the cleaning lady to help you out when you need time off"
I for one believe this girl. Why? Because at 14 I was babysitting 2 sisters, cooking and cleaning my house after high school so my parents could work and pay off the bills. And I'm a guy. Did I complain? Yes.
Did my father pull out a gun and shoot off something as personal and important as my laptop? No. The show of violence is in my view unacceptable.
Having said that - I live in NYC with some of the most disrespectful, rude and arrogant children I have ever met. They don't speak, or ask, they curse you for any reason. I'm afraid of taking the train with some of these kids, and pretty much try to stay clear of public transportation after 3 PM. In my view this is due to lack of parenting, and a few other factors - poverty, gangs, drugs, teenage behavior, bullying, etc. So in the extreme versions of too much parenting and too little.
I guess I'll take this guy.
Especially given that he said she'd just come off a '3 month grounding'.
Not a very patient man.