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FBI Unable to Retrieve Encrypted Data From 6,900 Devices Over the Last 11 Months
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I just thought of something...
In the 3 weeks since the Las Vegas shooting... the largest US mass shooting in recent times... I never heard once about the shooter's phone.
Surely the cops must have been interested in who he was contacting, his photos, perhaps his location history, etc.
Did they open his phone easily? Was there anything there?
The reason the San Bernardino shooter's phone was so interesting is because they couldn't easily open it.
In the 3 weeks since the Las Vegas shooting... the largest US mass shooting in recent times... I never heard once about the shooter's phone.
Surely the cops must have been interested in who he was contacting, his photos, perhaps his location history, etc.
Did they open his phone easily? Was there anything there?
The reason the San Bernardino shooter's phone was so interesting is because they couldn't easily open it.
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LOL i couldnt disagree with your point of view more.
But thats the beauty of being your own person, there's nothing wrong with having different opinions, its good infact
- How on earth did law enforcement solve these cases before smartphones existed?
- Once governments have backdoors into smartphones, savvy terrorists will switch to other forms of communication (e.g., chatrooms in online games, steganography, what-have-you), and law enforcement still won't have an easy way to intercept their comms, but we'll all have lost our privacy. Why is that important? Because
- The government has a rotten track record at keeping private data private. From Matt Blaze demonstrating how poor the Clipper Chip was to data breaches to outright gross negligence in the case of the OPM database, the government can simply not be trusted to do a competent job at keeping the backdoor to themselves, at which point, all of our financial information is once again for sale to the highest bidder.
As far as we know, Apple has a back door and gives it to the FBI which is required by a secret agreement with Apple to say they can't access the data.
A warrant can't change the laws of mathematics. They're free to search through your encrypted bits and try anything they'd like.
- How did they manage before smartphones?
- Cell tower pings aren't encrypted. If they have the suspect's phone number, they can track it via triangulation.
Exactly. That's your constitutional protection. Probable cause, passed on as sufficient for a judge. The FBI, in this case, has to establish the kind of investigation they are doing, and why it is totally reasonable for them to think the data might be on that phone. So, "I want to see if he has porn" isn't good enough, unless they're talking about, say, somebody already arrested for kiddie porn.
I can't think of any right that is absolute, even freedom of speech-- making a death threat, using speech, is illegal. Talking with members of a terrorist cell conspiring to bomb someplace is illegal. That's speech too.
Perfect example. You're investigating a murder as 6th and Main. Husband says, I was all the way uptown. So you check the cell tower around that time, and bing! There's his cellphone at 7th and Main right before the murder. So you ask him if he lets other people use his phone. No, never! Bingo. Doesn't prove anything yet, but he did lie about something important. The 5th Amendment doesn't mean they can't ask the question, and the 4th Amendment doesn't mean they'll never be able to search.
You’re forgetting my go-to strategy: lashing them to a chair under a searing white hot light and lumping them with a phone book.
It’s not a matter of being unable to solving but collecting all possible information.
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But the FBI's UCR isn't the answer to the question that was asked.
Technically you’re right, but in your heart you know that I am right
You could burn off your face. In the earlier days of fingerprinting, some crooks burned off their fingerprints.
Technically right... the best kind of right.Technically you’re right, but in your heart you know that I am right
But seriously, the stats were specifically from the CDC report and Orlandotech was asking for the source of the info.But don't you know? You can't trust the iPhone X and its FaceID because that's how the government is going to get all our facial scans, just like how TouchID was a ploy to get our fingerprints! /sarcasm.
Technically right... the best kind of right.
Oh I am not disputing the source, I think it simply describes a different topic, or at least it describes the issue in a slightly less efficient way due to the lack of classification which UCR has.
What are you worried about if you got nothing to hide? Google already know so much about you the government already know your identity. There should be a way for real criminals to be investigated thoroughly. I know the real concerns once this thing is opened it’s more for bad guys getting access. But from the government that doing their honest job I’m not worried about them. If they have suspicion about me and I know I’m clean, let them be to prove that I’m a law abiding citizen.
The implication of your argument is that if I have something that I don’t want to tell anyone it means that I might not be a law abiding citizen, thus giving them automatic probable cause needed for a warrant.
The government doesn’t have to see that you’re innocent, only that you’re guilty.
Well Craig Federighi is safe even with his eyes open! HO HO HO!
(couldn't resist that one.)
I'd love to see any citation for this. Something like this cannot be kept secret. And once it comes out, Apple would be hit by the mother of all lawsuits.
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Wrong question. Ask me if I would feel the same way if your spouse, your kid, or your kid's dad was abducted. Because it is the same problem, but I would not give an answer driven by emotion, but a rational answer. And rational answers count.
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Type "us gun deaths" into google. On the top of the results that I get it says "According to the CDC, there were 33,636 deaths due to firearms in 2013". Click on a few links and you find over 10,000 murders, over 20,000 suicides, and a few hundred "others" (accident, legitimately shot by police).
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