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Fear The Walking Dead (AMC TV- spoilers)
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Good call!!! I just looked up the original air date of TWD and it is saying October 31st, 2010. Very interesting so they are a few "years" maybe behind.........
So, let me put this out there and see what you all think. I'm finding it interesting that we are so close to patient zero yet the people in Fear seem to be more knowledgeable about what is going on as opposed to our veterans from TWD.
For example, everyone seems to know about using walker blood to blend in and move about freely. In this last episode it seemed as if the vacationing friends had a pact to take each other out as opposed to letting someone end up a zombie. In my opinion, it's way too early for them to know that everyone is infected and that he would turn if he didn't survive his bullet wound. So, that part kinda caught me off guard. The episode seemed to suggest they were "putting him out of his misery to keep him from turning". I guess the other possibility is that they simply killed him as opposed to leaving him behind, but that doesn't really make sense to me, even with the whole end of the world morality argument.
It just seems weird to me that folks so close to the beginning (Fear) would know stuff that it has taken other individuals (TWD) many years to figure out.
For example, everyone seems to know about using walker blood to blend in and move about freely. In this last episode it seemed as if the vacationing friends had a pact to take each other out as opposed to letting someone end up a zombie. In my opinion, it's way too early for them to know that everyone is infected and that he would turn if he didn't survive his bullet wound. So, that part kinda caught me off guard. The episode seemed to suggest they were "putting him out of his misery to keep him from turning". I guess the other possibility is that they simply killed him as opposed to leaving him behind, but that doesn't really make sense to me, even with the whole end of the world morality argument.
It just seems weird to me that folks so close to the beginning (Fear) would know stuff that it has taken other individuals (TWD) many years to figure out.
To add to that, there was the lady from the Internet airplane episodes and then left for dead on the raft on the TV FTWD who had knowledge of the impending disaster before it happened and IIRC she's still MIA and may return later in the series.
I didn't understand this either. Why not just leave Baby Jake and Travis? If anything, that was the total opposite of a mercy killing.
Patiently awaiying her return as well. Maybe she'll be in S7 of TWD as a part of The Kingdom after traversing the whole U.S.?!
No you are not alone on this, it is almost as if the writers of the show want to move the pace of those in the story along faster than they did with the TWD folks. They know the audience is smarter based on our experiences with the TWD so they don't want us to have to go through the hardships that we have already seen in the TWD. Hopefully this makes sense.
But it bothered me too. It is almost as if everyone in the show knows a whole heck of a lot about the dead, more so than our characters who have been traversing through the series for seven seasons now.
I understand exactly what you are saying and that thought did cross my mind. If that is indeed what the writers are doing then it sort of ticks me off. For me, a character story is about how the characters react to what is transpiring in the plot. Just because the audience is aware of something doesn't mean that they are less invested in how the characters will deal with that information when it is revealed.
I'm interested in seeing how someone responds when a walker keeps coming after being shot or severely injured. I want to see a repeat of the Rick and Sean situation where someone who is killed turns without being bitten or injured by a walker. How would one of our new characters respond to this revelation? Don't short change us as an audience by denying us the chance to see how those closer to patient zero deal with the hard truths associated with the new reality in which they are living.
It's possible because the viewers know the deal, the writers felt this would be repetitious, nor wanted to devote time to it. I can imagine that enough people have died in the story from natural or unnatural causes other than a zombie bite that it has become corporate knowledge among various groups that death results in reanimation.
Besides, they might be smarter out on the west coast
hahahaha this is true, we are dealing with folks from the south on the TWD....
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Yup, that is exactly what I am talking about!!!
Some of my thoughts after that Season 2 2-Hour Season Finale...
Seemed like an ok mix of filler material and content stretched into 120 minutes to satisfy viewers/to wrap up a lot of empty arcs/thin the cast.
-For what it's worth, can we trust Chris really died if no one in the group saw it? The way it was told somewhat still let the audience know Chris was at his own demise. Hard justice? It still felt somewhat ok knowing what Chris had done. But I guess even on Talking Dead with him being the surprise guest he really is dead. A necessary evil for story advancement they say.
-Travis...finally went Super Saiyan!
-Alicia unlocked her potential. Although, it was weird to have her ask Maddy what she was doing when raiding the pockets of the family killed. I thought they were setting that up for a disagreement/internal group conflict.
-Nick should have known to do more recon, but I guess since they were pressed for time, he had no choice. It looks as if the military have handed together as they didn't interrogate or anything, just fired at will...strangely enough not killing Nick or Luciana when standing over them with guns still drawn even though the ladder was already struck by bullet(s).
-HOW do the Medicare Marauders sneak into the Colonia, firing shots at zombies in close quarters and all make it through the school bus passage, yet when the bus is moved, they have more space to navigate those same zombies yet they are overrun?!
Seemed like an ok mix of filler material and content stretched into 120 minutes to satisfy viewers/to wrap up a lot of empty arcs/thin the cast.
-For what it's worth, can we trust Chris really died if no one in the group saw it? The way it was told somewhat still let the audience know Chris was at his own demise. Hard justice? It still felt somewhat ok knowing what Chris had done. But I guess even on Talking Dead with him being the surprise guest he really is dead. A necessary evil for story advancement they say.
-Travis...finally went Super Saiyan!
-Alicia unlocked her potential. Although, it was weird to have her ask Maddy what she was doing when raiding the pockets of the family killed. I thought they were setting that up for a disagreement/internal group conflict.
-Nick should have known to do more recon, but I guess since they were pressed for time, he had no choice. It looks as if the military have handed together as they didn't interrogate or anything, just fired at will...strangely enough not killing Nick or Luciana when standing over them with guns still drawn even though the ladder was already struck by bullet(s).
-HOW do the Medicare Marauders sneak into the Colonia, firing shots at zombies in close quarters and all make it through the school bus passage, yet when the bus is moved, they have more space to navigate those same zombies yet they are overrun?!
-For what it's worth, can we trust Chris really died if no one in the group saw it? The way it was told somewhat still let the audience know Chris was at his own demise. Hard justice? It still felt somewhat ok knowing what Chris had done. But I guess even on Talking Dead with him being the surprise guest he really is dead. A necessary evil for story advancement they say.
I thought Derek and Brandon said that they shot him after Travis started going apenuts when their story was not matching? Travis asked if they "pulled him out" or if "he went through the windshield"? Then it cut to where Chris was trying to crawl out with broken legs and Brandon shot him in the head.
Let's face it, these 2 individuals had no compunction against killing their childhood friend, much less a liability whom they have only known a few days.
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Oh I understand how it went down (based off of what we saw), I just felt as viewers we should have been granted the opportunity to see it happened as opposed to a flashback for shock value. Not to mention, for everything Chris did...his death was a little tame? Like we saw him crawling then boom. No last words or anything. But I guess it matches up with what he was experiencing or harm he was causing to others that were living.
I'm still one episode behind, but based on what happened, of course with the benefit of witnessing events the others at the hotel did not see, I'd say Travis did not deserve to be evicted from the hotel. I'll catch up with the season finale tomorrow and render total judgement.
He did essentially attack and hurt another person that was staying at the hotel (even if it was "in the heat of the moment").I'm still one episode behind, but based on what happened, of course with the benefit of witnessing events the others at the hotel did not see, I'd say Travis did not deserve to be evicted from the hotel. I'll catch up with the season finale tomorrow and render total judgement.
I'm still one episode behind, but based on what happened, of course with the benefit of witnessing events the others at the hotel did not see, I'd say Travis did not deserve to be evicted from the hotel. I'll catch up with the season finale tomorrow and render total judgement.
Rules are rules...even in the zombie apocalypse!
While I don't condone Travis's actions, maybe this kind of a blanket rule is not always best. The others in the hotel should have listened to Travis's side of the story? There must be a reason, two strangers are assaulted and killed out of the blue as it appeared to the others at the hotel.
If It remembering it right, he slammed the door on whoever that was trying to intervene, pushed him out of the room and locked the door or something like this. There are degrees of harm, I remember someone saying he, the injured person was doing ok. This is distinctly different than trying to kill someone such as what happened to Victor Strand although Travis is responsible for two "outsider" deaths, based on his son being dead, but things are not black and white. His son's choices are partially to blame, basically throwing in with a group whose known motto was a "kill the lame" standard. Is the mother Ilene, still locked up I wonder?
Travis' hotel body count was 3. The two knuckleheads, Brandon and Derek that killed Chris AND
What I didn't understand about that part is, why let someone question something like that, surely any outcome would end in a fit of grief rage. Still, justice well served for Chris, heck even Baby James.
basically Oscar as his head got smashed in the doorway trying to prevent Travis from hurting said knuckleheads. Or maybe it was actually the makeshift surgery that killed Oscar?
What I didn't understand about that part is, why let someone question something like that, surely any outcome would end in a fit of grief rage. Still, justice well served for Chris, heck even Baby James.
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That's the thing, what happened with the person that Travis "pushed out" is essentially the key part in it all (and the last episode of the season goes into more detail about that part of it).
I'll plan watching the season final episode today. I did not realize Oscar was hurt that bad, he's dead?
Finished up Season 2, thumbs up. I liked the flow and observe there are no happy endings in the post apocalyptic world.
I also have a beef with Hector and his aunt. Weren't they the ones who locked up that wedding party and have been trying to go after them before the arrival of Madison and Strand's party? Their actions really seem out of place as far as their character's backgrounds go.
Great point! As a recall the aunt said, she had to contain the infection and not self serving at all.
Finished up Season 2, thumbs up. I liked the flow and observe there are no happy endings in the post apocalyptic world.
That is one thing I liked also, no happy endings and they left us with a little bit of a cliff hanger with the crossing at the border incident.