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One thing that raises my concern is lack of a traditional EQ with these systems. I mean are we stuck with "rock, treble booster, acoustic, etc.?"

I am pretty sure the higher end models have multi-band eq's. As the site is down I can't verify. What I miss are the Premier units with higher voltage pre-output and Time Alignment.
 
Pioneer has some major iOS 8 compatibility issues. I have the 8000NEX, doubting it'll work. It seems when Apple updates their hardware and software, Pioneer does nothing to fix their current units and simply saves it for the next iteration.
 
PSA: technology evolves. Some old hardware can't be upgraded to use new software features. I'm still pissed at Jeep for making a new model with more horsepower and not upgrading mine. Waaaaa!

AppRadio 3 has a miserable resistive based technology touchscreen. It would be horrible.

WAT? It has a 7-inch capacitive touch screen.

There is a disconnect between car hardware and the expectation in today's electronics world. Would you be happy to buy a computer that next year couldn't/wouldn't be updated? That is where car electronics is right now
 
IDK about using Apples Maps yet. It still points me to wrong places. I switch to Google maps, and it shows how far off Apple Maps was.

i use it everyday for turn by turn directions using hands off siri ..... have yet to get lost,
 
the first day of fall was sept 23. a little over a week, big deal.

There original press release said EARLY SUMMER.

and on May 15th 2014 pioneer held a "carplay media event" in california. There they told all the media they invited that the carplay release was "a few weeks" away..... Naturally everyone reported that.

Pioneer has been really dishonest about this whole thing. The part that pisses me off the most is how they're running interference and giving out misinformation to make it look like they kept they're word all along. It's all fabricated.

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did anyone install the update for their 4000NEX???????

thanks

EDIT: nevermind. the directions say that for some reason for download specific to 4000NEX, that the install folder created is name 5000NEX for some reason.... nice....

IMPORTANT
 DO NOT perform any further steps of this firmware update if the model number is anything other than AVH-4000NEX.
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"Locate and decompress the downloaded file. The downloaded file will produce a folder called “AVIC5000NEX” when decompressed. "
 
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i use it everyday for turn by turn directions using hands off siri ..... have yet to get lost,

People hate apple maps because its the cool thing to do. I use it far more often than the nav built into my 8000nex and I also have NEVER had issue.
 
Way to screw this one up Pioneer. Charge more money for AppRadio 4 and put a smaller screen on it. Good job.

AppRadio had this going for it, 7" capcitative screen and now if I want the nicer screen I have to fork out $1400 for a unit that has tons of features I don't want or need. Ugh, pisses me off. Here is to hoping Alpine doesn't follow suite and just updates the ICS unit with better software/hardware. Until then I'll keep my AppRadio 2.
 
So I go to check out the models and there's a note saying most of the apps aren't compatible with iOS 8 - that's an Apple fail.
 
First thing that pops up in a potential buyer's head – what car models are supported by Pioneer, will it work in my car?

Anyone found any info on this?

Exactly. 15 years ago, I could install a pioneer head unit in almost any car. Now, they all have much fancier dashboards with touch screens. This is great for the custom car / low rider market.
 
Ridiculously overpriced just because it's using Apple software.

That is not far off from their Pioneer's normal head unit prices.

You want to talk about price gouging, look at the line item for the head unit that comes from the manufacturer. They charge double for those pieces of crap, and to make matters worse, they're making it more difficult to replace factory units for superior after-market ones like these from Pioneer.

The real thieves in this game are the are the auto makers.
 
WAT? It has a 7-inch capacitive touch screen.

There is a disconnect between car hardware and the expectation in today's electronics world. Would you be happy to buy a computer that next year couldn't/wouldn't be updated? That is where car electronics is right now

That's where many Android handsets are today.

Also, Microsoft doesn't give you free upgrades to the new version of Windows every couple years.
 
what's your authority on that? pioneer said in their orig announcement on FB that the appradio3 didn't have the hardware needed. why should I doubt them when they made it a firmware upgrade on other units they said did have the hardware? the AppRadio is their entry level unit so I don't doubt that they use the minimums for *today*.

Because the hardware in the AppRadio 3 is almost identical to that in a couple of the NEX models that received the update. Why are they making it out to be a hardware thing anyways? Do you know where the processing takes place? On the iPhone itself. The only thing your Pioneer stereo does is display whatever is sent to it. It's really just a screen and nothing else.

They just wanted to promote sales of the higher cost units instead. If they make the cheap $300 unit compatible, why would people bother buying the $900 one?
 
Eyes free functionality... except for when you are blindly poking around for the tiny virtual Siri button. If it hasn't got a hardware button on the steering wheel, it's not eyes free.
 
The way I see it, CarPlay as a whole isn't very elegant solution at all. Wired connection is such an annoyance when it comes to a transportation. You constantly plug/unplug your phone as you get in and out of the car.

The only real advantage you get by using CarPlay is the text because cars with bluetooth connection can already do call/music WITHOUT the hassle of wires and Apple Maps is still "meh" for many places. I mean, even text is not much of advantage for many people including myself because SMS is quickly being (if not already been replaced) replaced by IM apps but CarPlay obviously doesn't support any third party IMs. (And not everyone I need to contact has iPhone and use iMessage.)

Apple should have made a dedicated hardware themselves with wifi connectivity(with and without screen), basically a dedicated stream client for iPhone to cast CarPlay if both devices are within range. For tighter integration with, offer automakers the option of embedding required hardware into them so that drivers can take advantage of built in buttons and knobs.

If nothing else, they should at least make this thing wireless if they really want to push it forward.

Apple already said at launch that there would be both wired and wireless. for charging wired makes most sense
 
Eyes free functionality... except for when you are blindly poking around for the tiny virtual Siri button. If it hasn't got a hardware button on the steering wheel, it's not eyes free.

If your iPhone is plugged in you can just say 'Hey Siri' :)

Ive been using it a lot and it works great, no need to press anything.
 
Can I replace the factory Navigation System in my 2009 Santa Fe with one of these Pioneer units? The 2009 Hyundai nav systems were the last ones that did NOT have bluetooth capability, and that's what I need/want without having to buy a new SUV.

Check Crutchfield, they usually have the breakdown as to what can fit in each model car.
 
This thing is basically a touch-screen with Bluetooth and a little bit of software in it to bridge an iPhone's interface onto it.

It's not worth much more than $200-$300. It's not worth the price of the machine that powers it.
 
Links aren't working for me? Anyone else?

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This thing is basically a touch-screen with Bluetooth and a little bit of software in it to bridge an iPhone's interface onto it.

It's not worth much more than $200-$300. It's not worth the price of the machine that powers it.

Honestly, I think it's worth it to me.
 
So I go to check out the models and there's a note saying most of the apps aren't compatible with iOS 8 - that's an Apple fail.

I agree. Someone on the Verge gave you an explanation for that very same comment.
 
They've been playing a commercial up here in Canada for the Chevy Trax highlighting the carplay integration for their system. Not sure if it's included in their entry level model or if it's for the upgraded models. My own Trax has the handsfree system that utilizes Siri through BT. Works great even with the 8.0.2 update.
 
Links aren't working for me? Anyone else?

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Honestly, I think it's worth it to me.

I bought the cheapest NEX model, which doesn't have navigation built in. Having in dash navi now is going to be nice. Now i just need to figure out how to cache maps.......

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Just an FYI, the AppRadio 4 has a 13-band EQ.

please elaborate....
 
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