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I bought the cheapest NEX model, which doesn't have navigation built in. Having in dash navi now is going to be nice. Now i just need to figure out how to cache maps.......

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please elaborate....

do you have a link to that one? I keep trying but the links aren't working from the OP

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Just looked at their twitter page. It seems their website is down at the moment.
 
You can.

Take a look at the Waze app update that was released today. It says that it has support for Apple CarPlay

What's New in Version 3.9
Version 3.9 introduces Waze Places! Help make information on local places fresh & accurate for everyone.

- Easily add or edit places, business or residential
- Add driving related info like if a place has a parking lot or drive-thru
- Add arrival photos to help others find a place at any time
- Drive with Waze until you park: your parking location will be saved automatically. Plus, you’ll help Waze learn where to find parking & how much time to account
- Search autocomplete added worldwide
- Multiple bug fixes and optimizations


thats the most recent update it says.... not from today either...

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do you have a link to that one? I keep trying but the links aren't working from the OP

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Just looked at their twitter page. It seems their website is down at the moment.

these direct links still seem to work

NEX4000:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/S...Files/CarPlay/AVH-4000NEX_FW-Update_v1.06.zip

NEX5000 6000 7000
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/S...AVIC-5000,6000,7000NEX_UC_FW-Update_v1.06.zip
 
Yeah because that is what everyone needs, a full mac mini in the car.

You're right, it makes sense to pay more for so much less

"Always on the go, no time to stop at a coffee shop and write that mid-term paper? Write it while you drive!"

Because that is what I meant by having full OS versions of software available. Thank you for jumping to ridiculous to prove how little value your point has.

On top of that, how many people would even begin to know how to install that themselves?

Where could someone go to get information about installing a computer in a car? If only there were a resource available that might walk someone through it. Something like Instructables, Vimeo, YouTube....

Clearly Pioneer is offering an all in one solution that is basically Plug-n-Play and just about anyone can do in their garage/driveway.

At one HE11 of a premium (my point).

Even when it comes to price, you fail to mention the cost of of still buying a screen to put in your dash.

No I did not. You were in such a hurry with your witty response you did not read where I flatly stated the cost was included.

How would you manage the power draw on your battery?

Inverter and a backup battery (as one of many solutions), essentially creating your own UPS. I am an amateur radio operator and was in the Signal Corps in the Army and have set up mobile systems with a greater current draw that I am describing.

How about your intenet connection?

WiFi when at home, use a cellphone as a hotspot...

How long is it going to take to boot up your computer every time you get in your car? what about shutting it down?
You're right. You would have to install a couple dollar relay to cause shutdown. That makes this whole thing impossible...

Seriously your idea is more than flawed...
Seriously... not based on anything you have said.
 
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I switched from the tiny iPhone 4s to Galaxy S4 Active so I could better use it for navigation (larger screen). With the larger iPhones just get yourself a decent mount and forget about this crappy radio software. All you need the radio to do is Bluetooth.

I just switched to iPhone 6 from Galaxy S4. Those mounts still feel crappy for me. There's no right place to stick the thing, it's just in the way and that cord has to dangle and be in the way. Plus, this allows amuch larger screen. Integrated into the car is a much better experience.
 
I was really excited about Apple Carplay, as up until now most Car-phone integration has been pretty lacking.

I was bored of waiting for the new Pioneer Appradio 4 so I bought a £90 Sony MEX-N5000BT with Appremote I have tried it with a Brodit a dash mount for my Nexus 7 and also with my iphone5 I just updated to IOS 8.

The Sony works pretty well with the Nexus 7 via bluetooth - you can even connect the iphone5 and then dial the iphone5 using voice control triggered from the Nexus 7! Google maps running with Spotify works well - I can run any app and still have the Nav running in the background.

Connecting the iphone5 to the Sony for Appremote mode means I have to use the lightening cable, and it is a bit flakey.

I think the Sony is going back as the new Appradio looks much more integrated with the iphone - I may get stuffed over by having upgraded to IOS8 - it really is bizzare if Pioneer have launched Carplay a week after i)S8 is launched and it doesn't work very well with iOS8!

What this did get me thinking is all I really need in the car is NAV, an FM radio access tmy USB music and Spotify and maybe internet radio.

£349 is a lot of money for what is an FM radio and decent amplified with a wired touch screen interface for my iphone. What other apps do people really need in a car?

I may still buy one if I can get the 15% discount, but does it do much more than mounting an iphone 6L, or any iphone for that matter on the dash with a wired audio or BT audio connection?

ETA - The Sony and Pioneer do allow me to add and control a sub which is another advantage over the OEM headunit and I suppose goes some way towards justifying the £300!
 
This thing is basically a touch-screen with Bluetooth and a little bit of software in it to bridge an iPhone's interface onto it.

It's not worth much more than $200-$300. It's not worth the price of the machine that powers it.

Except it has to work in harsher environments than your phone does. Notice hot you can leave your radio in your car on a hot day and it still works?
 
Just loaded the firmware update for my Pioneer 4000NEX. My 2006 Honda Pilot just got a little cooler this morning.

After the upgrade I plugged in my iPhone 5s and it just worked (see attached image)

Didn't play with it too much (was at work) but made a call, played around with maps a bit and played some music. All worked as expected although it appears that playlists located in a folder do not work - the folder is displayed but when you tap on the folder nothing happens.

Someone mentioned in an earlier thread if you need to do anything to make the apps show up on CarPlay. The answer is no. I had updated Spotify prior to plugging in my phone and it showed up on my screen as a CarPlay app automatically.

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Just loaded the firmware update for my Pioneer 4000NEX. My 2006 Honda Pilot just got a little cooler this morning.

After the upgrade I plugged in my iPhone 5s and it just worked (see attached image)

Didn't play with it too much (was at work) but made a call, played around with maps a bit and played some music. All worked as expected although it appears that playlists located in a folder do not work - the folder is displayed but when you tap on the folder nothing happens.

Someone mentioned in an earlier thread if you need to do anything to make the apps show up on CarPlay. The answer is no. I had updated Spotify prior to plugging in my phone and it showed up on my screen as a CarPlay app automatically.

SCR

Very Cool - are you running iOS8?

Can you use the radio, play from the MP3s from the usb port while using carplay features such as NAV?
 
Just loaded the firmware update for my Pioneer 4000NEX. My 2006 Honda Pilot just got a little cooler this morning.

After the upgrade I plugged in my iPhone 5s and it just worked (see attached image)

Didn't play with it too much (was at work) but made a call, played around with maps a bit and played some music. All worked as expected although it appears that playlists located in a folder do not work - the folder is displayed but when you tap on the folder nothing happens.

Someone mentioned in an earlier thread if you need to do anything to make the apps show up on CarPlay. The answer is no. I had updated Spotify prior to plugging in my phone and it showed up on my screen as a CarPlay app automatically.

SCR

Wow, yours is installed way too low. It should be much higher for easier viewing.
 
Very Cool - are you running iOS8?

Can you use the radio, play from the MP3s from the usb port while using carplay features such as NAV?

Don't be silly, that's impossible.

*checks*

Holy crap yes you can. Use the native radio's features to listen to FM radio. Go into carplay mode. Still hear radio. Start navigating. Still hear radio. Radio gets attenuated. Siri speaks directions. Radio comes back up.

Back to Radio's native features. Pandora. iPhone prompts to launch Pandora. Allow. Go into CarPlay. Still hear Pandora. Go into Music App via carplay. Hit "Now Playing." See Pandora track. Can skip but not like or choose playlists.

Wow. Nice.
 
Wow, yours is installed way too low. It should be much higher for easier viewing.

I had two choices

  1. Replace the existing navigation screen which is up high on the dasboard
  2. Down low where the existing headunit was

I initially wanted it where the NAVI screen was (and still is albeit disconnected / broken) but in the end I am glad that I put it where I did. It is a much easier "arm reach" down low than it would have been to interact with the Pioneer if it were mounted up high on the dash. Won't argue that it might be easier to see up high but it isn't too bad where it is. And down low doesn't scream "steal me" as much as being up high would have been.

The installer had some other reasons why he thought mounting it lower would be better but I cannot remember what those are now.

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Very Cool - are you running iOS8?

Can you use the radio, play from the MP3s from the usb port while using carplay features such as NAV?

Yes...8.0.2

Have not played around with it enough but I did play a song while messing around with maps.

EDIT: And it looks like another posted answered this part of the question in more detail anyway.
 
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Except it has to work in harsher environments than your phone does. Notice hot you can leave your radio in your car on a hot day and it still works?

About any radio at $150 like mine will do exactly that. At this price it just doesn't have the touchscreen.

One day these CarPlay radios will sell at the price they're really worth.
 
It really depends on where you are. Where I'm at, Apple maps tends to be more accurate than Google maps. Google maps doesn't even have the correct street names in my neighborhood, where Apple maps even knows which houses have pools in their backyard.

I guess it really depends on that. In Hungary (but I think mostly in whole Europe) Apple Maps is a useless toy compared to Google Maps. While GMaps is full of POI (even the tiniest, least significant places) and it gives you the right search suggestions in a millisecond, Apple Maps often isn't even capable of finding the most basic things around you. They're not even in the same league... It might sound harsh, but if there weren't an iOS version of GMaps, I'd be forced to switch to Android.
 
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You're right, it makes sense to pay more for so much less

If you think it's paying more, you're being silly.

Show me how you can put a new Mac mini with a warranty (like the Pioneer will carry) plus a touchscreen, plus GPS receiver, plus power supply power converter, all for less than the $600 the AppRadio 4 will cost? :rolleyes:

Additionally, it took me 30 minutes to install my AppRadio 3. How long will it take to install that Mac mini and get everything up and running? I know what I make and unless you can install it in under a minute or two, it's going to be far less to buy a Pioneer stereo instead.

Usability is going to be another HUGE issue. Products like the AppRadio are stupid easy to use. Anyone can sit down and make it work in seconds. It'll take much more work to use a Mac mini and touch screen. Plus the products you want to use with it aren't meant for the tiny car screen. Pandora will be a headache to navigate, Apple Maps for OS X isn't compatible with GPS receivers so you'll have to go a paid route like RouteBuddy which costs another $65.... and it's still not made for a touchscreen.

And that's all assuming people want to do it themselves. But they don't. Only a small portion of consumers install their own stereos. Most have Best Buy or whoever install it for them. They don't want to deal with the headache of doing it themselves.
 
I am pretty sure the higher end models have multi-band eq's. As the site is down I can't verify. What I miss are the Premier units with higher voltage pre-output and Time Alignment.

I have the 4000 (lowest model) and it has a 16 band EQ that can be manually controlled.

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I just switched to iPhone 6 from Galaxy S4. Those mounts still feel crappy for me. There's no right place to stick the thing, it's just in the way and that cord has to dangle and be in the way. Plus, this allows amuch larger screen. Integrated into the car is a much better experience.

And use a tacky looking phone holder for the Navigation?
 
I can't wait to install this on my 8000NEX! I'd like to do it on my lunch soon, but that's only if I can get through to download it.
 
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